cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 the respect muslims have for other religions is a form of deceit and only applicable when islam is the minority. it is a shield against intolerance to allow islam to grow to majority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Teeny Tiny Cat Posted November 17, 2015 Administrators Share Posted November 17, 2015 the respect muslims have for other religions is a form of deceit and only applicable when islam is the minority. it is a shield against intolerance to allow islam to grow to majority Even if that were true (it's not), unless you were a muslim how would you possibly know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 i have researched the religion extensively and you should do the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Teeny Tiny Cat Posted November 17, 2015 Administrators Share Posted November 17, 2015 i have researched the religion extensively and you should do the same So it's a global conspiracy that muslims across the world have managed to keep a secret from every intelligence agency, govt, media, and average person... but you were smart enough to figure it out? There are surely better things you could devote this incredible intellect of yours to? Curing cancer, perhaps? Does studying islam allow you to read minds? To know what muslims are thinking but not saying? How is that, exactly? Do elaborate. I can only learn if you tell me how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 it not a global conspiracy, it is a religion, it i the teachings of muhammad it not a secret, they use western kindness and generosity against us, there is nothing we can do for fear of being labeled "racist" all im saying is that before you defend this ideology you should actually learn what it is and has been about since its inception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Teeny Tiny Cat Posted November 17, 2015 Administrators Share Posted November 17, 2015 Go on then, teach me. Where are these sources about deceit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUD Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Haven't read through the whole thread but I disagree with the sentiment of OP's post. The terrorism that we are seeing in the world today is caused by Islam and its followers, to suggest otherwise just seems like you're in denial. How many more times do they have to yell "allahu akbar" while causing some act of violence do you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperqube Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 what doctrine i follow has no bearing on the issue here Except you were calling the kettle black ... And yet you're unwilling so say if you're a pot or not? After asked mutliple times. Yeah, that's a clear case of admission by omission. research the fucking religion before coming to conclusions you dense fuck islam is not a religion of peace, islam is a religion of submission or destruction I can but repeat myself: According to Ram Puniyani, Islam does not condone violence but, like other religions, does believe in self-defence. According to Mark Juergensmeyer, Islam is ambiguous about violence. Like all religions, Islam occasionally allows for force while stressing that the main spiritual goal is one of nonviolence and peace. According to Ralph W. Hood, one should not mistake Islam as inherently violent. So, again what are your credentials? Calling people "dense f**ks" & "politically correct sh*ts" only hurts you. Your inability to have a conversation without pofanity sinks your cerdability. The terrorism that we are seeing in the world today is caused by Islam and its followers, to suggest otherwise just seems like you're in denial. And a quick google gives you things like An FBI study looking at terrorism committed on U.S. soil between 1980 and 2005 found that 94 percent of the terror attacks were committed by non-Muslims. Europol Report: All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 99.6% that Aren’t I can only conclude that you're taking a stab at western media? "The terrorism that we are seeing ..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 im not calling the kettle black you imbecile, im saying that the things you "know" and have heard about islam are false islam is not religion of peace no matter how many facebook posts or quotes attributed to muslims you see saying so if you would actually look into the religion rather than regurgitating deceit you would probably be on the side of your people rather than those who want your culture and people annihilated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperqube Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 im not calling the kettle black you imbecile, im saying that the things you "know" and have heard about islam are false ... because their doctorine allows them to deceive. ... and you want me to believe you? ... that you are not deceiving me? ... how can I, if I don't know your doctorine? If you follow a deceitfull one , ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN LOGIC, I shouldn't trust you ... islam is not religion of peace no matter how many facebook posts or quotes attributed to muslims you see saying so Except they are neither facebook posts or quotes attributed to muslims. They are quotes by non-muslim specialists. Again, what are your credentials? you imbecile,Except, you are the imbicile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 i dont want you to take my word for it that why i keep telling you to read the book and research the religion before blindly defending it these people are not on the side of liberty, and equality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iliad Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 why are you all saying "lol muslims wont intergrate into society" i did lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 why are you all saying "lol muslims wont intergrate into society" i did lol taqiya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperqube Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 i dont want you to take my word for it that why i keep telling you to read the book and research the religion before blindly defending itAnd thus, how then do you explain the people I've quoted? Non muslims who in fact DID the research and all ... and come to a VERY different conclusion that you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfasfas Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 hello http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 these people are spreading misinformation for whatever motive because they know politically left people wont actually do any research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperqube Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 these people are spreading misinformation for whatever motive because they know politically left people wont actually do any research yes ... I can understand how you don't need to review their research or how they came to that conclusion it's a conclusion that differes from yours, so there's only one possible explenations ... the specialists are lying, and you are right you imbecile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tats Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 What is a specialist ? Someone who is paid to write some biased studies ? I mean most of the so-called specialists we see in the media are in reality not. Just specialists in right-thinking / professional liars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 im telling you to fucking look at the religion yourself and come to a conclusion but youd rather grasp the word of some guy with unknown motives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperqube Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 What is a specialist ? Someone who is paid to write some biased studies ? Well, for instance, one of the people I quoted was Mark Juergensmeyer, an American scholar in religious studies and sociology and a writer best known for his studies of religious violence and global religion. He also writes on conflict resolution and on South Asian religion and society, and is a pioneer in the field of global studies. and Juergensmeyer is the 2003 recipient of the University of Louisville Grawemeyer Award for contributions to the study of religion, the 2004 recipient of the Silver Award of the Queen Sofia Center for the Study of Violence in Spain, and was elected president of the American Academy of Religion for 2008-09. And to your comment on writing biased studies, it's not like these people's work doesn't get reviewed. For instance wikipedia notes In The Ideology of Religious Studies, Timothy Fitzgerald criticizes Juergensmeyer's theoretical framework, while praising his fieldwork. Fitzgerald points out that the sources being interviewed do not always accept the "ethno-religious" label for themselves, and that the opposing side is arguably just as "ethno-religious"; he goes on to claim that Juergensmeyer never makes clear why he separates so many different conflicts into these two sides, asking, "What holds all these diverse 'other' ideologies, which have been basketed together as religions or religious traditional ideologies, together, apart from their being struggles of national self-determination against a dominant other?" You're correct that anyone can call themselves a specialist, but not everyone is an internationally award winning author & scholar on the subject. im telling you to fucking look at the religion yourself and come to a conclusion but youd rather grasp the word of some guy with unknown motives No. When you discredit everyone who's disagreeing with you, you're not saying "look at the religion", you're saying "look at everyone who agrees with me" ... now I know why you didn't want to share the doctorine you follow, because it's quite obvious what you're doing. You're trying to spread hatred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 im not saying look at everyone who agrees with me, im saying to read the things that are the basis of the religion but youd rather "look at everyone who agrees with you" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperqube Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 im not saying look at everyone who agrees with me, im saying to read the things that are the basis of the religion If that were the case, you wouldn't have claimed people like Mark Juergensmeyer are spreading misinformation. These people did EXACTLY what you claim I should do, but came to a different conclusion then you. What if I studied the Islam & read the Qu'ran and came to his conclusion? Would you claim I spread misinformation? If yes, you've proven my point If no, you claim informed oppinion trumps studies of people who do this for a living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 a hopeless sheep one day it will be too late to tell you i told you so if you still defend islam after studying it for yourself then you are an enemy of liberty, equality, and western culture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BankingBot Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Discrimination and generalisation of terrorism based on one's race, culture or religion is not the answer. We are all homo-sapiens , just because chimpanzees grew up in different region, climate with different food, genetically we are the same. Ideology is what differentiate us, and islam is an overall ideology, terrorism is a subset of it. Can't generalize all issues on a single religion or idea and expect to pass it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♠Derpeh♤ Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 im not calling the kettle black you imbecile, im saying that the things you "know" and have heard about islam are false islam is not religion of peace no matter how many facebook posts or quotes attributed to muslims you see saying so if you would actually look into the religion rather than regurgitating deceit you would probably be on the side of your people rather than those who want your culture and people annihilated To be honest if you're going to go that road and take everything literally then not any of the major religions around the world is "nice" the bible talks a about an insecure god who is okay with rape, teaches you to stone to death who lie, teaches you to invade other nations, the buying/selling of women...etc. The only exception to this is Buddhism but thats because they are fundamentally different since they teach about self enlightenment through being selfless and dont have a god. Fact is if people can differentiate between the westboro baptist church taking christianity to the extreme, call buddhists who starve themselves to death extreme, then why is it so hard to see that not all 1.6 billion muslims around the world want to kill you. If anything if 1.6 billion people are with the extremists, you have a much bigger problem. What you're doing it taking the actions of a few and trying to generalise it to all the 1.6 billion other muslims around the world who have been living peacefully for ages, who just want to take care of their family...etc. for example Indonesia has one of the largest muslim populations in the world does that mean Indonesia is trying to bomb and kill everyone who isnt muslim? Should everyone invade Indonesia to prevent terrorism? If you dont see wtf is wrong with that then I can't help you. EDIT: Also worth mentioning since you keep mentioning fundamentals you do realise the fundamental teachings of christianity, judaism and islamic religions are basically identical? They all stretch from the same god... Does that mean we should hunt every major religion down? Heck the USA invaded iraq flaiming to be from a christian mindset, even quoted the bloody bible when it was announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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