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https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198885422874/ This dude claims to own a fake gambling site DO NOT TRUST HIM. I already reported him but I'm just making a post to warn people. I was not affected by this scam but I know people who were.
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Teeny Tiny Cat replied to Teeny Tiny Cat's topic in Rules, Guides, and How Tos
I don't think anyone has a "do not trade" note on their ban reason if they are only banned for gambling with scammers... Scammer, scammer alt, and scammer fence sales, will remain ineligible for suggestions. It has changed moving forward, but people banned under the old rules will be allowed to appeal. -
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Serpentine replied to Teeny Tiny Cat's topic in Rules, Guides, and How Tos
Didnt see someone else ask so ill toss this one in With regard to the "gambling with scammers" no longer being bannable, will those who have that ban + a "do not trade" tag be eligible to have their sales used in a suggestion? Also, will the changes be retroactive or will it only be from this day forward? -
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Teeny Tiny Cat replied to Teeny Tiny Cat's topic in Rules, Guides, and How Tos
You can reopen your old appeal. Please PM a mod if you're having trouble. Yes, it means you need to check if the person is marked on Steamrep. Why do you need a mod/admin to know you've done that? The purpose of doing it is so you can avoid trading with marked scammers. -
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Creepy replied to Teeny Tiny Cat's topic in Rules, Guides, and How Tos
Apologies if you already explained this in the post, I'm in a hurry and just skimmed over it... What exactly do you mean when you say, "All trades above 15 keys in value on either side of the trade must be background checked." Does that mean we are just required to look at the other person's profile and SteamRep? Or is there something else we are supposed to do. Also, if it's just checking the other person's profile, is there a way that you, as mods/admins, can see if we did or not? Thanks! ~ Creepy -
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Phink replied to Teeny Tiny Cat's topic in Rules, Guides, and How Tos
i have been banned for about a year now so and my appeal was rejected. When/how can i make a new appeal? -
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Any animated artist you know? Im looking for someone to animate my TF2 avatar for my steam profile picture who is open and can do the job. Let me know here. Thanks.
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Apeiron replied to Teeny Tiny Cat's topic in Rules, Guides, and How Tos
I wonder that If there is a banned trader in a valuable item's history (It might be the record of a year ago.), but recent few traders are clean, in this case, Is that okay to trade with this item? -
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Thanks for everything guys. I really appreciate the helpful tips and information.
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Teeny Tiny Cat replied to Teeny Tiny Cat's topic in Rules, Guides, and How Tos
As discussed ad nauseum in the thread linked in OP, this was already happening routinely via private backpacks, non-obvious scammer alts, banking sites, and cashout sites. Our rules were doing nothing to stop it. -
Eerie Orbiting Fire is way better than Cauldron Bubbles.
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Alex Mas replied to Teeny Tiny Cat's topic in Rules, Guides, and How Tos
Before this update creating of new acc didn't guarantee a scammer selling of his items as buyers and their bots didn't accept trade offer from scammer alts because of the threat of banning. Those who accepted were banned. Now you let scammers easily sell everything they want at full price and to any buyer. WIth this update you ALLOWED trading with scammers in veiling form. -
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HarryG replied to Teeny Tiny Cat's topic in Rules, Guides, and How Tos
Who knows, it's very unclear. Besides, my point was more that by gambling with a scammer, you've either given a scammer an item without anyone getting banned that they otherwise would be, or getting a scammer's item you otherwise wouldn't allowed to get without a ban. Which I think is dumb and a loophole. -
Scammers don't get value out of their items if they lose them 😄 Though I wonder if this rule applies to gambling with backpack.tf scammers or steamrep marked scammers
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Teeny Tiny Cat replied to Teeny Tiny Cat's topic in Rules, Guides, and How Tos
There were never any objective criteria in any of the rule changes, and numerous attempts to refine it and keep it useful have failed. It's subjective by nature, if you set specific boundaries then scammers will just make accounts that don't fit them. There was no purpose in keeping the rule, really, and the community was broadly in favour of removing it. The rule itself never had much thought put into it, and it never really made sense. You don't have any idea who you're gambling with on most sites, so it was effectively just us taking a moral stance on gambling more than anything else, since the only way to avoid gambling scammers was to not gamble. The rules are meant to have a practical purpose, and that one didn't really. It's on Valve to crack down on gambling sites or those sites to stop allowing scammers to use them. It's a problem that's not on us to fix. I didn't put an explanation just cause I didn't really think it needed one. The addition of the rule was never really explained and it's not one people have brought up or seemed to care about much at all in the discussion threads. We won't ban for the odd trade with site-banned users, but we will ban if we see a pattern of repeatedly trading scammers, scammer alts, or scammer fences, site banned or marked. It's all stated clearly in the OP. -
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🍀Swazzy🍀 replied to Teeny Tiny Cat's topic in Rules, Guides, and How Tos
Site-banned users? So if a user is banned solely on backpack.tf but not anywhere else then they are clean to trade with freely? -
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HarryG replied to Teeny Tiny Cat's topic in Rules, Guides, and How Tos
Eh, I don't know if "the community finding the criteria too subjective" is a really good reason.... I can think of ways you could set objective criteria like is done in some of these other rule changes that would streamline this one more. And besides, if it "hinders bot trading", why should the rule change just because of the bots? Just stop using a bot, why should you be able to trade with what the staff recognize as obvious alts just because you use a bot? Then why doesn't everyone just make a bot and we can all trade with scammers, hooray! What the hell is this one? I would love to hear some rationale behind this (as it is the only change, seemingly purposefully, without an explanation). So I can't trade with a marked scammer, but I can wager his scammed items against my own? Please tell me how that makes a lick of sense; is this just gonna be sweetstakes.tf all over again? What a terrible and random change. -
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Teeny Tiny Cat replied to Teeny Tiny Cat's topic in Rules, Guides, and How Tos
I have no idea how you'd prove that in a trade report, but no that's not really gambling, I'd consider that just a facade to hide a trade. You're making the deal either way, gambling on a couple keys of it doesn't mean anything. -
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LaughingLollipop replied to Teeny Tiny Cat's topic in Rules, Guides, and How Tos
Inquiry about the gambling clause, looking for clarity on what 'gambling' is defined as is there an odds/equivalent valuation requirement? User A and B decide to have some 'gambling' fun User A is a scammer that has Hat Alpha User B is a normal person that has 50 Keys Example 1 Random 1-1000000 rolled If 1, User A gets a key If 2-1000000, User B gets Hat Alpha Random 1-1000000 rolled If 1, User A gets a key If 2-1000000. User A 40 keys Example 2 Random 1-100 rolled If 1-50, User A gets 30 keys for Hat Alpha If 51-100, User A gets 33 keys for Hat Alpha I've seen crabs that are fairly in line with that wager, more or less people just settling on a final price, is that legal? -
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Teeny Tiny Cat replied to Teeny Tiny Cat's topic in Rules, Guides, and How Tos
We'll make a judgment about the value of the unpriced item. -
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Diamond jozu replied to Teeny Tiny Cat's topic in Rules, Guides, and How Tos
what about when im trading a 14 key item(on my side) with a scammer who has an unpriced item? -
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Teeny Tiny Cat replied to Teeny Tiny Cat's topic in Rules, Guides, and How Tos
They already do. Rules have to serve practical purposes, no point applying them just for the sake of symbolism.
