What makes Donald Trump seem like he would be right for the presidency?

[funkle]

'Cause Reddit, of course. 

Reddit users all have their heads up Bernie's ass. I wouldnt use them as a legit source lol.

 

 

Did you hear about the former Minnesota governor who said he would run if Sanders lost? 

I haven't. But I know another Entrepreneur (Roque De La Fuente) has entered the Democratic Party as of today. He could make a run maybe.

[The One]

Reddit users all have their heads up Bernie's ass. I wouldnt use them as a legit source lol.

 

Except I wasn't.

[Twins_Mercury]

I saw the results of a poll on tv saying that if Hillary were to run against Trump she would win by like 8 to 10 percent but if she were up against Cruz or Rubio it could go either way.

[funkle]

Polls are really just people's predictions. Not everyone votes on every poll and at the end of the day anything could happen. 

[Hyperqube]

Why don't we all just calm down and wait for this day to end and make judgement after today's results.

Well, I don't see anything surprizing (supposing a margin or error of 5% as not all polls are counted yet):

• on republican side, Trump is clearly crushing the others (alaska unknown yet)
  • Trump 5.5: 4 clear wins, 3 ties (1 with each other of the others))
  • Cruz 2.5: 2 clear wins, 1 tie
  • Rubio 1.5: 1 clear win, 1 tie
  • Kavendish 0.5: 1 tie
  It seems they'll need a VERY early chrismass miracle if any of those want to beat Trump

   

• on democratic side, Clinton is still in the lead over Sanders
  • Clinton 6.5: 6 clear wins, 1 tie
  • Sanders 4.5: 4 clear wins, 1 tie
  6.5 vs 4.5 is (only) a slight improvement for Bernie (as it was 2.5 vs 1.5; iowa being the obvious tie).

  Sanders needs to get his campaign into gear if he wants to win. It doesn't seem impossible yet (like on the republican side), but it ain't gonna be easy

[Utsoob]

Well, I don't see anything surprizing (supposing a margin or error of 5% as not all polls are counted yet):

• on republican side, Trump is clearly crushing the others (alaska unknown yet)
  • Trump 5.5: 4 clear wins, 3 ties (1 with each other of the others))
  • Cruz 2.5: 2 clear wins, 1 tie
  • Rubio 1.5: 1 clear win, 1 tie
  • Kavendish 0.5: 1 tie
  It seems they'll need a VERY early chrismass miracle if any of those want to beat Trump

   

• on democratic side, Clinton is still in the lead over Sanders
  • Clinton 6.5: 6 clear wins, 1 tie
  • Sanders 4.5: 4 clear wins, 1 tie
  6.5 vs 4.5 is (only) a slight improvement for Bernie (as it was 2.5 vs 1.5; iowa being the obvious tie).

  Sanders needs to get his campaign into gear if he wants to win. It doesn't seem impossible yet (like on the republican side), but it ain't gonna be easy

 

I'm sorry. I thought this was a Donald Trump thread. Not the Sanders thread.

 

Anyway,  THE DONALD STOMPS OUT THE COMPETITION YET AGAIN. Big wins in Super Tuesday, and a Impressive showing in Texas (Cruz's home state), we are on the cusp of getting a Trump nomination.

[Hyperqube]

I'm sorry. I thought this was a Donald Trump thread. Not the Sanders thread.

You are excused.

 

Technically, this is a "can an someone give an adult explenation why people vote for trump" thread, not a "lets blow Donald's horn" thread

[Water Salesman]

Also hey I'm back. Hyperqube, it takes no major balls to report a comment, that's all that I am going to say.

just wanted to say i'm the one who reported you not hyperqube

[Utsoob]

just wanted to say i'm the one who reported you not hyperqube

y u do this fam

 

Also Trupdate: Cruz and Trump split the Alaska vote. Trump still leads though.

[Cave]

Hot damn, I didn't expect this topic to escalate to 6 pages about 1 guy.

Anyways, this video is really intresting and is a good theory about his campaign.

[Mrs TS]

In other countries, comedians, clowns, sports figures, and even porn stars have been elected to office. Why should the US be any different with this clown.

[The Penguins]

Even if Trump does get elected, he won't get anything done. His own party opposes him, who conveniently are dominant in Congress 

[Twins_Mercury]

In other countries, comedians, clowns, sports figures, and even porn stars have been elected to office. Why should the US be any different with this clown.

Arnold Schwarzenegger does come to mind.

 

 

Even if Trump does get elected, he won't get anything done. His own party opposes him, who conveniently are dominant in Congress 

Not only does the Replublican establishment not like him but neither do the Democrats so it's lose/lose. If he were to win I think it might be a deader presidency than Obama at best.

[The One]

Something I've seen repeatedly is the comment of how stupid Trump is and people don't understand how such a "dumb" and crazy fanatic has gotten so many votes.

 

Trump is not dumb. He is incredibly smart (intellectually, and more so, emotionally). Nobody makes billions of dollars without smart and rational decisions. 

 

In fact, Trump finished his undergrad at Wharton. Can any of you get into the Ivy Leagues?

 

What fascinates me is his style of expression. It's pure and utter genius and takes years of experience to acquire a skill like this. In spite of the presidential race, I feel this is something I can learn to improve my own persuasiveness. 

 

 

I certainly don't appreciate his use of fear and isolation and I certainly think many things he says are bullshit. But he has certainly caught my attention to look deeper into him. There is a reason to why this thread has more than twice the popularity of the Bernie Sanders one. 

[Water Salesman]

 

There is a reason to why this thread has more than twice the popularity of the Bernie Sanders one. 

It's because Trump's policies are far more controversial than Sanders'

[funkle]

It's because Trump's policies are far more controversial than Sanders'

hmmmmmm

[GhostTheJarhead]

I don't see him as ruthless, because he's not attacking those who could come after him and his family, on a personal scale. Truly speaking, Bernie sanders is our best hope. Hilary Clinton showed us in the 90's how easy it is for her to be so clueless to obvious shit, which is why I wouldn't put my vote for her. Mark Rubio is trying to put immigration laws on, when some of his own family members came as illegals at a point in time. Ted Cruz has no legitimate argument brought to the table. Bernie Sander's political outlook is a little daunting, but he's truly a progressive president, which is what we need currently. 

 

If you're smart enough, you'll understand the minute he says some bad shit about the Russian people, they will go after him, and truly. Just look at their foreign policy with Ukraine. Absolutely disobeyed any boundary laws given to them.  

[Hyperqube]

In fact, Trump finished his undergrad at Wharton. Can any of you get into the Ivy Leagues?

Does a having a Masters at Ghent University count?

 

Trump is not dumb. He is incredibly smart (intellectually, and more so, emotionally). Nobody makes billions of dollars without smart and rational decisions.

You do realise that most of Donald's wealth comes from his inheritance & government protection, right?

 

That's not to say that he's stupid or anything - but he's absolutely not the paragon self made man.

[The One]

Does a having a Masters at Ghent University count?

 

(for undergrad) University of Toronto was decent challenge for most of my peers. Depends on the field though, but most people got in with moderate amount of effort. However, I know people who sleeps for 4-5 hours per night, got 2300-2350+ on their SATs, got 5s on almost all the AP exams, held head extra-curricular positions at top organizations, had averages of 95%+ and still received rejections from the Ivy Leagues (+ Stanford and MIT). 

 

 

You do realise that most of Donald's wealth comes from his inheritance & government protection, right?

 

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the sentiment towards wealth and corporation at its finest. Sounds like making billions of dollars is just so damn easy and growing a corporation just requires an inheritance and government protection. 

 

With a quick glance, the highest figure I found was $200 million (Google, although it's between 40m - 200m), that Trump inherited. He is worth ~$4.5 billion today (Forbes). The difference between $200 million and $4.5 billion is $4300 million.

[Utsoob]

The One for based user 2k16

[Twins_Mercury]

You can still say that his wealth in a sense stems from the unusual opportunities he's been given. Everyone's heard the fabled story of the "small loan of a million dollars". If you compare that to your average middle class adult who saves some money in the bank every now and then to eventually invest in the market it's just nowhere close. It doesn't matter how smart you are it's still immensely easier to get to billions of dollars from one million than from say $5000. He may not have inherited billions of dollars but he sure as hell didn't start from the bottom.

[Hyperqube]

(for undergrad) University of Toronto was decent challenge for most of my peers. Depends on the field though, but most people got in with moderate amount of effort. However, I know people who sleeps for 4-5 hours per night, got 2300-2350+ on their SATs, got 5s on almost all the AP exams, held head extra-curricular positions at top organizations, had averages of 95%+ and still received rejections from the Ivy Leagues (+ Stanford and MIT).

that's sick. even in UNI, I went out during finals (except on nights were the next day was the exam)

 

But either way - I'm more interested in how he did IN university then wether or not he got in.

(Having a father who was a Warton graduate and possibly make a nice donation, it's possible had it easier to get into Warthon then your peers)

 

Sounds like making billions of dollars is just so damn easy

 

The difference between $200 million and $4.5 billion is $4300 million.

4300 million ... that sounds a lot, right? And to us "mortals" that is a lot, but ...

 

The difference between $200 million and $4.5 billion is less then 60 years at 10% (which is the average of the stock market, not counting the ~3% inflation)

 

The difference between $200 million and $4.5 billion is ~17 years at 20% (as one might assume someone who knows how to invest money, wouldn't select 'random' investments, but 'good' investments)

It's easy to be blinded by big numbers, but as it stands, how countra-intuitive it sounds, it actually IS easy to make billions of dollars: if you have enough capital, and time.

[♠Derpeh♤]

It's easy to be blinded by big numbers, but as it stands, how countra-intuitive it sounds, it actually IS easy to make billions of dollars: if you have enough capital, and time.

 

 

Adding on to this there was an experiment a while back which was essentially a simulation of the stock market where it randomly bought and sold shares, at a certain starting amount the chance of "losing" money overall became negligible. That's partially due to the foundations of nearly every economy where the rich will get richer as a whole which in inadvertently makes you richer since you can "piggy back" off everyone.

 

Yes, it is "easy" to make big money when you have a large amount of capital however you shouldnt downplay that he has earned billions and has the ability to sustain that growth overall, that takes diligence, effort nor to mention leadership to be able to organise the whole company. Just because he started off with money doesnt mean you can ignore all his accomplishments :l

[Hyperqube]

Yes, it is "easy" to make big money when you have a large amount of capital however you shouldnt downplay that he has earned billions and has the ability to sustain that growth overall

wait ...

 

yes it's easy, but don't downplay it

 

... OK, I guess? I'm not gonna downplay Trump did something easy?

[OverduePixels]

Even if Trump wins, he won't get anything done not only his goals are unrealistic, his own party does not like him at all. He just ended up going through the loop and ended up being a candidate.

 

If people are expecting him to get anything done (i.e Trump supporters), they are most definitely living in a fantasy world. His goals contains war crime and unrealistic which can never be done, a good example would be... Getting Mexico to build a stronger wall around the U.S border and make them pay for all of it.