Heated Bread Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Also, Middlemen are completely USELESS from a seller's perspective in a Paypal Trade simply because the Buyer can Still chargeback after they get the stuff from the Middleman. Anybody who thinks a middleman is actually preventing them from getting scammed is deluding themselves. A middleman is not a 100% guarantee, of course. But there are benefits to using a good middleman, because they can actually be helpful in the sense that they have the experience to know what to look for when profiling a person and what signs to look for during a transaction, and will at least be able to offer advice during the trade and in the event that something does go awry, and they know how to properly document things and can push through a scammer tag. So you're wrong. A middleman is not completely useless. And of course there are situations where a middleman is useful which have absolutely nothing to do with paypal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Blaze Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Yeah, there's certainly been extremely intelligent people that have done some terrible things. You're right about that. But I would argue that these individuals lacked emotional inteligence and empathy, two forms we often sweep aside in favour of inteligence that's easier to measure (math, logic, etc.). As for Google, I'm still not impressed. I don't even think he had these intentions all along. He may say that he did, but I doubt that these were his intentions from day 1. All of us who've been around for a while could do the same thing (i.e. start cash scamming people) and then go "hahah losers, this was my plan all along". True. There is intelligence in emotional understanding and empathy, I'm not going to deny that. What you alluded to in your original post was that all intelligent people have those emotional connections. I will agree with your viewpoint on the second part. If this was not planned from the start, it would empower and enrich the effect of the scam to go out with a grandiose display and mockery saying that the whole plan was deep-seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkiePie Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 The smart people always win. Still got a good 100 left on my friends list, this isn't over yet. Here's my alt - http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198107915875 Think you might know why I did this Methinks the unboxing of that fetti coupe set him off. Google finding out that he wasted all those keys for coupe Victims getting rekt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkiePie Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkiePie Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 hehehhehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia Gillard the Honest Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21733370 Lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators OverduePixels Posted August 18, 2014 Administrators Share Posted August 18, 2014 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21733370 Lucky. Not just lucky....One hell of a lucky person was about to get scammed out of $1200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utsoob Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 *snipping of some old scams* I know that it's easy to ask this in hindsight, but.... Why am I not surprised by Google? LET IT GO, LET IT GOOOOOOOO THAT SHIT IS TOO DAMN OOOOOOOLD But srsly It was not really surprising to me. I never knew/traded with him but hell he had all the tell-tale signs of scamming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zefrom Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Wow just talked to him, he helped me. Lost all hopes in him, so sad and pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iris★ Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I don't mind scamming on tf2 since its just a video game but paypal scamming is akin to fraud imo. A lot of people work hard for their money. It's a bit of a dick move to not care and steal actual dollars from peoples paypals. People who do credit card fraud and straight up social engineering to attain access to credit cards are the worst tho. I seriously hope you are not even considering doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fee Too Pee Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 guys guys, i hope karma works irl for him. who knows? hit by a truck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaveboard SKREECH))) Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Is that a pun? Am I missing something? I feel like I'm missing something. Does it have to do with iggy azalea? "Fancy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooden House Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 "Fancy" no not the song, I know the song i was tlaking about the koopa. Apparently his name is Iggy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaveboard SKREECH))) Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 no not the song, I know the song i was tlaking about the koopa. Apparently his name is Iggy. Oh never knew the monsters names though Ive payed most Mario's before. Cept Bowser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaveboard SKREECH))) Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 guys guys, i hope karma works irl for him. who knows? hit by a truck? Phished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ersin Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I don't mind scamming on tf2 since its just a video game but paypal scamming is akin to fraud imo. A lot of people work hard for their money. It's a bit of a dick move to not care and steal actual dollars from peoples paypals. People who do credit card fraud and straight up social engineering to attain access to credit cards are the worst tho. I seriously hope you are not even considering doing that. He didn't get any cash, only Unusuals and high tier hats. From what I know atleast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobsplosion Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 He didn't get any cash, only Unusuals and high tier hats. From what I know atleast Quicksold for cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
«Gғм» KNTRL! Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I knew it. No kidding,was so evident. http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/11919-scammer-needs-a-life-part-2/&do=findComment&comment=134833 <--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators OverduePixels Posted August 18, 2014 Administrators Share Posted August 18, 2014 I knew it. No kidding,was so evident. http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/11919-scammer-needs-a-life-part-2/&do=findComment&comment=134833 <--- lol you actually did called it. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
«Gғм» KNTRL! Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 lol you actually did called it. xD Seriously,I have no idea how people didn't see it. Out of nowhere it started buying crappy stuff overpaying. Standard chargeback once he got the max in those 60 days. He had few hours,few games,few hours,few trades,few everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators OverduePixels Posted August 18, 2014 Administrators Share Posted August 18, 2014 Seriously,I have no idea how people didn't see it. Out of nowhere it started buying crappy stuff overpaying. Standard chargeback once he got the max in those 60 days. He had few hours,few games,few hours,few trades,few everything. Like I said on my post... Everyone overlooked those things and just saw the "paypal" trusts stuff. Nobody bothered to check anything regarding to his game hours, trades, level and so on and so on. He had big flaws but everyone who did paypal trade with him overlooked those. http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/16829-google-is-now-a-scammer/?p=186864 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
«Gғм» KNTRL! Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 This type of horse shit is what pisses me off the most in life...people with high credibility that either are able to get away with what they do or, in this case, use their credibility to dish out damage in as little as time possible. With this happening, now who the hell can we trust without middlemen? This whole act pretty much punched credible traders' reputation in the face, because how the hell do we know that they won't do it too? Diarrhea donkeys like this just further crush faith in humanity. Pretty soon we're going to need trade codes, finger prints, a blood test, and a signature from the secretary of the department of homeland security. lol wat? He wasn't a reputable trader. Never been one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Seriously,I have no idea how people didn't see it. Out of nowhere it started buying crappy stuff overpaying. Standard chargeback once he got the max in those 60 days. He had few hours,few games,few hours,few trades,few everything. Well, not everyone who overpays and starts from nowhere turns out to be a scammer --> Neymar. lol wat? He wasn't a reputable trader. Never been one. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slocumruls Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 A middleman is not a 100% guarantee, of course. But there are benefits to using a good middleman, because they can actually be helpful in the sense that they have the experience to know what to look for when profiling a person and what signs to look for during a transaction, and will at least be able to offer advice during the trade and in the event that something does go awry, and they know how to properly document things and can push through a scammer tag. So you're wrong. A middleman is not completely useless. And of course there are situations where a middleman is useful which have absolutely nothing to do with paypal. I don't know know about you but the whole point of getting a middleman is to prevent chargebacks rather than help you report people when it happens. I have sold over 2000$ worth of keys/buds and never been chargeback scammed. I have gone first in EVERY instance except with Bobsplosion since I do not maintain nor wish to maintain a rep thread. All a middleman does for the seller in a paypal transaction is provide a false sense of security. Also, I consider seller rep almost completely meaningless. The buyer is the one that must be trusted. The seller either delivers or not but if not the buyer can just chargeback the payment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaPlaya2013 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 big deal, he's a scammer let's talk about something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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