Gent♥ Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 This isn't every other country, this is america. Exactly. You run in your own little devoid-of-logic world. Whoever agreed you were a superpower was insane. Something that has precedence for working (in this case, whole f*ckin lot of precedence) tends to work. I don't think anybody is saying gun control would magically solve all your problems. But you can't say it wouldn't help at all, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminal Inhalation Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 But you see, there would be much less school shootings. Hardly at all + it would bring a bigger threat as crime would go up if gun control goes into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KERPKEK Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Regulate guns the way cars are regulated. Take a mental health test, pass an exam to get your license, annual renewals & inspections, Liability insurance, etc. Also, I posted this before some time ago in a different gun control thread, that Australia had ONE shooting like this, put similar regulations in place afterwards, and never had it happen again. But the OP of that thread kinda resorted to GRRRR U DERN LIBERALS TRYIN TA TAKE MUH GUNS and ragequitted. :I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminal Inhalation Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Exactly. You run in your own little devoid-of-logic world. Whoever agreed you were a superpower was insane. Something that has precedence for working (in this case, whole f*ckin lot of precedence) tends to work. I don't think anybody is saying gun control would magically solve all your problems. But you can't deny it wouldn't help at all, either. Cancel all gun sales Criminal organizations take advantage of the situation and become more 'encouraged' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gent♥ Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 crime would go up if gun control goes into place. pffffthahaha Do go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminal Inhalation Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 pffffthahaha Do go on. Yes, and do tell how laws against illegal drugs has worked out as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gent♥ Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Yes, and do tell how laws against illegal drugs has worked out as well. Um, illegal drugs are illegal? So, there's an inherent risk of owning them. Which discourages owning them. You're letting that logic sparkle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminal Inhalation Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Um, illegal drugs are illegal? So, there's an inherent risk of owning them. Which discourages owning them. You're letting that logic sparkle. Let me clarify then, how are laws that make illegal drugs illegal keep them away? Answer: They don't. Marijuana, Crystal Meth, Angel Dust, Cocaine, etc. All are obtainable rather easily despite the laws against them to the point where even middle school children are able to get their hands on the stuff. There are legal drugs such as prescriptions, medicinal marijuana, ETC, hence why I said illegal drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Пол игрока trade karambite Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 Hardly at all + it would bring a bigger threat as crime would go up if gun control goes into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Lowell Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I know this will probably do nothing, but fucking background checks. they are a thing we need so badly. I just wish politicians wouldn't use the direct aftermath of something like this to prove their point. It's just sickening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminal Inhalation Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Sounds pretty accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminal Inhalation Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I know this will probably do nothing, but fucking background checks. they are a thing we need so badly. I just wish politicians wouldn't use the direct aftermath of something like this to prove their point. It's just sickening They only blame guns because it's easier. They don't want to go through the trouble of finding the people who are really to blame, so they do the easiest thing they can and blame guns. Well there are more murders by cars than there are murders by guns, should then blame the cars and make cars illegal as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gent♥ Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Let me clarify then, how are laws that make illegal drugs illegal keep them away? Answer: They don't. Marijuana, Crystal Meth, Angel Dust, Cocaine, etc. All are obtainable rather easily despite the laws against them to the point where even middle school children are able to get their hands on the stuff. There are legal drugs such as prescriptions, medicinal marijuana, ETC, hence why I said illegal drugs. They keep them away more than they would if you had 'Drug stores' (...alright, bad choice of words, but you know what I mean), where you could wonder in, pick up some crystal meth off a shelf, and then waltz out with very little background checks. And notably, owner of said drug store wouldn't get jailtime for it if he got caught. Faaairly big discrepancies in your argument, here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Пол игрока trade karambite Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 Sounds pretty accurate. Against you lel, the big outliers aren't really that "developed" countries I might say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminal Inhalation Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 They keep them away more than they would if you had 'Drug stores' (...alright, bad choice of words, but you know what I mean), where you could wonder in, pick up some crystal meth off a shelf, and then waltz out with very little background checks. And notably, owner of said drug store wouldn't get jailtime for it if he got caught. Faaairly big discrepancies in your argument, here. More reports of drugs than there are gun reports. If you TRULY wanted to lower gun abuse, you need to track down the people who use it incorrectly. Do heavy background checks on everybody with licenses as well as their family and friends backgrounds to ensure lower chances of homicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminal Inhalation Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Against you lel, the big outliers aren't really that "developed" countries I might say. Mexico with the highest rate seems accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gent♥ Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 They only blame guns because it's easier. They don't want to go through the trouble of finding the people who are really to blame, so they do the easiest thing they can and blame guns. Well there are more murders by cars than there are murders by guns, should then blame the cars and make cars illegal as well? Difference being cars are not designed to kill. there's more -deaths- by cars than guns, not more -murders-. Important terminology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gent♥ Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 More reports of drugs than there are gun reports. Cheetahs are unable to roar. I can respond with irrelevant facts too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminal Inhalation Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Cheetahs are unable to roar. I can respond with irrelevant facts too. Re-read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. McKay Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I'm talking about citizens, not criminals. If you just let anyone waltz up into a gun store, wait 3 days and get a gun whoopdiedoo, you can't not expect for them to end up killing someone later. Gun control is defined as TIGHTENING THE GRIP AROUND LEGAL SALES OF GUNS. NOT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. TIL that people who shoot up schools buy their guns 3 days prior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Пол игрока trade karambite Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 Mexico with the highest rate seems accurate. true, not to be EJEE RASISTT, but there's a ton of drugs there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Prof. Sugarcube♥ Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 TIL that people who shoot up schools buy their guns 3 days prior. Some hold guns for a year or so, but psychos buy guns then use them as soon as they buy them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkle Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I'm surprised that one "I need guns to keep myself safe" guy hasn't shown up yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gent♥ Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 More reports of drugs than there are gun reports. If you TRULY wanted to lower gun abuse, you need to track down the people who use it incorrectly. Do heavy background checks on everybody with licenses as well as their family and friends backgrounds to ensure lower chances of homicide. Convenient you say 're-read' then edit your post, huh? 'Background checks on people with guns'? You mean, control who has guns? That's a fairly novel idea you've got there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Prof. Sugarcube♥ Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Convenient you say 're-read' then edit your post, huh? 'Background checks on people with guns'? You mean, control who has guns? That's a fairly novel idea you've got there. Two words. GUN CONTROL <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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