Shotgun Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 I feel sorry for everyone that got scammed hope they can eventually recover from it RussellSproutz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicepar Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199389182144 flan https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199198828064 iron_aj https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199218338009 requiem https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199219758482 shawl https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199125443371 bee bot (beebot jr wasn't hit) im missing lozangle's bot; theres possibly more hopefully someone can help link those RussellSproutz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughingLollipop Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 don't worry I'm sure their terms of service provided them complete immunity from responsibility its a 3rd party site theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellSproutz Posted June 15, 2023 Author Share Posted June 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, Juicepar said: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199389182144 flan https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199198828064 iron_aj https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199218338009 requiem https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199219758482 shawl https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199125443371 bee bot (beebot jr wasn't hit) im missing lozangle's bot; theres possibly more hopefully someone can help link those https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199111292616 this is Loz's bot, Catra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicepar Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 minute ago, LaughingLollipop said: don't worry I'm sure their terms of service provided them complete immunity from responsibility its a 3rd party site theme Cave has a track record of repaying a loss like this, if the site ends up going down than hes gonna go out repaying these losses Vidual Cadet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karma miguel Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Dang, thats crazy. i wonder whats going to happen to all the stolen stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duskfen Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 That is fucking horrendous, but... When are people going to realize that your own money is only completely safe in your OWN hands??? This just feels like the bot equivalent of the many times people paid somebody a commission to broker their items, and going "Make me money." We all know how well that went lmao. I hope everybody does get their money back, but, I would strongly advise looking into ways to do what they do yourself, rather than putting your full trust onto something 3rd party, because you have to realize. If they wanted to make out like bandits, (not saying they would), they could. Never feel like it's unreasonable to not trust somebody else with your own money, no matter their trustworthiness, no matter their track record, no matter their size. Because even things as "indestructible" as banks can fail, and when they do, they can give you the middle finger down to the FDIC insured amount. Oh, and don't worry, it'll only take 6 months for you to get that money back! Kwas, RouzenZaker, Melancholy Sky and 8 others 8 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellSproutz Posted June 15, 2023 Author Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, duskfen said: That is fucking horrendous, but... When are people going to realize that your own money is only completely safe in your OWN hands??? This just feels like the bot equivalent of the many times people paid somebody a commission to broker their items, and going "Make me money." We all know how well that went lmao. I hope everybody does get their money back, but, I would strongly advise looking into ways to do what they do yourself, rather than putting your full trust onto something 3rd party. I'm a trader who's been trading for about 11 years now albeit on and off. I've always thought it was better to trade with a person to person and not utilizing a bot. Plus I always thought it was fun to trade even if I don't get to play much these days. I agree with you here, duskfen. ApothicЯ, mb_, Kwas and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellSproutz Posted June 15, 2023 Author Share Posted June 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, karma miguel said: Dang, thats crazy. i wonder whats going to happen to all the stolen stuff I know right. I hope Gladiator.tf can figure something out to reimburse the victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellSproutz Posted June 15, 2023 Author Share Posted June 15, 2023 34 minutes ago, Shotgun said: I feel sorry for everyone that got scammed hope they can eventually recover from it I hope so too. It's really a shame this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyfer Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, duskfen said: This just feels like the bot equivalent of the many times people paid somebody a commission to broker their items, and going "Make me money." We all know how well that went lmao. If youre referencing party here, thats a whole nother segment for a different time. I wont get into that here. 4 minutes ago, duskfen said: When are people going to realize that your own money is only completely safe in your OWN hands??? Okay but.. its not. *usually* third party sites for trading have extra security steps, such as encrypting transactions and data. You hear of people getting scammed/hacked a lot more frequently than you hear of a site getting hacked. I dont know the extensive details as to the security measures that gladiator has, but im pretty sure its stronger than my steam account. Sites dont get hacked often, but when they do, its usually by someone whos extremely sophisticated and has access to tools that they shouldnt have. Unless we are talking VAC. Pretty sure a monkey could bypass that. saϻ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellSproutz Posted June 15, 2023 Author Share Posted June 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Lucyfer said: If youre referencing party here, thats a whole nother segment for a different time. I wont get into that here. Okay but.. its not. *usually* third party sites for trading have extra security steps, such as encrypting transactions and data. You hear of people getting scammed/hacked a lot more frequently than you hear of a site getting hacked. I dont know the extensive details as to the security measures that gladiator has, but im pretty sure its stronger than my steam account. Sites dont get hacked often, but when they do, its usually by someone whos extremely sophisticated and has access to tools that they shouldnt have. Unless we are talking VAC. Pretty sure a monkey could bypass that. This is certainly a rare occasion that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duskfen Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lucyfer said: If youre referencing party here, thats a whole nother segment for a different time. I wont get into that here. Okay but.. its not. *usually* third party sites for trading have extra security steps, such as encrypting transactions and data. You hear of people getting scammed/hacked a lot more frequently than you hear of a site getting hacked. I dont know the extensive details as to the security measures that gladiator has, but im pretty sure its stronger than my steam account. Sites dont get hacked often, but when they do, its usually by someone whos extremely sophisticated and has access to tools that they shouldnt have. Unless we are talking VAC. Pretty sure a monkey could bypass that. One word. Trust. You are still putting your trust on whether a place has the tippity top security to keep your money safe. It doesn't matter if it's an individuals trust or if it's trusting a site's integrity. If you and your steam account got hacked, you had to of done something to make that happen, and you can personally combat the issue. If their site got hacked, they are the ones in control of that, and you can't do anything but watch and trust them. karma miguel, TripleMasterA, Lucyfer and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMF Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 33 minutes ago, duskfen said: When are people going to realize that your own money is only completely safe in your OWN hands??? most sane and rational take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSD Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 GG GO NEXT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellSproutz Posted June 15, 2023 Author Share Posted June 15, 2023 30 minutes ago, duskfen said: One word. Trust. You are still putting your trust on whether a place has the tippity top security to keep your money safe. It doesn't matter if it's an individuals trust or if it's trusting a site's integrity. If you and your steam account got hacked, you had to of done something to make that happen, and you can personally combat the issue. If their site got hacked, they are the ones in control of that, and you can't do anything but watch and trust them. I 100% agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSD Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 skill gap from the bot owners honestly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roygbiv Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 bots are bad and so are scammers karma miguel and LaughingLollipop 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSD Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Ocean's Fourteen starring 5-6 bot owners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellSproutz Posted June 15, 2023 Author Share Posted June 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, roygbiv said: bots are bad and so are scammers I 100% agree to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellSproutz Posted June 15, 2023 Author Share Posted June 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, SNSD said: Ocean's Fourteen starring 5-6 bot owners For real. I wouldn't even blame them. It's a shame what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucyfer Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, duskfen said: One word. Trust. You are still putting your trust on whether a place has the tippity top security to keep your money safe. It doesn't matter if it's an individuals trust or if it's trusting a site's integrity. If you and your steam account got hacked, you had to of done something to make that happen, and you can personally combat the issue. If their site got hacked, they are the ones in control of that, and you can't do anything but watch and trust them. Alright fair I see your point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellSproutz Posted June 15, 2023 Author Share Posted June 15, 2023 10 hours ago, Torb said: Gladiator/cave didn't lose 120k. Their users did. All gladiator loses is users of their (Clearly incompetently run service) and whatever they decide to give to victims. I hope Gladiator reimburses whoever lossed their stuff. That's rough to see this happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Russell said: "gladiator.tf got hacked once again, lost 100k (USD) worth of tf2 items, all put into this one backpack." only one backpack? that's as stupid as leaving a crucial server open to the internet cave seemed like a nice guy,a shame.i hope the void he leaves open gets filled by an equally-goodwilled person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Kolt said: possibly the end of the “buy order” era, so back to the old days where buyers don’t matter people can always code their own bots ofc, but wide scale bot ownership will def fall off unless gladiator thing of some genius strategy to recover best i can come up with is free bot trial to everyone with fine print saying we owe everything left in the bot's backpack after trial ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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