beachdog Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 i got back into tf2 at the beginning of 2021 after about 5 years. I hopped right back into trading because it's always been one of my favorite parts of this game. i put about a hundred bucks in to start, built my way up to 200+ and i've been shopping for a new unusual to keep for a while. i've noticed through my search that there's a big gap in the market. there are so many hats that you can't find in the "mid tier" range. like there just aren't any weather effects, miami nights, dbd, circling effects. they're just not on the market despite the fact that stats show that TONS exist. it seems like all that i can find is either nuts n bolts or a halloween effects that costs a couple hundred keys. it really confuses me because id assume that after the crate depression people wouldn't want to hang onto the middle of the road hats since they could have 10 random unreadable mid tier hats that they paid nothing for. but for some reason, the market just seems to be void of them. i check classifieds, trade bot websites, trade servers, and the scm almost daily just waiting for something to pop up and it hasn't happened since i got back. it's disheartening knowing that unless i end up shelling out a few hundred bucks i'm not gonna be able to get any kind of actually wearable hat. but because i refuse to do that. i'm just stuck where i am. is there something i'm missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucco51 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 so u started this year but your post is about 2026? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free 2 Play Scootz Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 He got back into trading in 2021 AFTER 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argylekicks Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Define "Mid Range" I traded on TF2 for years mid range to me is a few hundred bucks. my definition is the following Low tier - 1-50 keys Low - Mid 51-150 keys Mid - 151 - 499 Mid - High 500-999 High 1000+ I think this comes down too two things, 1st is perspective on the market based on how much money you are willing to spend and 2nd is the fact that inflation is ballooning the market. the fact that metal will never stop being generated means the more the game ages the less keys / pure will be valued at. Hence prices will go up, also add the fact that as the game gets older older effects get harder and harder to find as less hit the market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offline Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 How can you not find blizzardy/stormy, miami nights, dbd, and circling hearts if you are checking classifieds, trade bot websites, trade servers, and scm? I think what you're missing is the hundreds of these hats that are listed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fork Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Offline said: How can you not find blizzardy/stormy, miami nights, dbd, and circling hearts if you are checking classifieds, trade bot websites, trade servers, and scm? I think what you're missing is the hundreds of these hats that are listed... bro leave me alone all you've been doing for the past 15 years is flex your score on an online video game inside a screen. this really represents how much of a try hard you are and how much you sweat on things that don't even make a slight positive difference in your life, all they do is make your life worse by ruining your schedules and taking up extra time so you cant study or exercise or even eat at the correct times. you gain absolutely nothing from doing what you do, and you have the audacity to show off your scores from a useless and valueless video game to other people, who are living the same story and life as you. this really shows how much you've gone into this whole online world and the world of video gaming. yet you show no signs of regret and you have made multiple people furious at your actions. you kill them in game, make them mad, god knows what they've done to cool off, then you come and flex your scores to us, making us rethink our life choices and think about how much we suck compared to you. i'm going out of my way to write this message, this really shows that i am really bored and i have nothing to do. but you gotta know; its just a game. and the things you do in the game are valueless, worthless, and it will all be meaningless in the end. goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachdog Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, Argylekicks said: Define "Mid Range" I traded on TF2 for years mid range to me is a few hundred bucks. my definition is the following Low tier - 1-50 keys Low - Mid 51-150 keys Mid - 151 - 499 Mid - High 500-999 High 1000+ my definition has always been low: under 20 mid: 21-60ish high: 60-150ish god: 150+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argylekicks Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, beachdog said: my definition has always been low: under 20 mid: 21-60ish high: 60-150ish god: 150+ These might fit your price range then https://backpack.tf/classifieds?quality=5&tradable=1&craftable=1&australium=-1&particle=3019&killstreak_tier=0 https://backpack.tf/classifieds?item=Taunt%3A+Deep+Fried+Desire&quality=5&tradable=1&craftable=1&australium=-1&killstreak_tier=0 https://backpack.tf/classifieds?item=Taunt%3A+The+Headcase&quality=5&tradable=1&craftable=1&australium=-1&killstreak_tier=0 https://backpack.tf/stats/Unusual/Hellmet/Tradable/Craftable/101 https://backpack.tf/stats/Unusual/Airdog/Tradable/Craftable/143 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payback Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, beachdog said: i got back into tf2 at the beginning of 2021 after about 5 years. I hopped right back into trading because it's always been one of my favorite parts of this game. i put about a hundred bucks in to start, built my way up to 200+ and i've been shopping for a new unusual to keep for a while. i've noticed through my search that there's a big gap in the market. there are so many hats that you can't find in the "mid tier" range. like there just aren't any weather effects, miami nights, dbd, circling effects. they're just not on the market despite the fact that stats show that TONS exist. it seems like all that i can find is either nuts n bolts or a halloween effects that costs a couple hundred keys. it really confuses me because id assume that after the crate depression people wouldn't want to hang onto the middle of the road hats since they could have 10 random unreadable mid tier hats that they paid nothing for. but for some reason, the market just seems to be void of them. i check classifieds, trade bot websites, trade servers, and the scm almost daily just waiting for something to pop up and it hasn't happened since i got back. it's disheartening knowing that unless i end up shelling out a few hundred bucks i'm not gonna be able to get any kind of actually wearable hat. but because i refuse to do that. i'm just stuck where i am. is there something i'm missing? Well, for most casual players, keep in mind that games usually cost people anywhere between $20-60. Considering tf2 is a free to play game, if someone really enjoys tf2, then they probably wouldn't mind shelling out that amount for unusual items given their appreciation for the game and their desire to show off. Some more might want to spend a bit more into the $60-200 range, because they play it a lot. You aren't going to get that many people wanting to throw in a few hundred bucks, hence the market stagnation there That said, there's definitely a lot of midtiers left on the market, you just have to know where to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD⚡HD Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, beachdog said: there are so many hats that you can't find in the "mid tier" range. like there just aren't any weather effects, miami nights, dbd, circling effects. I sorted the classifieds by these effects and my page crashed there were so many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachdog Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Offline said: How can you not find blizzardy/stormy, miami nights, dbd, and circling hearts if you are checking classifieds, trade bot websites, trade servers, and scm? I think what you're missing is the hundreds of these hats that are listed... i'm on mobile so it won't let me use images but some examples i found killawatt combustible kabuto, 19 exist, zero in classifieds miami nights ground control, 14 exist, zero in classifieds vivid plasma el jefe, 15 exist, zero in classifieds miami nights frontier djustice, 18 exist, zero in classifieds. i wouldn't consider any of these overly desirable but the fact that a good amount exist and there aren't any readily available? there's big gaps in certain hats. like i mentioned you can buy nuts n bolts or halloween effects. there's very little in between especially with hats that have been out as long as these have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachdog Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Argylekicks said: These might fit your price range then https://backpack.tf/classifieds?quality=5&tradable=1&craftable=1&australium=-1&particle=3019&killstreak_tier=0 https://backpack.tf/classifieds?item=Taunt%3A+Deep+Fried+Desire&quality=5&tradable=1&craftable=1&australium=-1&killstreak_tier=0 https://backpack.tf/classifieds?item=Taunt%3A+The+Headcase&quality=5&tradable=1&craftable=1&australium=-1&killstreak_tier=0 https://backpack.tf/stats/Unusual/Hellmet/Tradable/Craftable/101 https://backpack.tf/stats/Unusual/Airdog/Tradable/Craftable/143 most of those are taunts but case hats are exceptions i guess cus you can get any airdog any effect for cheap in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachdog Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 i think a big part of what i'm talking about is the fact that everyone wants soldier hats and that's what i've mainly been looking at. and demoman has so very few unusuals that aren't butt ugly that both of those classes are harder to shop for than say medic or spy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 26 minutes ago, beachdog said: i think a big part of what i'm talking about is the fact that everyone wants soldier hats and that's what i've mainly been looking at. and demoman has so very few unusuals that aren't butt ugly that both of those classes are harder to shop for than say medic or spy There is a tons of soldier hat with effects like blizzardy/stormy, miami nights, dbd, and circling hearts.It maybe not the one that you are looking for but it's still there on the classfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 It's only natural that the prices of even mid-tiers have gone up, since the supply of pre-case crates are slowly running out whilst people unbox them less and less each day, so new old-school hats aren't being unboxed at anywhere near a rate to keep the supply in-line with the demand. Energy effects specifically have always been underrated IMO, they're large, pretty good looking, and simplistic enough to not be an eyesore, so energies on higher-tier hats becoming more expensive is something I always anticipated happening. The biggest thing about buying fancy TF2 items is that, unlike just about every other F2P game that you buy fancy things to show off in, TF2 items are able to be traded after you buy them, and if you decide you're bored of the game or just need the money, you can sell those items back; often for as much as or more than you paid for them (assuming you don't buy garbage items like dead presidents robo hats), so essentially as long as the TF2 market doesn't totally crash and you have a tiny bit of patience/time you don't have to worry about that money being "wasted". Save some extra cash to really get what you want and spoil yourself. If it's socially acceptable for people to spend hundreds extra on shoes/purses/etc that are identical to the lower-price ones just because "they have a cool brand logo on them" then it's totally fine to spend a hundred bucks on a virtual cosmetic with a neat particle effect that you can show off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_n Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 YOLO! Buy the hat you want and live life fully with no regrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachdog Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Slam said: The biggest thing about buying fancy TF2 items is that, unlike just about every other F2P game that you buy fancy things to show off in, TF2 items are able to be traded after you buy them, and if you decide you're bored of the game or just need the money, you can sell those items back; often for as much as or more than you paid for them (assuming you don't buy garbage items like dead presidents robo hats), so essentially as long as the TF2 market doesn't totally crash and you have a tiny bit of patience/time you don't have to worry about that money being "wasted". Save some extra cash to really get what you want and spoil yourself. If it's socially acceptable for people to spend hundreds extra on shoes/purses/etc that are identical to the lower-price ones just because "they have a cool brand logo on them" then it's totally fine to spend a hundred bucks on a virtual cosmetic with a neat particle effect that you can show off. you're completely absolutely right but i'm going through it rough financially, so i can't, i'm just trying to make what's in my backpack rn work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JacobB Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 6 hours ago, Offline said: How can you not find blizzardy/stormy, miami nights, dbd, and circling hearts if you are checking classifieds, trade bot websites, trade servers, and scm? I think what you're missing is the hundreds of these hats that are listed... my guess is OP doesn't understand classified listings and/or premium search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWiz Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 @ OP Here's a classifieds with soldier and demo with the effects you mentioned. If you're not sure how to search through classifieds: Go to classifieds tab -> click the ... in the top right -> General section -> Select the classes you're looking for -> go to Particle Effects -> Have fun looking through them all and clicking the ones you're interested in. https://backpack.tf/classifieds?page=1&class=soldier%2Cdemoman&particle=30%2C11%2C18%2C19%2C58%2C61%2C62%2C29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AShyRag Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 op is right, i think that valve has to do something or the game will be dead soon actuall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MopkoBka116 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Unable to find some specific cheap unusuals? "Death of MidTier Unusuals" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidual Cadet Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 8 hours ago, beachdog said: my definition has always been low: under 20 mid: 21-60ish high: 60-150ish god: 150+ Crazy medic voice ”Today… I AM A GOD!!!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr365truck Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 13 hours ago, n_n said: YOLO! Buy the hat you want and live life fully with no regrets. of course you would say that lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Am_Tortilla Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 This looks very nice and is a really nice soilder/demo/sniper/engi hat https://backpack.tf/stats/Unusual/Hat With No Name/Tradable/Craftable/62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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