How many unusual hats there really are?

[Hugh Jackman]

4 minutes ago, Bananas said:

Also if you check the tumblr post, the post itself is so old HOUWARS were priced at 70 keys

indeed, laughable

[Hugh Jackman]

13 minutes ago, Grampa Swood said:

Hi,

 

The count takes everything from https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Category:Unusual_items, then subtracts https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Category:Unusual_taunts from that number. Which is 698 - 95.

Which implies that https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Category:Unusual_items has 698 - 95 = 603 hats, which is wrong. As I have written in the beginning, this page has only 600 hats. (599 unboxable, 1 non-unboxable).
The other 3 unusual items on this page are: 1. haunted metal, 2. haunted axe which is made from this metal, 3. and something else, cant remember, but it is not a cosmetic.

[Grampa Swood]

6 minutes ago, Übermensch_saveTF2 said:

Which implies that https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Category:Unusual_items has 698 - 95 = 603 hats, which is wrong. As I have written at the beginning, this page has only 600 hats. (599 unboxable, 1 non-unboxable).
The other 3 unusual items on this page are: 1. haunted metal, 2. haunted axe which is made from this metal, 3. and something else, cant remember, but it is not a cosmetic.

I'll give it a quick recount then

[Colonel Johnson]

1 hour ago, Übermensch_saveTF2 said:

 

 

 

Thank you all for information, very helpful.
So it happens that there is an unusual:
Bill Hat - https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5049bc219ae21a4f79000000
Max's Severed Head - https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/List_of_miscellaneous_reward_item_owners

Cheater's Lament - https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/List_of_miscellaneous_reward_item_owners
Houwar - https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/List_of_miscellaneous_reward_item_owners
Ebenzer - https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/List_of_miscellaneous_reward_item_owners

Summer Hat - https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/iu82vf/can_someone_explain_how_this_guy_have_a_nebula/ (it seems like this is a bug reported reward too, wiki just misses it)
Summer Shades/Towering Shades - couldn't find any evidence of existence
Spine Skull - couldn't find any evidence of existence

Now if we will consider at least the first 6 hats in this list, it is now more possible hats than stated on the wiki, instead of 603 ,there at least 600 + 6 hats.
Which is kinda dissapointing because I was thinking that the missing 3 hats could be unboxed, it seemed logical since all 599 cosmetics could be technically unboxed, except Finder's Fee.
Anyway thank you everyone for information, will be appreciative if someone knows anything else about any other hats (also the Summer Shades/Towering Shades and Spine Skull listed above).

 

 

For the Spine Skull: this video at 0:55 (however, you may not consider it Unusual since it's Self-Made?).

 

[Grampa Swood]

1 hour ago, Übermensch_saveTF2 said:

Now if we will consider at least the first 6 hats in this list, it is now more possible hats than stated on the wiki, instead of 603 ,there at least 600 + 6 hats.

Btw, glitched/rewarded Unusuals are not counted towards this list intentionally. The categorisation of these items is automatically done through the infobox you see on each page, if it has "Unusual" as an available quality only then is it put in the category. So this one missing hat can't be one that is obtained through a non-standard method.

[Grampa Swood]

There should be 600 hats and then it also counted the scrap metal, headtaker, and the unusualifier. Should be fixed now.

[Hugh Jackman]

34 minutes ago, Grampa Swood said:

There should be 600 hats and then it also counted the scrap metal, headtaker, and the unusualifier. Should be fixed now.

Someone updated this page a few hours ago:
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Template:Itemcount
Changing the pool from 603 to 600 hats. I guess it was someone from here

[Hugh Jackman]

57 minutes ago, Colonel Johnson said:

 

For the Spine Skull: this video at 0:55 (however, you may not consider it Unusual since it's Self-Made?).

 

Yes you are correct. I guess it cannot be considered an unusual.

[Grampa Swood]

7 minutes ago, Übermensch_saveTF2 said:

I guess it was someone from here

It got posted in the IRC channel and that made someone look into it.

[Bananas]

2 minutes ago, Übermensch_saveTF2 said:

Yes you are correct. I guess it cannot be considered an unusual.

pretty sure the video maker and Johnson are wrong, the “given to valuable community contributors” only appears on community items afaik, which is a different item quality than self made. Community shotguns, rockets, etc all exist and have been given to people like the dudes who ran tip of the hats (tipped lid was based on this event)

 

self made items will have flavor text that says “I made this!”

 

even though you can be technical about this , it has haunted ghosts as an effect making it more than just self made/community, pretty much no other community sparkle is like this, making it a unique exception. Even shit like self made max and big kill are just community sparkles and those are ultra rare

[Colonel Johnson]

1 hour ago, Bananas said:

pretty sure the video maker and Johnson are wrong, the “given to valuable community contributors” only appears on community items afaik, which is a different item quality than self made. Community shotguns, rockets, etc all exist and have been given to people like the dudes who ran tip of the hats (tipped lid was based on this event)

 

self made items will have flavor text that says “I made this!”

 

even though you can be technical about this , it has haunted ghosts as an effect making it more than just self made/community, pretty much no other community sparkle is like this, making it a unique exception. Even shit like self made max and big kill are just community sparkles and those are ultra rare

 

Oh. my bad, I just pasted Casperr's video for the Spine Skull evidence; I felt there was a mistake in what he said about the item's story.

Should be still consider the Spine Skull an Unusual since it has, as the item description says, an "Unusual Effect", not considering the item quality itself?

What about every cosmetic with the Genteel Smoke effect, then?

[Bananas]

2 hours ago, Colonel Johnson said:

 

Oh. my bad, I just pasted Casperr's video for the Spine Skull evidence; I felt there was a mistake in what he said about the item's story.

Should be still consider the Spine Skull an Unusual since it has, as the item description says, an "Unusual Effect", not considering the item quality itself?

What about every cosmetic with the Genteel Smoke effect, then?

map stamps, genteel smoke, music note etc are all considered “decorative effects” on the wiki, which are seperate from any unboxable unusual effects

 

they can be considered unusual effects, if you are the kind of guy to consider a haunted scrap metal or head taker a true unusual.

 

its really just splitting hairs at the end of the day. the og story is that valve offered the dude any unusual hat with any effect because he was sick, and it got turned into a community item as a result of (I’m assuming) valve being valve since it was one of the first charity related unusuals and they didn’t have a set standard yet

[Bananas]

2 hours ago, Colonel Johnson said:

Should be still consider the Spine Skull an Unusual since it has, as the item description says, an "Unusual Effect", not considering the item quality itself?

its also not quite a real community item and not quite unusual, it’s like the dirty love child of both

 

real community items have the community sparkle effect listed in the description, and though it may have sparkle in game (not 100%), it only lists the unusual effect of ghosts

[AwesomeSause]

12 hours ago, Übermensch_saveTF2 said:

Very informative, also yes it is sunbeams indeed, Much Thanks.

Mmmmm sunbeams