ajdislikesyournamingpolicy Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 I'd like to open up this discussion again to see how opinions have changed towards this topic and also to see reactions to this rather serious problem for newcomers to the community. This is not a post for you to sh*ttalk other people who you deem as "sharkers" and no we will not argue over the meaning of what "sharking" means, that would be totally uncalled for and would eventually turn into a massive clusterf*ck. Having got that over with, I would like to ignite this discussion by first appreciating the steps that have been taken to prevent as many as these "sharks" as possible. In response to much public outburst, the backpack.tf team have chosen to: Limit searching for only specific unusuals only but still all the effects Implementation of the minus trust reps for repeated unbalanced trades as seen evident on a few profiles There are of course many other changes but these I feel are a bit more significant than others. Of course, with changes comes adaption and it really does not take much more effort to search for these new unusuals as you can still search for specific unusuals and all their effects such as all the effects for the unusual Jungle Wreath or other recently added high-value items. We could argue what would most people use Premium Seach for? I believe it's main purpose was to aid people that had their eyes set on dream unusuals but were not on market, in this case it would be helpful to have a tool that would instantly guide you to the unusuals history and its owner. In this way, it would be used responsibly as well as for good purposes only What change would I propose? Having been told what change could be made to Premium Search for the legitimate reasons I stated above to using Premium search, a small change would be to only be able to : Search specific hats with specific effect, i.e. only being able to search a Darkblaze Hong Kong Cone by itself instead of all the unusual Hong Kong Cones, this would mean "sharkers" would have to search individual hats and effects together, increasing combinations they had to check through and thus slowing them down massively Implement a time to be able to search between items, such as a buffer of 5 seconds or even a minute if necessary, this is based off the fact that people searching for rare one of one unusuals would not need to search more than once within a few minutes as they are only looking for that specific unusual and not multiple different ones It has come to the point that I've had to comment repeatedly on unboxer steam profiles or add them up to warn them about users adding them due to the high valued items they have unboxed. It is such a relief and sense of success when you do prevent a scam or "shark", though it is possible to do this repeatedly, it is extremely easy to lose interest in as I became a babysitter for these unboxers and surprisingly enough, I have a life outside of trading. I realise that no-one asked me to do it, but out of a purely moral obligation I chose to comment, add and invite these people to the backpack.tf discord for them to get help and correct pricechecks as I doubt my own knowledge could pricecheck said items - and yes I had the ability in my hands to tell them their item was not worth that much and profit off them like that but I chose not too as that is truly scummy and having participated in this community, can truly see the friends that I have made and good that it does for people. At the same time, these changes I propose would very easily buffer and delay the time of these "sharkers" , I can very easily set up a folder that literally searches for every new unusual and all their effect and run auto refresher on all of them and easily see when a new one pops up - with no time lost on my half. Though the previous implementations meant the "sharkers" had to click one extra button and type in an actual hats name, it really does not slow them down too much and having talked to a few people, they believed it really made it much slower for them which just is not true. For those with premium, it is still incredibly simple to search for new unboxers. I thank you for reading my small post and encourage you to comment ideas that you may have in countering the misuse of Premium search. I put the words "shark" and "sharkers" in quotation marks so no-one decided to nitpick me for using wrong definitions. Again, this is not a place to publicly expose anybody, it is simply a forums post to ignite this discussion on how to "fix" Premium search and I am not saying that removing it would do anything as well as Premium search being the problem specifically. I cannot remember where I remember this quote from but "the knife itself is not evil if you use it to cut a cake but rather the person itself who uses it to commit physical greivances as well as damage to others that is evil" Thank you and I encourage you to comment your opinion and ideas on this matter! AJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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