StarTroyDSD Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Share your opinions on some famous paradoxes, maybe give some ideas as to your reasoning. For example, the Grandfather Paradox, in which you go back in time and kill your grandfather before your parents were born, can be easily resolved in my opinion using the Multiverse theory. You simply traveled into a parallel universe in your time machine, and in your universe, your grandfather is still alive. What are your thoughts on paradoxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
There Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I think... that I don't think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloo Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 For example, the Grandfather Paradox, in which you go back in time and kill your grandfather before your parents were born. Who in the hell even thought of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
✔ P I X E L A T E D ✔ Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Heres a question. Given the opportunity, would you kill Hitler before WW2. It the seems an obvious answer, but without the war we may never have reached our technological stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Heres a question. Given the opportunity, would you kill Hitler before WW2. It the seems an obvious answer, but without the war we may never have reached our technological stage. Or we would have gotten further; god knows what the 70, some-odd, million people who died in the war would have invented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F CHARLIE Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Or we would have gotten further; god knows what the 70, some-odd, million people who died in the war would have invented. I think history disagrees. It is often in times of chaos, change and need that has provided the greatest innovation. But, yes, kill him. There still would be chaos without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kireek Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Or we would have gotten further; god knows what the 70, some-odd, million people who died in the war would have invented. Or what they could have done that would have drastically altered the future. Say another dictator or even a start of a terrorist organisation. 1 life wayed upon 70 million would make sense to kill him. But of those 70 million, whos to say one of those may not become another person identical or even worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NewWizard Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Heres a question. Given the opportunity, would you kill Hitler before WW2. It the seems an obvious answer, but without the war we may never have reached our technological stage. WW2 would happen anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Or what they could have done that would have drastically altered the future. Say another dictator or even a start of a terrorist organisation. 1 life wayed upon 70 million would make sense to kill him. But of those 70 million, whos to say one of those may not become another person identical or even worse? By that same logic, killing Hitler might have prevented all the unrest in the middle east--maybe the arabs would have made peace, and the entire world wouldn't be at war*. *whether a physical war or the the buildup/etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NewWizard Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 By that same logic, killing Hitler might have prevented all the unrest in the middle east--maybe the arabs would have made peace, and the entire world wouldn't be at war*. *whether a physical war or the the buildup/etc... That doesn't make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
There Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 That doesn't make any sense. Yes .Israel, and several other middle eastern countries, were created by the UN after the war as a sort of safe haven for the Jews. Israel has caused a lot of unrest in the Middle East, so without it it might not be a war zone, just a bunch of power hungry dictators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kireek Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Yes .Israel, and several other middle eastern countries, were created by the UN after the war as a sort of safe haven for the Jews. Israel has caused a lot of unrest in the Middle East, so without it it might not be a war zone, just a bunch of power hungry dictators. So the long and short of this is: no matter what we do, no matter who we stop or how we do it. We are always going to find a way to kill. Because we're human. And it isn't human nature to build, only to kill and destroy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Yes .Israel, and several other middle eastern countries, were created by the UN after the war as a sort of safe haven for the Jews. Israel has caused a lot of unrest in the Middle East, so without it it might not be a war zone, just a bunch of power hungry dictators. There was plenty of unrest even before Israel was declared a state. The middle east wasn't exactly a safe place during the Ottoman Empire. So the long and short of this is: no matter what we do, no matter who we stop or how we do it. We are always going to find a way to kill. Because we're human. And it isn't human nature to build, only to kill and destroy. Exactly, so if theres ever a chance to stop someone like Hitler it should be done; because no matter what you do someone else will come along and cause just as much trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarTroyDSD Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 During what point in Hitler's life would you kill him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
✔ P I X E L A T E D ✔ Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 WW2 would happen anyway. Yes but the holocaust might not have, Its debatable whether Hitler used the holocaust to create a war or the war to create to holocaust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kireek Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 During what point in Hitler's life would you kill him? hard to say. Even though he was a cruel, evil, vile man he is still human. What we are effectively talking about is the murder of a human. There isn't really a appropriate point in anyone's life to die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC22 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Don't any of you believe in chaos theory? If x did happen who knows wtf is gonna happen I'll post a nice math related paradox as well soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
There Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I'll post a nice math related paradox as well soon Edit: .999999999... is apparently a paradox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Map Painter Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 By that same logic, killing Hitler might have prevented all the unrest in the middle east--maybe the arabs would have made peace, and the entire world wouldn't be at war*. *whether a physical war or the the buildup/etc... The Russians and Turks would eventually end up at war with eachother, again. Austria could side with either. Or what they could have done that would have drastically altered the future. Say another dictator or even a start of a terrorist organisation. 1 life wayed upon 70 million would make sense to kill him. But of those 70 million, whos to say one of those may not become another person identical or even worse? Those 70 million would have died in a different war altogether, the League of Nations was a complete failure. Italy would still be able to conquer North Africa, the Japanese faced little opposition until 1941 and the USSR (who actually invaded Poland with Hitler) would be fighting the Turks in the Crimea and the UK + France for Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC22 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Newcomb's: There are 2 boxes: box1 has a thousand dollars. Box2 has either 0 or 1 milllion dollars. You have two choices: take whats in both boxes or take what it is box 2. Theres a superior being who has predictive power. If he predicts you take both boxes or randomly choosing one option like flipping a coin he puts no money in box2. If he predicts you take box2 only, then he puts a million in box2. Do you take both or just box2? Gah typing in mobile is long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F CHARLIE Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Newcomb's: There are 2 boxes: box1 has a thousand dollars. Box2 has either 0 or 1 milllion dollars. You have two choices: take whats in both boxes or take what it is box 2. Theres a superior being who has predictive power. If he predicts you take both boxes or randomly choosing one option like flipping a coin he puts no money in box2. If he predicts you take box2 only, then he puts a million in box2. Do you take both or just box2? Gah typing in mobile is long Knowing these facts I choose the second box. What would happen if Pinocchio said "My nose will be growing"? and Mr. Jones has two children. The older child is a girl. What is the probability that both children are girls? Mr. Smith has two children. At least one of them is a boy. What is the probability that both children are boys? Is the answer to these two questions the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F CHARLIE Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 You have two indistinguishable envelopes that each contain money. One contains twice as much as the other. You may pick one envelope and keep the money it contains. You pick at random, but before you open the envelope, you are offered the chance to take the other envelope instead. Do you choose it? A professor travels forward in time, and reads in a physics journal about a new equation that was recently derived. The professor travels back a few seconds after the journey was made, and relates it to one of the students who writes it up, and the article is published in the same journal which the professor reads in the future. Where did the equation come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NewWizard Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Mr. Jones has two children. The older child is a girl. What is the probability that both children are girls? Mr. Smith has two children. At least one of them is a boy. What is the probability that both children are boys? Is the answer to these two questions the same? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F CHARLIE Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Yes. No The Prob for the first is 1/2 The Prob for the second is 1/3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NewWizard Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 No The Prob for the first is 1/2 The Prob for the second is 1/3 Explain? If we know that one child is a boy. Then to prob of second being boy is 50/50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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