Pyrocide Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 an early Happy "Man who slaughtered, raped, slave trafficked, pillaged and otherwise emotionally scarred some 5M natives in his exploitation of the New World" Day. *disclaimer: this for those in the States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddingkip Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 an early Happy "Man who slaughtered, raped, slave trafficked, pillaged and otherwise emotionally scarred some 5M natives in his exploitation of the New World" Day. *disclaimer: this for those in the States. this day being? as in who are we "honouring"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Demin Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 this day being? as in who are we "honouring"? I think he's talking about Santa Claus. That's why his suit is red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrocide Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 Columbus Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Map Painter Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Columbus Day Somebody forgot John Cabot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrocide Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 Somebody forgot John Cabot. Didnt forget, I was just commenting on the shameful fact that the US federally recognized holiday is honoring a rapist, torturer, mass murderer, pedo-pimp & father of transatlantic slave trafficking in the same respect as MLK or JFK. HA! One of favorite comics also agrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@@@@@@ Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 i wish my school wasnt shit and we had a day off for columbus day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4th Harbringer Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Didnt forget, I was just commenting on the shameful fact that the US federally recognized holiday is honoring a rapist, torturer, mass murderer, pedo-pimp & father of transatlantic slave trafficking in the same respect as MLK or JFK. HA! One of favorite comics also agrees. While Columbus Day is indeed a pretty bad day to celebrate, The Oatmeal is a pretty braindead comic, and uses oversimplified arguments. Bartolome wasn't such a great guy, either; in fact, he was one of the ones who came up with the idea for the African Slave Trade, as a replacement for enslaving natives. Columbus wasn't really responsible for the slave trade as the comic strongly implies; the slave trade was a consequence of African Gold losing its value and the ideas of people like Bartolome, who believed that Africans would be better suited for labor in the new world. To be honest though, I'm happy that I have a day off, so I'm not complaining either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloo Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 i wish my school wasnt shit and we had a day off for columbus day LOL I got the day off! ...Too bad I'm gonna spend all that time finishing the outline of my Extended Essay due the next day. IB sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrocide Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 While Columbus Day is indeed a pretty bad day to celebrate, The Oatmeal is a pretty braindead comic, and uses oversimplified arguments. Bartolome wasn't such a great guy, either; in fact, he was one of the ones who came up with the idea for the African Slave Trade, as a replacement for enslaving natives. Columbus wasn't really responsible for the slave trade as the comic strongly implies; the slave trade was a consequence of African Gold losing its value and the ideas of people like Bartolome, who believed that Africans would be better suited for labor in the new world. To be honest though, I'm happy that I have a day off, so I'm not complaining either way. Cant you just enjoy the comic for what it is - a comic. lol The Mantis shrimp comic is pretty good as I have a Mantis tank and the little bastard is evil. But so awesome. There are just plain awful comics on the Oatmeal site, i agree, but its a site filled with comics bound to be some bad ones and some good ones. However, he and I share the same views on Columbus Day as a federal holiday. Tis true though Columbus didn't technically "father" Atlantic slaving, however he did deal in slaves both labor and sex in the New World and Spain hence one of the first instances of slave trafficking across the Atlantic. He just happens to be the most know celeb documentation of it thus i say he fathered it EDIT: all you effers that have it off from work. You suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarZX Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I agree with this; Shitopher Columbus doesn't deserve any respect or recognition. On the other hand, day off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4th Harbringer Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Cant you just enjoy the comic for what it is - a comic. lol The Mantis shrimp comic is pretty good as I have a Mantis tank and the little bastard is evil. But so awesome. There are just plain awful comics on the Oatmeal site, i agree, but its a site filled with comics bound to be some bad ones and some good ones. However, he and I share the same views on Columbus Day as a federal holiday. Tis true though Columbus didn't technically "father" Atlantic slaving, however he did deal in slaves both labor and sex in the New World and Spain hence one of the first instances of slave trafficking across the Atlantic. He just happens to be the most know celeb documentation of it thus i say he fathered it EDIT: all you effers that have it off from work. You suck. Fair enough, that Mantis Shrimp one was pretty fascinating. I just can't stand when the writer goes on an anti-religious rant, like he has been pretty often. Yeah, his slave-handling in the new world was beyond despicable. The fact he wanted to use young girls for currency among his sailors is horrific. I hate revisionist history, but Columbus day is a major example of when revisionism is plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenging Flame Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I celebrated today by going to my neighbor's house and telling them it was my house now. I now have this awesome new big screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherChigga #Mack Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Wait...today was Columbus day? So that's why we had school off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dixiecountry1971 Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Wait...today was Columbus day? So that's why we had school off Ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloo Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 an early Happy "Man who slaughtered, raped, slave trafficked, pillaged and otherwise emotionally scarred some 5M natives in his exploitation of the New World" Day.[/size] *disclaimer: this for those in the States.[/size] Yes, he did this singlehandedly and knowing fullwell the impact and implications of his actions. /sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrocide Posted October 12, 2013 Author Share Posted October 12, 2013 Wait...today was Columbus day? So that's why we had school off Ya Monday is Columbus day. A lot of schools have early release/school closure (due to being a federal recognized holiday) in observance of Monday. Yes, he did this singlehandedly allowed knowing fullwell the impact and implications of his actions. /notsarcasm Yes he did. Thanks for clearing that up. Action 1: Systematic genocide through labor for gold and riches on orders from the Spanish royalty Implication 1: Death of millions of indigenous people Or is it ok to just be oblivious to the grown men working for you raping children treated as a commodity - just to be clear as to what you are saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Map Painter Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 It seems this hat also commemorates him; http://backpack.tf/stats/721/5/60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC22 Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 leif erikson found north america first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrocide Posted October 13, 2013 Author Share Posted October 13, 2013 leif erikson was the first European that found north america first Correct me if im wrong but didn't the alaskan native people find it first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddingkip Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Correct me if im wrong but didn't the alaskan native people find it first? If I'm right, Alaskan native people are fairly new. The first people to cross the strait I believe merged into some central American tribe. They first lived in Alaska, but the current Alaskan natives are newer. Still much earlier than Columbus or Leif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrocide Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 Fair enough, that Mantis Shrimp one was pretty fascinating. I just can't stand when the writer goes on an anti-religious rant, like he has been pretty often. Yeah, his slave-handling in the new world was beyond despicable. The fact he wanted to use young girls for currency among his sailors is horrific. I hate revisionist history, but Columbus day is a major example of when revisionism is plausible. Looks like The Oatmeal guy put in a footnote relating to Bartolome and his beginnings of the slave trade. A very important note about Bartolomé de las Casas and the African slave tradeThis issue keeps coming up and, despite my footnotes, I keep seeing commentary about it so I'm going to address it here. Initially, Bartolomé de las Casas advocated the use of African slaves instead of native labor. In the first few years after he renounced his land and title, his initial cause was to end the suffering of the natives, rather than seeking an end to the institution of slavery itself, and so this became his deplorable rationale for the endorsement of African slavery. Bartolomé de las Casas eventually retracted those views, however, and came to see all forms of slavery as being equally wrong. In The History of the Indies published in 1527, he wrote the following: I soon repented and judged myself guilty of ignorance. I came to realize that black slavery was as unjust as Indian slavery... and I was not sure that my ignorance and good faith would secure me in the eyes of God. I know that the discovery of the New World means a lot of different things to a lot of different cultures. I like the sound of Bartolomé Day. If you don't like that, call it Indigenous People's Day. Or perhaps Chris-Columbus-was-a-turd Day. I'd even settle for just calling it MONDAY. But please, oh please do not call it Columbus Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Python. Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Somebody forgot John Cabot. I live on John Cabot road in my neighborhood c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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