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Really, saying that Gay People are human is like saying that Pedophiles are sane.

You're comparing people who enjoy abusing children as a hobby to people who are attracted to people of the same sex?

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Forcing a priest to allow a homosexual marriage breaks the 1st Amendment, yet it's legal?

This is where you are wrong. If the government allows homosexuality, they are NOT forcing priests to allow gay people in Christianity. They are giving gays the RIGHT to have that sexual orientation. 

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You're comparing people who enjoy abusing children as a hobby to people who are attracted to people of the same sex?

You're confusing pedophiles and pedosexuals. Pedophiles have weird sexual feelings towards children. Pedosexuals actually perform sexual acts with children. Pedophiles are okay for me, pedosexuals NOT

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Pedophiles have weird sexual feelings towards children.

 

Pedophiles are okay for me

 

Umm, you might want to rephrase that.

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Umm, you might want to rephrase that.

yeah uhm. I kinda mean that I don't understand the feelings, but that I see no problem with people having them. Same with homosexuality. As long as pedophiles don't express them and become pedosexuals.

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That cool looking new one, Francesco I, is much less against AND even slightly pro.

 

 

No, you're still acting really dumb here.  Just quickly browse the wikipedia page about him

 

"According to Sandro Magister, Pope Francis is more concerned about militant secularism than liberation theology. Magister said that Francis cared about the global spread of concepts including easy legal abortion and gay marriage, which Francis sees as the work of the devil and the Antichrist."

 

Look up any of his stances as Cardinal Bergoglio and you'll see he was vehemently against gay marriage.  He wants to welcome gays into being accepted into the church, but he is not, in any way, willing to consider gay marriage.

 

TFW 3 minutes of research shows this clearly, obviously you did none

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No, you're still acting really dumb here.  Just quickly browse the wikipedia page about him

 

"According to Sandro Magister, Pope Francis is more concerned about militant secularism than liberation theology. Magister said that Francis cared about the global spread of concepts including easy legal abortion and gay marriage, which Francis sees as the work of the devil and the Antichrist."

 

Look up any of his stances as Cardinal Bergoglio and you'll see he was vehemently against gay marriage.  He wants to welcome gays into being accepted into the church, but he is not, in any way, willing to consider gay marriage.

 

TFW 3 minutes of research shows this clearly, obviously you did none

I will admit I did no research. I just read the morning paper every day. It clearly says he's pro gay. Sigh. Never trust them. Thanks for correcting me

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I will admit I did no research. I just read the morning paper every day. It clearly says he's pro gay. Sigh. Never trust them. Thanks for correcting me

 

 

What do you read, the Washington Post?  New York Times?  Make sure you always do your own research.  "Pro-Gay" is true in the fact he wants to qualm the hatred towards gays and see them accepted in society; he still thinks gay marriage is just as wrong as abortion.  Washington Post Francis is a lot different from Real Francis.

 

EDIT: sorry for being harsh, I just hate people spewing falsehoods in a serious discussion without doing research to back it up

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What do you read, the Washington Post?  New York Times?  Make sure you always do your own research.  "Pro-Gay" is true in the fact he wants to qualm the hatred towards gays and see them accepted in society; he still thinks gay marriage is just as wrong as abortion.  Washington Post Francis is a lot different from Real Francis.

 

EDIT: sorry for being harsh, I just hate people spewing falsehoods in a serious discussion without doing research to back it up

I read Trouw because not everybody is from USA. Trouw is considered the best (most trustworthy) Dutch paper. Oh and don't worry about feeling harsh. You won't hurt my feelings as I don't have them

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You're confusing pedophiles and pedosexuals. Pedophiles have weird sexual feelings towards children. Pedosexuals actually perform sexual acts with children. Pedophiles are okay for me, pedosexuals NOT

 

So you're okay with the distribution of child pornography? How can anyone think that pedophilia is "okay"?

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So you're okay with the distribution of child pornography? How can anyone think that pedophilia is "okay"?

 

Some people have some trauma when they're younger and remain attracted to the age group that they had that trauma during.  It's no different than environmentally-acquired homosexuality (and I'm sure that it does exist alongside naturally-occurring homosexuality, to a smaller extent), except that instead of attraction towards the same sex, it's attraction towards people of the opposite sex of a younger age.  Pedophilia is an illness, and you can't be nice to gays and kick pedophiles on the street because of their attraction.  Child porn and sex is still not okay, though, at least in our society.  Just like how gay sex was considered evil by a huge majority in the 50s.

 

So I'm not defending CP, just offering devil's advocacy.

 

now when it comes to loli...

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Some people have some trauma when they're younger and remain attracted to the age group that they had that trauma during.  It's no different than environmentally-acquired homosexuality (and I'm sure that it does exist alongside naturally-occurring homosexuality, to a smaller extent), except that instead of attraction towards the same sex, it's attraction towards people of the opposite sex of a younger age.  Pedophilia is an illness, and you can't be nice to gays and kick pedophiles on the street because of their attraction.  Child porn and sex is still not okay, though, at least in our society.  Just like how gay sex was considered evil by a huge majority in the 50s.

 

So I'm not defending CP, just offering devil's advocacy.

 

now when it comes to loli...

 

So you're basically saying that pedophilia is a sickness, and it is very similar to homosexuality?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality

 

Please read. I'm not trying to be mean, but I don't think some of you know the definition.

> As a medical diagnosis, pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in persons 16 years of age or older typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest toward prepubescent children (generally age 11 years or younger, though specific diagnostic criteria for the disorder extends the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13)

 

Sounds like I kind had the right definition in my head already

 

Of course, though, talking about "pedophilia" still will involve talk about 30 year olds running after 16 year olds. It's an incorrect definition, but it's what everyone assumes it to mean. So there's no harm in including a larger age range when discussing it.

 

So you're basically saying that pedophilia is a sickness, and it is very similar to homosexuality?

How isn't it? It's a birth defect most likely caused by the mother's immune system attacking the baby, giving it "feminine" traits. It doesn't seem, from current research, that it's any different in formation than Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, for example, other than the mechanism of mutation.

 

It's a "disease" in all classical senses, or at the very least a "disorder", and whether or not you think it's a harmless one (like me, for the most part, I don't harbor any disdain towards homosexuals and don't think of them any differently) -- it's as if it's a crime to admit that it's a disorder/disease that affects a small part of the population (for better or worse). While I can see why the media wants to bury this debate to help accept gays as equals into society, it doesn't make homosexuality any less of an anomaly than it is.

 

It's as natural as any other disease, such as Sickle Cell Anemia. Just because it is a disease doesn't mean the person is any less valuable or moral by default.

 

Now, when it comes to the comparison to pedophilia, I'm going to only make an example of "homosexuals" who became gay through environmental stresses/stimuli -- not those who are gay naturally. So, a smaller portion of the gay community. How is it any different than pedophilia? Both are mental illness at that point.v Obviously it would be dumb as fuck to compare naturally gay people to pedophiles, because they're not alike in any way.

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So you're okay with the distribution of child pornography? How can anyone think that pedophilia is "okay"?

NO. Child pornography is pedosexuality. This is required to get it. So I'm against it. If you've got feelings for children, but you suppress them and don't harm anybody, I'm fine with you

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i always wondered,

 

why the hell does anyone care what someone else is doing with their sperm or eggs or penis or vagina or money or etc.?  as long as it's not directly hurting anyone, who's business is it anyway?

 

too many americans (i am an american born and raised so i can say this) spend too much time worrying about shit that doesn't concern them b/c too many americans take freedom of speech to mean that what they have in their brains to freely say is important.

 

NEWSFLASH:  YES YOU ARE FREE TO TALK BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WHAT YOU SAY IS SMART.

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i always wondered,

 

why the hell does anyone care what someone else is doing with their sperm or eggs or penis or vagina or money or etc.?  as long as it's not directly hurting anyone, who's business is it anyway?

 

too many americans (i am an american born and raised so i can say this) spend too much time worrying about shit that doesn't concern them b/c too many americans take freedom of speech to mean that what they have in their brains to freely say is important.

 

NEWSFLASH:  YES YOU ARE FREE TO TALK BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WHAT YOU SAY IS SMART.

Hey stop denying freedom of speech
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NO. Child pornography is pedosexuality. This is required to get it. So I'm against it. If you've got feelings for children, but you suppress them and don't harm anybody, I'm fine with you

Where do I apply for your fanclub?

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"Jimmy should not have the right to get more money, because his favorite color is green, not blue."

People who's against same-sex marriage are often referred to as hillbillies, yet the majority of the United States do not allow it.

Oh, and this video might relate somewhat:

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Im mostly neutral on the topic myself, and I would rather not go into detail about my stance . I usually don't see people talking against gay marriage on most chat like areas as most likely most people support it in that area and it is usually one against it vs. 10 for it. You have to go searchin' for the unpopular opinion.

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