amol.more Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Link to suggestion: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52074076ba2536fb4f000004 Here i would like to fisrt answer the questions by J-j-jon, "Green black hole tower is unpriced. You will have to convince me other than what you two "set" the b/o to for me to believe that it is worth 8.5-9You just updated hetmans so it should be considered 1.8 correct?" Ans: 1.The roboactive tower is 13~15, GBH is hardly 2~4 buds lower than that so basically it around 9~12 range hat. I had to consider it 9 since buyers dont want to risk, they dont wann trade till they feel they are trading it for safe value as its unpriced hat. The other guy considered 8.5~9 be safe value and i was ok with it. 2.I could not consider hetman to 1.8 because its price that time was 1.5 to 1.8. Its price updated after i sold mine for clean max successfully. The suggestion for dread was open since time hetman price suggestion was open too. Also while my dread purchase, the guy was not willing to let go the knot till i pay 3 buds. I had to consider pay 3 when i sold GBH tower to him. I said the bracket prices are PAID by me (dread was 3 there) for the overall calculation. he was not wiling to sell it to me below 3. His b/o was always 3 buds and i paid that to him (as i mentioned in my suggestion) http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13177571 Rest all proofs are already there in the suggestion and it received 72% positive votes too. I honestly think you should consider reopening this suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 2.I could not consider hetman to 1.8 because its price that time was 1.5 to 1.8. Its price updated after i sold mine for clean max successfully. The suggestion for dread was open since time hetman price suggestion was open too. But you have to realize what a suggestion means. A suggestion means that the old price was wrong, hence the need for a new updated price. So you do have to value offers based on the current price as they're the accurate price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
∞Ramses Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 The problem is that the GBH Titanium Tower doesn't have a price on backpack.tf yet. Sure, you two can "set" a price, but that doesn't mean it is the price it has been sold before. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12123876 - 5-6 buds quicksale http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13465485 - Sold for Misty Skull Noble (8.9–11.2 buds - 9 months old) http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13437901 - Sold for ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjon123 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 1. You need to prove to us OTHER than from your sale that the GBH tower is worth 8.5-9. You cannot "set" a price for it or the beams dread, that is essentially making up a price 2. I was referring to the second proof: "It seems the beams Hetman and beams dread was sold together for green energy dragonborn" You used the old price for beams hetman. By chatting with you I now understand why you used the old price. Because it was traded 2 weeks ago and you raised the beams hetmans with proof that is only 1 week old. Either way I would not recommend re-suggesting. First you would have to prove a price for the GBH Tower, then you would have to untie a 5:1 unusual trade. If the gbh is even .5 buds above or below 8.5-9 that would make the dreadknot way out of range on either end. And the second trade would only validate raising the high end to 2.8 which to me seems very insignificant. Ill give you 24 hours to reply before I lock the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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