Need help / ideas about a wrong voting I followed, but it does not reflect market

[GM-Cat]

I followed this downvote on crate #30 (salvaged crate) the last days.

 

I was active writing and I cannot understand how this can happen. 

I can proof that this is not reflecting the market, like I promised within this vote.

 

And now I have to say thank you!

I bought ALL #30 crates on tf2outpost @19 keys (not many) and one @ 18 keys.

 

Following trades crate #30 are left ; all @20 keys or higher:

 

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24404783

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14464126

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22430101

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23084793

 

Left on outpost, but I bought @ 18 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24461224

 

And wants hard cash (USD 50,-)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23534114

 

My argumentation was, that a downvote from a range to the low end @ 19 keys is not reflecting the market.

I have to do my example with EUR - please forgive me, but same result on math.

A key on the market is EURO 2,-

A crate #30 is EUR 43,-

 

Of course, you will say: But those EUR 43,- are unsold, aye?
But not my EUR 39,72 and my EUR 40,02  and a quick one for € 35,- I already sold on the steam market. (SEE ATTACHED FILE / SCREENSHOT for the EUR 39,72 -- which is 34,50 after fees) - 

 

A nice quick selling and fast cash. (EUR 3,- winnings including fees)

And btw, put in the next for this amount

 

But 19 keys * EUR 1,90 (and the rate is EUR 2,- atm) are ==> EUR 36,1 (both including fees, both will be less like you see in my screenshot) - with the high rate of EUR 2,00 - those crate are EUR 38,- @ 19 keys - but I was able to sell them @ around € 40,- including fees. That are 20 keys, aye?

All within 24 hours.

 

If you sell keys @ 36,10 -- You get € 31,39

But you have to pay the same amount of fees if you sell keys with the value of 39,72

But this PROOFED sellings are ~20 keys at the moment.

 

I am fine with the old range of 19 - 20 keys.

 

BUT WHY THE HECK WAS THIS VOTING SUCCESSFULL?

 

http://backpack.tf/vote/details/54ad4853b98d885c658b4f49

 

Anyways, thanks for those, who are trying to manipulate the market.

I got all #30 already (@19 keys or lower) 

[Water Salesman]

The SCM doesn't work as proof for suggestions

[GM-Cat]

Then thats the point of this discussion, maybe.   

But that this is not right, can calculate my 12 year old son 

And he will get some nice games for the winnings I did

 

But anyways, its not ok I feel.

 

Thats the point I dont want to try a voting-suggestion. More a discussion in here.

[puddingkip]

If you disagree with the current price, make a countersuggestion with your proof.

 

Scm has however never been accepted as proof for price suggestions, only as supporting proof

[knavesmith]

From what I'm getting, "Oh this suggestion is not right because I'm just about to buy up every Salvaged crate at the suggested price! As an excuse for my price manipulation, I'm going to TRY to support the old price by using SCM sales!"

 

First of all, what you were just trying to do is price manipulation, which is a serious offense on this site. Second of all, SCM sales can only be used as supporting proof for a suggestion; you require actual pure sales if you wish to support a price.

[GM-Cat]

@smith

 

Well, it seems that you didnt read my text. Then you would know that my vote is one of the 16x votes AGAIN this STUPID price.

Even before, in the range, the winning was possible for me.

Only because of this post, I checked my statistic-server and --- well bought them --- thank you.

You can downvote them to 10 keys ... but those left 4 sellers are informed for now and steam market is steam market

Then this is manipulating the economy, not me ... 

Or why not sell your crate #30 for € 36,- on market to reflect your opinion - I will be there 

 

But that is the point. There is no more proof on tf2outpost

How to proof something, what is almost sold out     even before I bought those some ones.

[GM-Cat]

@puddingkip

"If you disagree with the current price, make a countersuggestion with your proof."

 

Sure, but you see the last suggestions. 178 upvotes  --- no thank you, I wont try --- and that is the point.

Something is not going right with this system.

Its working great for 99% and I love it , but I think if there is an option to get the 99,3 or 99,5% why not talk about it.

 

Well, maybe 178x people will have arguments again and 16x people are positive (like the vote result you can see)

But math is a bit... 

 

But 4 trades left (8 before my buying) --- and no one is selling? And ~30 sellers on the steam market, ONLY.

Why those 178 know the price? There is not as many activity as voters on this.

This is manipulating the economy in my eyes.

[TraL]

Keys is 2.15 now in euro :'(