Teh Betmon Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 if u want logic go for buddism sorry, it might be detailed but it still doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klappar Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Don't ask why. God works in mysterious ways. How people would belive this then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tron Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Welcome back i'd understand that god should have prescience upon things that isn't necessary to know as humans.. e.g why god created the world in the first place.. but why would god hide important things that we should know to worship him.. shouldn't it be clear ? there are also facts about jesus and his miracles in other religion's holy books.. but moses, abraham and many others had their miracles too.. why jesus was chosen to be the son of god instead of them ? if god was omnipotent.. couldn't he forgive all the humans without letting his son die? Thanks for the welcome back. I believe the Bible is more than enough proof that God exists. Jesus had to be devine or in other words, perfect. He had to be the descendants from a certain line of people etc. etc. (it gets very complicated). God wanted his son to be perfect. There is a Bible verse regarding that, which you can go search up. Like I said, that is how God chose to work. This is probaly the most discouraging part of Christianity, but if thats how God works, so be it. shh, you're starting to make sense, it will scare them away. I wont be scared away mate. I will try answer questions with the most of my ability. If I cannot answer, I will say so. If I have to agree with you, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh Betmon Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 I believe the Bible is more than enough proof that God exists. by that said, i'll ask you to answer the second question in this thread How can you trust the bible if there is various versions of it and was written years after jesus death ? doesn't that mean that the first author of the bible was the founder of christianity ? add to that.. does christians have a valid proof that the bible is true quotes from jesus ? Jesus had to be devine or in other words, perfect. isn't jesus a human.. and all humans are mistakers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whopz Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 is there proof the quran is real book or just a figment of everyone's imagination today? what is love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh Betmon Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 is there proof the quran is real book or just a figment of everyone's imagination today? what is love? baby don't hurt me as far as i know, yes.. islam is a religion that is backed with reasoning and common sense.. i remember answering a similar question.. so i'll just quote it here. arab (muslims and non-muslims) scientists are studying the quran until now.. they confirm that quran is the most accurate, faultless book.. written by poets? no, back then arabic was perfect, there were almost no errors in their speech, but still the quran isn't only poems and rhymes, it contains science that people weren't even close to discover it. edited? no, quran was written during the prophet's life.. the prophet himself was illiterate,, quran was carefully carried over generations and people until now still memorizes the quran. add to that.. quran has only one version and nobody could compete the quran over the centuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tron Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 by that said, i'll ask you to answer the second question in this thread How can you trust the bible if there is various versions of it and was written years after jesus death ? doesn't that mean that the first author of the bible was the founder of christianity ? add to that.. does christians have a valid proof that the bible is true quotes from jesus ? Only the New Testament was written after Jesus' death; the Old Testament was written before Jesus came. Usually the different versions of the Bible are very similar, thus you can consider it trustworthy as they all contain the same information and messages. There are many authors of the Bible. The Bible is a book of books, if you understand that. I dont know who started the Bible, however. And as always, Christians have no proof that the Bible contains true quotes from Jesus. Only Christians that existed during Jesus' eras would know. isn't jesus a human.. and all humans are mistakers ? I like to think of Jesus as Superman. He looks human, but can do much more things than humans can do. Jesus is Gods son, so I would classify Him as holy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splat Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Why are you guys using logic in an argument about religion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gent♥ Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I like to think of Jesus as Superman. That's actually quite clever. Except I'm awaiting the imminent non-humorous observation / 'counter-argument' of 'yeh they's both fickional rekt m8' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimes Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 That's actually quite clever. Except I'm awaiting the imminent non-humorous observation / 'counter-argument' of 'yeh they's both fickional rekt m8' they're both fictional #rekt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminal Inhalation Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 they're both fictional #rekt That's actually quite clever. Except I'm awaiting the imminent non-humorous observation / 'counter-argument' of 'yeh they's both fickional rekt m8' If you ask me, god only exists because we mentally created a superior being for our own benefits. God(s) exists because we demanded a meaning to life, so we forced one onto ourselves and created religion and created a supernatural being as our idol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Radiated Banana Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I'm athiest, but I had to study the bible for school... First question is about God If Mary was a human and jesus was a human doesn't that make the father(god) also a human ? if so, how can he become a god with a weak human body ? Second is about the bible How can you trust the bible if there is various versions of it and was written years after jesus death ? doesn't that mean that the first author of the bible was the founder of christianity ? Third is about the community If you saw a christian doing drugs or anything wrong and when you asked him why he answers "jesus died for our sins" is this acceptable and what will your reaction be about that ? 1. I think this has something to do with the trinity, father, son, holy spirit. And to answer the first part of the question if you are a certain species, your offspring doesnt have to be the same species, think like a liger son, but being a tiger mother, i think that can apply here. The second part is, humans were supposedly made in the image of god i think so... image doesnt mean physical strength or weakness or wahtever. 2. Well, there is really only 1 real bible, which is written in hebrew i think, after that were just translations, the translations are different cuz 1 word can translate into multiple. I think a few years ago some people found a some holy scripture from the bible dating back the like 200 AD or something and compared it to the recent copy we have, it was 99.9% similar. the 0.1% was stuff like accidental marks. 3. I doubt chrisitians will find this acceptable cuz u know, its just wrong. I think a christian will give him some talk about what jesus did and how he wouldnt want this bla bla bla Then again, i did fail my bible unit, so iunno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www. Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 alertttt: tf2 players have evolved to question religion gabe must terminate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tron Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 alertttt: tf2 players have evolved to question religion gabe must terminate I find it ironic that some atheists on these type of forums are always talking about God, especially in threads like these that are asking Christians to answer questions. But no, you guys just interfere. I understand your belief and I totally accept that, however I dont tolerate insult. Seriously, why cant you guys let me be and answer the questions on this thread. I knew this would happen, and with that, I will stop talking about religion as a whole on these forums. Please notice how I said some. Not all you guys are bad =) Edit: Yeah, I wasnt talking about u Captain. I just replied to your comment because I thought it was suitable for my response =) Thanks for ur understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www. Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I find it ironic that some atheists on these type of forums are always talking about God, especially in threads like these that are asking Christians to answer questions. But no, you guys just interfere. I understand your belief and I totally accept that, however I dont tolerate insult. Seriously, why cant you guys let me be and answer the questions on this thread. I knew this would happen, and with that, I will stop talking about religion as a whole on these forums. Please notice how I said some. Not all you guys are bad =) i'm not atheist my friend, but i understand ur logic. i dont want to be considered agnostic but i guess you could say i technically am, there are too many questions out there that humans cant provide a truthful answer to and ive accepted that. i hope you can take what i said as a simple and general joke in an objective sense, ty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splat Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 why do you guys believe in something that is impossible to see, impossible to hear, impossible to smell, touch or taste? there's no difference between believing in something that might be there and something that isn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh Betmon Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 why do you guys believe in something that is impossible to see, impossible to hear, impossible to smell, touch or taste? there's no difference between believing in something that might be there and something that isn't there. If you ask me, god only exists because we mentally created a superior being for our own benefits.God(s) exists because we demanded a meaning to life, so we forced one onto ourselves and created religion and created a supernatural being as our idol. i can tell you that ancient egyptians didn't exist.. but what about the pyramids and mummies, were they made up too ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh Betmon Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 -snip- I appreciate your reply.. but i'm really looking for answers from real christians.. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whopz Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 i can tell you that ancient egyptians didn't exist.. but what about the pyramids and mummies, were they made up too ? troll level: maximum you can't tell us that because there is irrefutable, absolute and undeniable proof that they existed. real proof, objects, languages, skeletons etc. you're being overtly philosophical to the point where you are making absolutely no sense. you selectively apply your logic to cherry-picked nonsensical arguments. stop trolling or make more sense. then you will be closer to the answers you seek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heated Bread Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Egyptian ruins are not proof of the existence of ra, greek temples are not proof of the existence of zeus, viking ruins and relics are not proof of the existence of odin, the vedas are not proof of the existence of shiva, and the tipitaka is not proof of the existence of the buddha. But yet somehow, the talmud/bible/qur'an must be proof of the existence of god/allah. Makes perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh Betmon Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 troll level: maximum you can't tell us that because there is irrefutable, absolute and undeniable proof that they existed. real proof, objects, languages, skeletons etc. you're being overtly philosophical to the point where you are making absolutely no sense. you selectively apply your logic to cherry-picked nonsensical arguments. stop trolling or make more sense. then you will be closer to the answers you seek. objects --> old churches and mosques writings--> quran, bible skeletons--> graves real proof--> there would be no challenge if anyone was able to see the god.. but signs do exist yes, it makes sense.. if these "myths" doesn't have any effect to the current life.. then i would personally say its false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimes Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 i can tell you that ancient egyptians didn't exist.. but what about the pyramids and mummies, were they made up too ? objects --> old churches and mosques writings--> quran, bible skeletons--> graves real proof--> there would be no challenge if anyone was able to see the god.. but signs do exist yes, it makes sense.. if these "myths" doesn't have any effect to the current life.. then i would personally say its false. facepalm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaveboard SKREECH))) Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I don't know this thread confuses me a lot. Gods didn't create humans, humans created gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedarium Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 facepalm My thoughts exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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