Kejsumaru™ Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I'm not sure if this has been addressed yet, but I have a proposal for backpack.tf that would greatly benefit the purpose of the voting system.My proposal is that when voters vote for/against a suggestion, they should be required to provide at least a one sentence explanation as to why they voted for/against the suggestion. It doesn't have to be for every item that gets priced, but for more important suggestions, especially bud, key, and ref suggestions. It could benefit to learn why somebody votes, so we can separate blind votes from votes with an actual purpose.For example, on the majority of key suggestions, the voting score lies at 50-60%. This is mostly because people despise the rise of keys, and downvote immediately when they see a suggestion for the raising of the price. It's difficult to pass suggestions like these with positive community feedback when a large part of the voting body is 12 year old children who completely miss the purpose of the voting system, and don't even glance at provided proof (i.e http://i.imgur.com/s40IJIq.png). If we were to add a feature that asks for why a voter chooses his vote on a suggestion, we could separate proof-based and reasonable votes from blind "stop raising keys!" votes, and account for relevant votes rather than hate-driven blind votes. Adding this to bud, key, and ref suggestions could improve the amount of constructive criticism and proof analysis and hopefully decrease the amount of opinion-based off task claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reflex Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Because mods don't have any better things to do than read hundreds of pointless comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kejsumaru™ Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 Because mods don't have any better things to do than read hundreds of pointless comments Only a few hundred to a few thousand I had that in mind, thats why I thought it should only be for important suggestions, not EVERYTHING that gets priced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawtch Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Only a few hundred to a few thousand I had that in mind, thats why I thought it should only be for important suggestions, not EVERYTHING that gets priced. some already post comments on why they downvoted and they usually go something like "keys are rising too fast, downvote because i think they should be 5 ref again" which makes anyone reading it just a little bit dumber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoDoRiN Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Actually I find this suggestion could have quite a potential. When you click either votes, there should be a *square* below it saying a quick explanation why you did. Maybe just like 1-2 sentences. Longer ones should go to comments. Then there can be a separate page (like some hyperlink below the voting *square* or something) with pages of comments why they voted against it or supporting it, so not only mods can view it but users can too. Of course there can be anonymous settings and all. Overall, I like the idea. *stupid sphere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Radiated Banana Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Noooooo too much work for voters and mods. You can just say stuff in the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoDoRiN Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Noooooo too much work for voters and mods. You can just say stuff in the comments. I don't see why not. You're not forced (and I guess mods too) to look at their reasoning, just completely optional to read, just like comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knavesmith Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Actually I find this suggestion could have quite a potential. When you click either votes, there should be a box below it saying a quick explanation why you did. Maybe just like 1-2 sentences. Longer ones should go to comments. Then there can be a separate page (like some hyperlink below the voting box or something) with pages of comments why they voted against it or supporting it, so not only mods can view it but users can too. Of course there can be anonymous settings and all. Overall, I like the idea. *stupid sphere FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators OverduePixels Posted May 17, 2014 Administrators Share Posted May 17, 2014 Because mods don't have any better things to do than read hundreds of pointless comments Nobody is forcing anyone to read comments whether pointless or not. Do you read all the comments posted on suggestions now? Of course not. I believe this is indeed a good idea to look upon on. Instead of removing the voting thing from the front page, we could just implement this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenging Flame Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 This would interrupt my long streaks of blind upvoting certain people. NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWarlord Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 This would interrupt my long streaks of blind upvoting certain people. NO Well it should only be for keys/other currency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators fisk Posted May 19, 2014 Administrators Share Posted May 19, 2014 Not happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubei Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 No way requiring text input will work, or will be wanted. Now an OPTIONAL poll that pops for why you voted down might work as long as it is hidden from the rabble until the voting is closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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