-Carlito- Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I got scammed out of 2 pure buds. This is what I sent to Steam support : So basically. I had 2 earbuds for sale on tf2outpost.com. One guy : TweetyBird http://steamcommunity.com/id/LikeMoKo/ adds me and asks me how much I want for them. I say 19 tf2 keys each. "okay". He has a weird request though : he wants to use a friend of mine as a middleman so he knows my buds won't go away. I'm like : Okay. Whatever. A lot of people do things that don't really make sense on tf2outpost so I'm not suspicious. Middlemen are useless in direct transactions but if that's what he wants, I don't see anything wrong. So I involve my friend Corbac, which I trust, so I don't see anything wrong with letting my items in his bp : http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198043755694/ and I link his profile to Tweetybird. My friend tells me that Tweetybird added him, I tell him to accept, he does, and then Tweetybird creates a steam conversation with 3 people : my friend Corbac, Tweetybird himself, and me. Tweetybird says in the conversation : "Okay, trade with him now". I receive a trade request from Corbac, I accept it and I put my 2 buds in the trade, I accept. Tweetybird then asks me if I have other things for sale, like my unusual hats. I say that yes, I do, and he asks me how much I want for them, agrees with my price and I receive trade requests from Corbac again. At this point I'm talking to Corbac on mic on skype and I ask him why he sends me trade requests before anyone even mentions I have to put my items in his backpack. Corbac on skype tells me that he isn't sending me any trade request. He doesn't know that there is a conversation with 3 people including "him" in it. I now realize that the guy I gave my buds to a few minutes ago was not Corbac but an account made to look exactly like Corbac's account. This is this account's ID : http://steamcommunity.com/id/LingLingAj . It has probably changed now because this guy apparently steals from a lot of people. I ask for my buds back in the 3-people-conversation but nothing happens, of course. Corbac then tells me the guy added him to his friends (with the account he used to fake identity), and that this account now resembles mine. It has my avatar and my name but is private. Corbac creates a conversation with 3 people : me, himself, and the account that looks like mine, asking wtf. The scammer account leaves the conversation and deletes us both from his friendslist. So I made you a shitload of screenshots and links. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19294091 -> This is the trade from which the guy probably added me. The buds involved are probably the 1st and the last in this list (so you can get the exact items IDs) http://imgur.com/TGoZSoT,wA02uSC,gZZ3SGt#0 -> These are the 3 screenshots (click first, second and third image on top of the picture you see) I took from : the conversation with tweetybird alone, then another picture of the conversation with the conversation created when tweetybird invited my "friend" (= fake account) in the conversation. I will also attach pictures with the tool you guys put at my disposal but maybe you preferred already hosted pictures. I give you again the links for : My own account : http://steamcommunity.com/id/carlitoftw/ Tweetybird's account to add me (I didn't trade with this one at any point) : http://steamcommunity.com/id/LikeMoKo/ The account he used to impersonate my friend (that's the account that probably has my items but I can't tell as it's private - but it's the one that I traded my earbuds to thinking it was my friend's): http://steamcommunity.com/id/LingLingAj/ And finally the account of my friend Corbac if that's of any help : http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198043755694/ I also added in the attachments a screenshot of the account used for impersonation when it impersonated my friend Corbac. I now notice that when he did that there was a point in the end of the name, so the 2 of them weren't exactly identical. Anyway, I hope I can get my items back and this guy banned or something. Thank you for your time, I hope I'm not boring you with all that story. I estimate that here, it wasn't my fault, but the whole trade was intended to fool me and so it is really a scam and not just a trade that I regret, and I hope you can agree with me. If you guys have any idea of what else to do, or if it happened to any of you, and how it went, if they got their items back, etc, I would appreciate if you'd post Thanks for reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ness-PK Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 steam support doesn't deal with scamming and won't replace your items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperNati0n Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 yeah i can see how that went wrong, this TweetyBird guy added a fake Corbac (your friend) to the chat and he traded you, all i could say is to have talked to your real Corbac in a private chat away from the group at the same time, thats what i would have done anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PootisWorker Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Try SteamRep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Carlito- Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 Do you guys thinks they'll never answer or they'll close my ticket ? Also what do you mean try SteamRep ? what can they do for me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HusKy Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Steam support won't give you your items back unless someone else accessed your account. SteamRep can mark the person with scammer tag in a couple months and that's about it. And you shouldn't use vanity URLs, because those can be "disabled", e.g. first link in your post. ( this one: http://steamcommunity.com/id/LikeMoKo/ ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PootisWorker Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Do you guys thinks they'll never answer or they'll close my ticket ? Also what do you mean try SteamRep ? what can they do for me ? They can mark the guys. Should help...somewhat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jazz Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Steam support can't help with scammed items, only hijacked items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jazz Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 http://www.tf2confidential.com/phishing-hacking-malicious-activity/#more-1159 Yeah this scam attempt should've been spread sooner to prevent people from getting scammed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♠Derpeh♤ Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Do you guys thinks they'll never answer or they'll close my ticket ? Also what do you mean try SteamRep ? what can they do for me ? Steam wont do anything, it's basically, your account, your items your responsibility. If your account was hijacked then they will restore your bp but other then that nothing :S Steam rep will basically get the scammer banned from nearly all community run servers/websites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Carlito- Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198125725946 Indeed. He changed his custom IRL. This is his real profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshrinker Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 That guy also added me to buy buds, asked if I had Unusuals and how much for it. I said "I have ten Unusuals and I want 290 keys" and he promptly accepted the price and asked me "how could he know I'm not getting the money and running away". By that time I saw his Steamrep page and called him out. Pretty ridiculous if I must say. Always doubt if things are too easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Carlito- Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 Well here it wasn't that easy, I had buds for sale for 19 keys, anyone could have bought that. I began suspicious when he mentioned unusuals but it was already too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzybutt Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Someone tried this with me once. He joined my server and traded me, impersonating the person I share a Something Special for Someone Special with.He didn't add me though, so it was kind of obvious. As it would have been anyway, due to his judicious use of the word "Bro" and the fact he didn't know any French or Spanish when I asked.Don't think anything ever came of my report, he changed his name multiple times and made his profile private, but I'd reported him BEFORE I let him know I wasn't that stupid and he scarpered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Carlito- Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 Well that's not the same thing then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spherical B0X Guardian Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 The easiest way to determine the real or the fake friend is to also have a conversation of both your own to know which one is getting talked to by the scammer. That way, you can monitor things quite easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F CHARLIE Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I got scammed out of 2 pure buds. This is what I sent to Steam support :If you guys have any idea of what else to do, or if it happened to any of you, and how it went, if they got their items back, etc, I would appreciate if you'd post :)Thanks for reading. Why were you not suspicious? He was paying keys. There would never be a need for a middleman. I can see this becoming a new thing. I will often get phishers who add me at night when I am not on. I accept the next morning but they are not on so I send a messege saying hi. Latter they send a phishing link and I report them. They could change thier profile at a latter point to look like someone already on my list and use this to converse with me to get me to check out an image. Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Carlito- Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 Indeed there was no need for a middleman but you gotta admit that people with IQs inferior to 70 on outpost are legion, and as buds were going down I was more than happy to sell them for full price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtn Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 YEAH A FUCKING IDIOT TRIED TO DO THE SAME TECHNIQUE WITH ME! be careful with any weirdo talk from stranges on steamI though it was very weird to have to choose a friend being a middleman for the trade from the 1st minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spherical B0X Guardian Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Uhhh, these scammers really want pixelated hats but usually never get away easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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