good one a real knee slapper that one is anyone who plays a valve game knows that asking valve to do anything is a huge task

I get what your saying here, Slam. I feel like if we give up that's when we lose. I'm all for moving forward, Spoon. It's just as I mentioned before. We're not asking for much. We just want our game to be playable and this bot crisis to finally be done with. If we stay complacent, we'll end up with the eventual death of our game.

this is a losing fight anything that fixings tf2 will also kill it in chess there is a position called Zugzwang meaning: no matter what you/opponent does will be bad thats kinda what we are in rn the only ways to fix tf2 will also hurt it a lot but if valve doesn't do anything things will get worse   Russell as much as we love this game its not worth it, the game is so old and the engine is older (source was made in 2004, its nearly as old as me I'm in my 20s) there is no fix to this that won't negatively effect use as well the best we can hope for is a new team fortress game as a whole and all we can do is enjoy this game while we can  holding on hurts more then letting go   I got a lot of good memories with this game and this game has helped me through some really dark times in my life I met some of my best friends from this game this is 1 of the few multiplayer games i deeply enjoy being someone that doesn't like multiplayer games all that much with the only other multiplayer games i deeply enjoy being probably gta 5 online, payday 2, and smash bros and thats it   all good things come to an end and the end of the day and all we can do is move forward and enjoy what we remember and embrace new and good things tf2 ending is probably a blessing, some of us will look for new things and we might find something that we love or change us for the better    

Valve is not the same company you grew up on. They do not care about you. They care about your money. Every time another "#savetf2" event happens, the constant bombardment of shouting at Valve just adds another slide to an ever-growing corporate powerpoint presentation that advocates for abandoning TF2, taking on short-term bad publicity, to reduce bad PR in the long run.   I don't mean to be pessimistic, but nothing's going to happen from this save for maybe another "we heard you!" tweet. Living off false hope is worse than accepting the truth and moving on.

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