Tasty Salamanders Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 With the recently added support for dual-quality items, it is worth pointing out that previously there were some items that were always dual-quality, as a result they were previously priced as single quality versions, since there wasn't actually any single quality versions to conflict with them. But now that they can properly be priced, the prices should be moved from the old pages to the new ones. I imagine this needs to be done one item at a time, so I doubt it is going to be done overnight, but still a list of all items that need to be done would probably help. Scream Fortress 2014 cosmetics Spliting this up into subsections because there are 51 of them.All classHaunted Hooded Haunter to Strange HauntedHaunted Li'l Dutchman to Strange HauntedHaunted Ghost of Spies Checked Past to Strange HauntedHaunted Kritz or Treat Canteen to Strange HauntedScoutHaunted Nugget Noggin to Strange HauntedHaunted Fowl Fists to Strange Haunted Haunted Talon Trotters to Strange HauntedHaunted Head Hunter to Strange HauntedHaunted Claws And Infect to Strange HauntedHaunted Crazy Legs to Strange HauntedSniperHaunted Marsupial Man to Strange HauntedHaunted Mr. Mundee's Wild Ride to Strange HauntedHaunted Marsupial Muzzle to Strange HauntedHaunted Roo Rippers to Strange HauntedHaunted Kanga Kickers to Strange HauntedHaunted Cranial Conspiracy to Strange HauntedHaunted Scaly Scrapers to Strange HauntedSoldierHaunted Battle Bird to Strange HauntedHaunted Hellhunter's Headpiece to Strange HauntedHaunted Supernatural Stalker to Strange HauntedHaunted Ghoul Gibbin' Gear to Strange HauntedDemomanHaunted Eyeborg to Strange HauntedHaunted Mannhattan Project to Strange HauntedHaunted Forgotten King's Restless Head to Strange HauntedHaunted Forgotten King's Pauldrons to Strange HauntedMedicHaunted Hundkopf to Strange HauntedHaunted Kriegsmaschine-9000 to Strange HauntedHaunted Herzensbrecher to Strange HauntedHaunted Vampire Makeover to Strange HauntedHaunted Vampiric Vesture to Strange HauntedHaunted Templar's Spirit to Strange HauntedHaunted Wings of Purity to Strange HauntedHeavy Haunted Immobile Suit to Strange Haunted Haunted Minsk Beef to Strange HauntedHaunted Bull Locks to Strange HauntedHaunted Bone-Cut Belt to Strange HauntedPyroHaunted Creature's Grin to Strange HauntedHaunted Lollichop Licker to Strange HauntedHaunted Mr. Juice to Strange HauntedHaunted Vampyro to Strange HauntedHaunted Arsonist Apparatus to Strange HauntedHaunted Moccasin Machinery to Strange HauntedSpyHaunted Facepeeler to Strange HauntedHaunted Nightmare Hunter to Strange HauntedHaunted Rogue's Rabbit to Strange HauntedHaunted Shadowman's Shade to Strange HauntedEngineerHaunted Beep Man to Strange Haunted Haunted Garden Bristles to Strange HauntedHaunted Iron Fist to Strange HauntedHaunted Soul of 'Spensers Past to Strange HauntedHaunted Tiny Texan to Strange HauntedStrange NormalsNormal Scattergun to Strange NormalNormal Sniper Rifle to Strange NormalNormal Australium Grenade Launcher to Strange Normal AustraliumNormal Grenade Launcher to Strange NormalNormal Stickybomb Launcher to Strange NormalNormal Medi Gun to Strange NormalNormal Minigun to Strange NormalNormal Flame Thrower to Strange Normal Strange Uniques (can't currently be priced due to naming conflicts)Unique Carbonado Botkiller Scattergun Mk.I to Strange UniqueUnique Australium Scattergun to Strange UniqueUnique Australium Sniper Rifle to Strange Unique I think that is all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBro Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 That'd be nice with the Normal quality weapons but I'm not 100% sure it is easy to do. One of the mod's (I think polar) said Valve doesnt make it easy with dual-quality. For example a strange unusual is way different from a unique weapon with a strangifier added. So I'm not sure how weird Valve made the Normal weapons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasty Salamanders Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 That'd be nice with the Normal quality weapons but I'm not 100% sure it is easy to do. One of the mod's (I think polar) said Valve doesnt make it easy with dual-quality. For example a strange unusual is way different from a unique weapon with a strangifier added. So I'm not sure how weird Valve made the Normal weapons It should be easy enough to do, support for dual-quality items was already added here not to long ago, to use one of the Normal quality weapons as an example: http://backpack.tf/stats/Strange Normal/Scattergun/Tradable/Craftable And moving prices from one page to another is something they did before, so that shouldn't be an issue either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cares Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 It should be easy enough to do, support for dual-quality items was already added here not to long ago, to use one of the Normal quality weapons as an example: http://backpack.tf/stats/Strange-Normal/Scattergun/Tradable/Craftable And moving prices from one page to another is something they did before, so that shouldn't be an issue either. There is no mechanism to do this right now, but it could be added at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasty Salamanders Posted March 26, 2017 Author Share Posted March 26, 2017 There is no mechanism to do this right now, but it could be added at some point. Huh, weren't the prices for the Summer Shades and Treasure Hats moved from the untradable pages to the tradable pages when Valve finally made them tradable? Or am I misremembering? Or is it that when it comes to item quality it is sort of stored differently? Or is it just an elevated quality thing? On a different note, you said that Strange Uniques can't be priced due naming conflict with regular Stranges. However would I be wrong in assuming this naming conflict doesn't exist with Strange Normals and Strange Haunteds? In which case if prices can't be moved over it would still be ok for people to make price suggestions on the dual-quality pages and then have the prices deleted for the single-quality versions as those suggestions are accepted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cares Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Huh, weren't the prices for the Summer Shades and Treasure Hats moved from the untradable pages to the tradable pages when Valve finally made them tradable? Or am I misremembering? Or is it that when it comes to item quality it is sort of stored differently? Or is it just an elevated quality thing? On a different note, you said that Strange Uniques can't be priced due naming conflict with regular Stranges. However would I be wrong in assuming this naming conflict doesn't exist with Strange Normals and Strange Haunteds? In which case if prices can't be moved over it would still be ok for people to make price suggestions on the dual-quality pages and then have the prices deleted for the single-quality versions as those suggestions are accepted? Because right now there's no way to migrate a price to an elevated otherwise equivalent item. And yes, the problem only exists with Unusuals and Uniques as we trim the quality from those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasty Salamanders Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 So I noticed that some Strange Uniques now include the "The" like they would on Steam, example: Strange Unique Eviction Notice. They also now lack a price on their page. Meanwhile Uniques that lack a "The" and their respective Strange Unique versions also lack it, for example: Strange Unique Scattergun. They continue to have the Strange Price on their page. I'm guessing that Strange Uniques with a "The" are now priceable and ones without it still aren't, or am I wrong? Also, while it doesn't matter right at the moment since the only accepted price suggestions for dual-quality items are for Strange Unusuals, but when suggestions for Strange Haunteds and Strange Normals start to build up and be accepted the prices for the single quality versions will become invalid, is there any real plan to deal with those at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cares Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I don't think there's any real way for us to accept price suggestions for items without the proper name prefix because we'd have to diverge from Steam's naming, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasty Salamanders Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 So it appears moving prices is now an option since as a result of Happyedits's price suggestions a number of items got moved over to their correct dual-quality pages today. It is possible to get the rest of them moved over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woifi The Viking Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Yes this has been added. Feel free to create a list of items so we can go over them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasty Salamanders Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 Just now, Woifilicious said: Yes this has been added. Feel free to create a list of items so we can go over them. Already done, it was included in my original post, I just updated it to cross out the ones that have been moved already or repriced since dual-quality support was added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Teeny Tiny Cat Posted October 10, 2017 Administrators Share Posted October 10, 2017 48 minutes ago, Tasty Salamanders said: Already done, it was included in my original post, I just updated it to cross out the ones that have been moved already or repriced since dual-quality support was added. I've worked through the list. If you find anymore, feel free to stick them in here and tag me or woifi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasty Salamanders Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 36 minutes ago, Teeny Tiny Cat said: I've worked through the list. If you find anymore, feel free to stick them in here and tag me or woifi. Thanks @Teeny Tiny Cat, also I just realised I missed the Haunted Mannhattan Project in the list (I accidentally listed the Supernatural Stalker twice). Also I don't think those price/suggestion moves for the Strange Uniques worked as intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Teeny Tiny Cat Posted October 10, 2017 Administrators Share Posted October 10, 2017 52 minutes ago, Tasty Salamanders said: Also I don't think those price/suggestion moves for the Strange Uniques worked as intended. Not quite sure why it's done that, have informed devs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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