ℕ Hilbert-WARing Theorem™ Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Hey, was recently offered "massive overpay" in Steam/Origin Game Keys for an Australium Blutsauger: http://imgur.com/vgevzY9 His offer included Fallout 4 in addition to other games, which is $59.99 USD in itself, the equivalent of 24 Keys. Seems a bit sketchy, the classic case of "too good to be true". Heard that some Keys are fraudulently obtained via stolen credit cards etc. His account is pretty inactive and he was previously marked on Steamrep for abusing a trading exploit, although he has since appealed that ban. He claims that Keys are unable to be revoked once redeemed and are "tested for legitimacy", but there may be a catch/oversight. His account: https://steamrep.com/?id=76561198063479251 Would appreciate a second opinion on whether it is safe to trust the method/this trader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFFIRMATIVE Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Never accept steam keys as payment, accept games only if they are as a tradable steam copy in his inventory. Yes, they could've gotten the keys such as the fallout one with a fraudulent credit card or some other means which were against the terms and conditions of the website he purchased it and thus there's a chance that the game could be removed from the owner's library sooner or later because of that, which the owner is you in this case. It doesn't matter if the key is redeemed, if the purchase doesn't respect the terms and conditions then they have the right to revoke it from your library, even if you weren't the one that purchased it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zirune Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 He claims that Keys are unable to be revoked once redeemed That is false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buy my mixtape fam Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Don't do it. The fact alone that he's giving you $100 worth of stuff for a $15 item should send alarm bells ringing. Plus, Steam gifts can be refunded by the buyer at anytime, so he can deactivate the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Reference: https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamGameSwap/comments/3rx4z0/psa_fallout_4_scams/ Report his posts, he'll probably get banned. They don't allow CD keys (for good reason) and they'll usually ban for overly sketchy behavior. Also, his Outpost listing is sketchy - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27735650 This is a very common method of scamming/laundering used by career criminals/fraudsters. What happens is a scammer buys a huge collection CD keys for newly released AAA titles on stolen credit cards, then quickly sells the keys below market value for anything he can get. Once the owner of the credit card sees unauthorized charges on their card, they dispute it with their bank charging back all the purchases. The CD keys are then revoked, and anyone who redeemed one, despite having installed and played the game, loses it from their library and may have their account suspended for fraud. Meanwhile, the scammer is long gone with the items traded for the CD key, and probably cashed out. A couple red flags here are that he's eager to offer a newly released AAA title, and that he's overpaying with it. Overpaying in a trust trade like that is 99% likely a scam; like you said, if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. Any time a new and sought after AAA title comes out, you should also be extremely suspicious of anyone trying to sell it, especially if cheap. The caution is probably another red flag to be suspicious of him as a trader, but it's for an unrelated and different type of offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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