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Hey, thinking about getting a new computer.

 

this is the specs:

 

http://nz.pcpartpicker.com/p/YprHbv

[PCPartPicker part list]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YprHbv) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YprHbv/by_merchant/)(
 
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54460) | $174.88 @ OutletPC 
**CPU Cooler** | [Antec KUHLER H2O 650 Liquid CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-cpu-cooler-kuhlerh2o650) | $46.49 @ OutletPC 
**Motherboard** | [ASRock H81 Pro BTC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h81probtc) | $51.99 @ Newegg 
**Memory** | [Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmv8gx3m1a1333c9) | $77.99 @ Amazon 
**Storage** | [Hitachi Travelstar 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/hitachi-internal-hard-drive-0j26223) |-
**Video Card** | [Asus GeForce GT 730 2GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gt730sl2gd3brk) |-
**Case** | [Zalman Z3 Plus White ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/zalman-case-z3pluswhite) | $126.74 @ Amazon 
**Power Supply** | [Corsair VS 350W ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cp9020052ww) |-
**Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615) | $89.98 @ OutletPC 
**Sound Card** | [Asus Xonar DGX 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-sound-card-xonardgx) | $27.49 @ SuperBiiz 
**Wireless Network Adapter** | [Asus PCE-N15 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-wireless-network-card-pcen15) | $24.98 @ OutletPC 
 | | **Total**
 | Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $620.54
 | Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-17 19:11 EST-0500 |
 
Thats it, just need opinions, its all nzd, can convert to usd if u want.
 
Thanks~ra6it
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The stock cooler is fine, a cooler master hyper 212 if your anal about noise. 

Also a GT730 is barely better than integrated. 

You don't need a sound card. 

And those are all USD prices. 

 

Also, for NZ you need to bump your budget...$600 is about enough for a potato.

 

Anything cheaper than $900 is a serious potato, and even $900 doesn't get you much. 

 
CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($165.00 @ PC Force) 
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($74.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($100.05 @ PB Technologies) 
Video Card: Asus Radeon R7 260X 2GB DirectCU II Video Card  ($180.32 @ Wiseguys) 
Case: Zalman Z3 Plus White ATX Mid Tower Case  ($56.35 @ PB Technologies) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($139.14 @ PB Technologies) 
Total: $903.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-18 13:38 NZDT+1300
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Another NZer? haven't seen one of us in a while :P. Also would this be able to run CS:GO well? I have a budget around this and need a better pc :P

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Another NZer? haven't seen one of us in a while :P. Also would this be able to run CS:GO well? I have a budget around this and need a better pc :P

Whats your budget? 

 

/csgo/d2/tf2 can all literally run on a potato though 

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Whats your budget? 

 

/csgo/d2/tf2 can all literally run on a potato though 

My computer cant handle csgo on lowest everything, also tf2 runs at 12 fps :/ my budget would be around 600-750

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My computer cant handle csgo on lowest everything, also tf2 runs at 12 fps :/ my budget would be around 600-750

yea my current computer is running csgo lowest settings and lowest res so i am sick of low graphics.

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The stock cooler is fine, a cooler master hyper 212 if your anal about noise. 

Also a GT730 is barely better than integrated. 

You don't need a sound card. 

And those are all USD prices. 

 

Also, for NZ you need to bump your budget...$600 is about enough for a potato.

 

Anything cheaper than $900 is a serious potato, and even $900 doesn't get you much. 

 
CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($165.00 @ PC Force) 
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($74.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($100.05 @ PB Technologies) 
Video Card: Asus Radeon R7 260X 2GB DirectCU II Video Card  ($180.32 @ Wiseguys) 
Case: Zalman Z3 Plus White ATX Mid Tower Case  ($56.35 @ PB Technologies) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($139.14 @ PB Technologies) 
Total: $903.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-18 13:38 NZDT+1300

 

I was sorta wanting a quad core and an i5 at the least, just to run some of the later games aswell.

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Another NZer? haven't seen one of us in a while :P. Also would this be able to run CS:GO well? I have a budget around this and need a better pc :P

ayye i have never seen an nzer on this forum xD

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I was sorta wanting a quad core and an i5 at the least, just to run some of the later games aswell.

ayye i have never seen an nzer on this forum xD

You're going to need to bump your budget to like $1200~ if you want an i5 and a decent gpu. And an i3 + decent gpu > i5 + shit gpu.

 

 

My computer cant handle csgo on lowest everything, also tf2 runs at 12 fps :/ my budget would be around 600-750

The only concern I'd have is that PCPP only lists Haswell Refresh i3's which may require a bios update on a non h97 board (which could be an issue -- so you should either see if any NZ stores have an i3-4130, or get an H97 board)

 
CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($165.00 @ PC Force) 
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($74.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Memory: Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($52.90 @ PB Technologies) 
Case: Zalman Z3 Plus White ATX Mid Tower Case  ($56.35 @ PB Technologies) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($139.14 @ PB Technologies) 
Total: $659.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-18 14:05 NZDT+1300
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You're going to need to bump your budget to like $1200~ if you want an i5 and a decent gpu. And an i3 + decent gpu > i5 + shit gpu.

 

 

The only concern I'd have is that PCPP only lists Haswell Refresh i3's which may require a bios update on a non h97 board (which could be an issue -- so you should either see if any NZ stores have an i3-4130, or get an H97 board)

 
CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($165.00 @ PC Force) 
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($74.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Memory: Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($52.90 @ PB Technologies) 
Case: Zalman Z3 Plus White ATX Mid Tower Case  ($56.35 @ PB Technologies) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($139.14 @ PB Technologies) 
Total: $659.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-18 14:05 NZDT+1300

 

Graphics card?

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The stock cooler is fine, a cooler master hyper 212 if your anal about noise. 

Also a GT730 is barely better than integrated. 

You don't need a sound card. 

And those are all USD prices. 

 

Also, for NZ you need to bump your budget...$600 is about enough for a potato.

 

Anything cheaper than $900 is a serious potato, and even $900 doesn't get you much. 

 
CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($165.00 @ PC Force) 
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($74.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($100.05 @ PB Technologies) 
Video Card: Asus Radeon R7 260X 2GB DirectCU II Video Card  ($180.32 @ Wiseguys) 
Case: Zalman Z3 Plus White ATX Mid Tower Case  ($56.35 @ PB Technologies) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($139.14 @ PB Technologies) 
Total: $903.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-18 13:38 NZDT+1300

 

 

 

The stock cooler is fine, a cooler master hyper 212 if your anal about noise. 

Also a GT730 is barely better than integrated. 

You don't need a sound card. 

And those are all USD prices. 

 

Also, for NZ you need to bump your budget...$600 is about enough for a potato.

 

Anything cheaper than $900 is a serious potato, and even $900 doesn't get you much. 

 
CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($165.00 @ PC Force) 
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($74.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($100.05 @ PB Technologies) 
Video Card: Asus Radeon R7 260X 2GB DirectCU II Video Card  ($180.32 @ Wiseguys) 
Case: Zalman Z3 Plus White ATX Mid Tower Case  ($56.35 @ PB Technologies) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($139.14 @ PB Technologies) 
Total: $903.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-18 13:38 NZDT+1300

 

600 dollars isn't that bad. You could get a gtx 760 or 750 ti and run max 720 or medium 1080.

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600 dollars isn't that bad. You could get a gtx 760 or 750 ti and run max 720 or medium 1080.

Not in New Zealand you can't. 

 

Also, an R9 270 is faster and cheaper than 750Ti, and an R9 280 is faster and cheaper than a 760.

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Not in New Zealand you can't. 

 

Also, an R9 270 is faster and cheaper than 750Ti, and an R9 280 is faster and cheaper than a 760.

I was told AMD is bad? is it? My friends irl have told me not to get it, but im not too sure why?

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I was told AMD is bad? is it? My friends irl have told me not to get it, but im not too sure why?

AMD GPUs are good, but right now their CPUs are really falling behind. They have two/three lines of CPUs: FX, Athlons, and APUs. The FX chips are three years old and not really good as they're not any cheaper than Intel and they don't perform better as a whole (in rendering an FX8 is a good budget option, but other than that Intel pretty much wins across the board). Then on the tight budget is the Athlon series (namely X4 760k/860k) which is a good budget chip thats aimed to compete with Intel's Pentium chips; and is better than Intel in anything that can use more than two threads, but something like a Pentium G3258 is superior in single threaded tasks. And then finally are APUs, which are good, but only good on EXTREMELY tight budgets where a discrete cpu + discrete gpu is out of budget. 

 

TL;DR: AMD has three series: 

FX: FX4300, FX6300, FX8320 

APUs: (A4-5500 -> A10-7850k)

Athlons: X4 760k/860k (there are more but none worth mentioning) 

 

In gaming: 

i7 > i5 > i3/8320 > 6300 > 4300 > 860k/760k/Pentium G3258 > APU 

 

In rendering: 

i7 > Xeon E3 > 8320 > i5/6300 > 4300 > 860k/760k > G3258 

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AMD GPUs are good, but right now their CPUs are really falling behind. They have two/three lines of CPUs: FX, Athlons, and APUs. The FX chips are three years old and not really good as they're not any cheaper than Intel and they don't perform better as a whole (in rendering an FX8 is a good budget option, but other than that Intel pretty much wins across the board). Then on the tight budget is the Athlon series (namely X4 760k/860k) which is a good budget chip thats aimed to compete with Intel's Pentium chips; and is better than Intel in anything that can use more than two threads, but something like a Pentium G3258 is superior in single threaded tasks. And then finally are APUs, which are good, but only good on EXTREMELY tight budgets where a discrete cpu + discrete gpu is out of budget. 

 

TL;DR: AMD has three series: 

FX: FX4300, FX6300, FX8320 

APUs: (A4-5500 -> A10-7850k)

Athlons: X4 760k/860k (there are more but none worth mentioning) 

 

In gaming: 

i7 > i5 > i3/8320 > 6300 > 4300 > 860k/760k/Pentium G3258 > APU 

 

In rendering: 

i7 > Xeon E3 > 8320 > i5/6300 > 4300 > 860k/760k > G3258 

ahh cool, this has made me think about it a bit more, Thanks for all the help!

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