Is there a way to check buy/sell price history of killstreak kits based on the sheen or killstreaker effect?

[Lotusberry]

gladiator.tf or steam market place would just show price history for the kit as a whole with no way to narrow it by effects. It'd be nice to try and check how much more sheens such as TS/VV/Hot Rod go for. I'm guessing a tool like this doesn't exist publicly or for free but if anyone knows more, that'd be helpful. The most I can work off of right now is current buy/sell listings which might not even be the same effect. Or I look at steam market or cash stores and gauge price differences. 

 

I'm just looking for the price differences because I intend to try profiting off of spec/pro fabricator crafts and selling the kits for more than what I put in. 

[Norah]

Unfortunately, there is no major tool. But that's mostly down to it being unwarranted. Generally all you can do is know what tends to sell easier and extrapolate from there. Since you're ultimately selling something so subjective, there isn't really going to be a sale pattern outside of vague trends.

 

From experience, 95% of combos sell for exactly the same. Something like Manndarin + Singularity is naturally going to be more desirable than Mean Green + Hypno Beam, but it doesn't have any more inherent sale value. The much faster time to sell at a competitive price bracket is where you can really reap that benefit of it being a better combo.

 

Some are worth more. TS and VV with FH or Tornado, from experience, can be upwards of 150% of base price unapplied. Maybe double if you find a real desperate shnook. But that's exclusively on weapons that are always in a higher demand than the market quantity can provide. Scatterguns, Rocket Launchers, Degreasers, all that. As the demand goes down, the amount extra you can charge will follow. Most of the frequently picked non-stock weapons, (Direct Hits, Quick-Fixes, Panic Attacks, that sorta genre), can still get a nice chunk on top of minlist at about 15-20% or so. But it will bottom out with the garbage, nobody's gonna pay more to get Fire Horns on their Enforcer. That's when one should wrap round to the original strategy and just use the higher appeal over the competition to get rid of it at base price.

 

Trying to min-max each item's sale price from such niche factors is likely just going to limit the amount of liquid capital available to you due to the longer time-to-sell. Especially if you're selling on SCM, (generally the best non-whitelisted place to flip kits), since you're likely to have a lot of your crafting profit margins gutted by the 13% SCM sales tax. People might pay an extra buck or so for a better combo on most weapons, but I find that a lot of the time people will either just settle for a "good enough" low tier Killstreaker or just not buy from that selection at all.

 

TLDR; There is no major resource due to it not being practically applicable. Trying to sit on "good" combos for too long will probably damage your profits in the long term. Buyers just aren't that choosey.

[Sir Spoon The Second]

in the order i value them from best to worst

killstreakers

Fire Horns, Tornado

Flames

Incinerator

Singularity, Cerebral Discharge

Hypno-Beam

 

sheens

Team shine

Villainous Violet

Hot Rod

Agonizing Emerald

Manndarin

Deadly Daffodil

Mean Green

 

things to note from this list

Singularity, Cerebral Discharge are placed in the same spot cus i do not see a price difference from them in my experience selling ks kits and weapons

 

most times Fire horns will always be higher then the same combo but with tornado, for lower tier weapons like lets say an Axtinguisher, Fire horns and tornado are priced the same 9 times out of 10 with the differencebeing a FH/TS combo will be 1 key more then a tornado team shine combo

 

for pro kits for weapons on sniper of scout, the sheen Agonizing Emerald (AE) basically becomes a bit of a higher tier sheen (roughly where hot rod is, maybe more if its a FH/Tornado combo) and even tho Emerald is higher then Manndarin they are most times the same price besides what i just stated, same thing goes with Daffodil in a way, sells better for weapons that have an aussie version but that bumps it closer to Emerald on average

 

while Incinerator, Singularity, Cerebral Discharge are all placed higher then Hypno-Beam, realistically they will be the same price (Incinerator, Singularity, Cerebral Discharge, Hypno-Beam) and the more meta of a kit or weapon you got the more you will notice a difference

example rocket launcher kit all with the previously stated ks with the sheen mean green, the difference between a Hypno/MG and an Incinerator/MG would be roughly 4-6 keys but if we look at an Axtinguisher, they would be the same price or a roughly .3 of a key difference at most

 

overall with ks kits trust your gut, list higher then you think you would get and negotiate down, ks kits and weapons can take a fair amount of time to sell but they will sell, if you want to dump it and get quick keys always check buyers on many different sites (BP, scrap, steam market, STN, mannco) some times they will pay a lot more then others

and remember if you apply a pro kit to a weapon do it for personal use as you will lose 55-95% of the kits value

[Lotusberry]

6 hours ago, Sir Spoon The Second said:

overall with ks kits trust your gut, list higher then you think you would get and negotiate down, ks kits and weapons can take a fair amount of time to sell but they will sell, if you want to dump it and get quick keys always check buyers on many different sites (BP, scrap, steam market, STN, mannco) some times they will pay a lot more then others

and remember if you apply a pro kit to a weapon do it for personal use as you will lose 55-95% of the kits value

So there's a possibility that scrap or STN will pay more than other buyers? I find that surprising because (besides scrap auctions) they're bot stores that are looking to flip what you sell to them. I guess the key word is dump it, i.e. quick sell for BO prices.  Maybe their buy prices are a little better when they're out of stock? I guess ultimately, those buy prices should still generate a small profit compared to the craft price. 

 

Lets say I sell on SCM and I want to convert what I've made into pure. What's the best way to go about that? The prices on currency is so much higher than anywhere else due to the market tax. Is it better to just take the hit and hope whatever I'm selling made it worth it then buy keys on SCM or buy other easy to sell items to convert the SCM earnings into more pure in the end? Just wondering if you have insight into that because looking into the latter could become a waste of time when price checking. Although I'd prefer to sell the kits on BP for pure or easily convertible items directly, at least on marketplace or mannco I can expect to exchange what I've earned into keys/currency for good rates. I'm more uncertain about that on SCM even though I could probably sell the kits for the most on there with a little patience. 

 

I noticed kits sell for more than their unique weapon equivalent and it makes sense that buyers would often want to apply the kit onto a weapon and quality of their choice instead of whatever the seller applied it onto. Without a doubt, I'll be selling the kits for that reason and its higher value. 

edit: STN in particular buys items for dirt cheap prices so I don't see how selling there is ever the play unless you just want to get rid of something immediately. 

[Sir Spoon The Second]

2 hours ago, Lotusberry said:

So there's a possibility that scrap or STN will pay more than other buyers? I find that surprising because (besides scrap auctions) they're bot stores that are looking to flip what you sell to them. I guess the key word is dump it, i.e. quick sell for BO prices.  Maybe their buy prices are a little better when they're out of stock? I guess ultimately, those buy prices should still generate a small profit compared to the craft price. 

for scrap its hit or miss as they don't that into account combo unless its team shine but some times they will pay more then they should

 

2 hours ago, Lotusberry said:

Lets say I sell on SCM and I want to convert what I've made into pure. What's the best way to go about that? The prices on currency is so much higher than anywhere else due to the market tax. Is it better to just take the hit and hope whatever I'm selling made it worth it then buy keys on SCM or buy other easy to sell items to convert the SCM earnings into more pure in the end? Just wondering if you have insight into that because looking into the latter could become a waste of time when price checking. Although I'd prefer to sell the kits on BP for pure or easily convertible items directly, at least on marketplace or mannco I can expect to exchange what I've earned into keys/currency for good rates. I'm more uncertain about that on SCM even though I could probably sell the kits for the most on there with a little patience. 

how ever you want, personally cus i trade ks kits/fabs ill just build up my wallet funds and place a buyorder for a kit then sell it on bp or MP (seller there) for profit

places like SCM, MP, and mannco can have kits that are some times 2-5x what they are actually worth even with a god combo just cus/ charge more for cash discount for pure

but that doesn't mean to ignore them as some times they will have a very fair priced item so they are always good to check

 

2 hours ago, Lotusberry said:

I noticed kits sell for more than their unique weapon equivalent and it makes sense that buyers would often want to apply the kit onto a weapon and quality of their choice instead of whatever the seller applied it onto. Without a doubt, I'll be selling the kits for that reason and its higher value. 

yes the kits are worth more then them applied so unless you plan to use the kit thats fine but never apply it to sell it

for basic and spec kit some times buy orders for it applied can be worth more then the kit as they are often used to craft spec and pro fabs to kits so people will pay extra for that convince 

 

2 hours ago, Lotusberry said:

edit: STN in particular buys items for dirt cheap prices so I don't see how selling there is ever the play unless you just want to get rid of something immediately. 

STN is pritty shit for kits but very rare they will have good deals so its best to check both there buy orders and check to see what they are selling as you can fined good deals