hiroman Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Title. Tried checking some items that are supposedly duplicated, but it no longer shows those are duplicated in this site. For example, this one: https://backpack.tf/item/1240091160 Exists in two backpacks: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198061376237 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198339306067 Any idea? Or any other place to check if it is duplicate? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Mouse Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 This happened in a data erasure, which was (allegedly?) caused by backpack.tf leaving their primary database publicly accessible to the entire internet. No-one's really minded in regards to unusuals though, because "duped" items were just a way for people to have an excuse to pay less. It changes literally nothing and is a superstition. RussellSproutz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitk Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 54 minutes ago, hiroman said: Title. Tried checking some items that are supposedly duplicated, but it no longer shows those are duplicated in this site. For example, this one: https://backpack.tf/item/1240091160 Exists in two backpacks: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198061376237 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198339306067 Any idea? Or any other place to check if it is duplicate? Thanks! You can see duped items on the "new" backpack.tf at next.backpack.tf https://next.backpack.tf/item/1240091160 RussellSproutz and hiroman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-a- Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 next will show some duplicates, but i usually triple check on tf2items hiroman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators ᴾᴾᴹ Shuffle Spy Posted October 10, 2022 Administrators Share Posted October 10, 2022 You can still tell it's duplicated by seeing that the IDs aren't sequential. Aside from whatever displays on the next.backpack.tf UI, that's the only way to tell unless a price suggestion or something else mentions an item being duped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 The year is 2022 and people still worrying about dupes,weird Kwas, Heidecker, UberMedicFully and 5 others 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple person Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 A duped item literally changes nothing important UberMedicFully, RussellSproutz, Macioeus and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RouzenZaker Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 6 hours ago, Naleksuh said: This happened in a data erasure, which was (allegedly?) caused by backpack.tf leaving their primary database publicly accessible to the entire internet. No-one's really minded in regards to unusuals though, because "duped" items were just a way for people to have an excuse to pay less. It changes literally nothing and is a superstition. Tell me about it when you sell it AR3M and RussellSproutz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellSproutz Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Dupe and clean they don't matter period. I own 2 "dupe" miscs and they function the same as my "clean" ones. UberMedicFully 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Jefe Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I wouldn't be mad if bp.tf just stopped tracking dupes all together. RussellSproutz, UberMedicFully and Alecto 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UberMedicFully Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Me: ok this item is duped and? Other traders: Lol your Item is duped, sorry but i can't pay full price. Me: *huge confusion cause a item is an item, same value???* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiroman Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 12 hours ago, -a- said: next will show some duplicates, but i usually triple check on tf2items Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 RouzenZaker, KN1F3 and RussellSproutz 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Bakula Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 6 hours ago, UberMedicFully said: Me: *huge confusion cause a item is an item, same value???* As a bit of a history lesson, there were 3 main reasons people devalued dupes back in the day: There was there was a certain air of uncertainty of their future. While most dupes were created because of Valve restoring backpacks of people that got scammed (which they don't do anymore, outside of those hit by a fake item scam a few years back), some were created via exploits, and Valve cracked down hard on those, usually including inventory wipes as part of the punishment. As such, there was a fear amongst the trader base that if a person got a tainted item, that Valve could just zap it away at any time. This was completely unsubstantiated, of course, as there was no record of it actually happening to any innocent trader, but people still remembered how hard Valve went after people using idling programs. Scammer "taint". Since most of the dupes were created via scamming, many people felt that taking a scammed item or a dupe of it supported the scammers. And many communities had the attitude of "a person who trades with a scammer is a scammer themselves" and were quick to ban, so it was just safer to take items that had a clean history. Simple greed and grifting. People want to lowball as much as possible, and an item being duped just made for a great excuse. Far easier to convince someone to drop their price with that than saying that you'll pay less because the hat's chakras are misaligned or because Mercury is in retrograde. Nowadays, it's just the last option, as dupes have mattered less and less, especially after the establishment of the SCM, since you can't easily check for dupes on items posted on there. El Jefe, AR3M and RussellSproutz 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranx Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I have a few duped items and they still show the other owners listed there, after the database crash. The dupe message no longer appears on the history page. One of which, the scammer still has the original item in their backpack as they were never successful in selling it, and they haven't been online in 5 years. https://backpack.tf/item/245166060 https://backpack.tf/item/668840352 https://backpack.tf/item/263268817 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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