MicRa Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Hi, This is my first time on the forums, but I'm very happy with a trade I made last night. Essentially, I finished my first MvM tour last night, and got a Professional Killstreak Flamethrower Kit, with Fire Horns and Deadly Daffodil. Someone I had played with almost immediately messaged me with an offer of 10 keys, and wanting to make sure I would get a good deal (especially because it was my first trade) I checked the price on Backpack. The recommended price was ~23 keys, and because he tried to lowball me by more than 50%, started with a 25 Key offer, which he was ok with, but he wanted it to be a complete kit. Unfortunately, I wasn't going to be able to do this, because I did not have enough Ref at the time. He noticed this, and offered 20 keys for just the kit. I asked for 21.5, which was the middle, and we agreed on the price, thus making my first big trade! Tbh, I'm more surprised that I spent $4 on Tour of Duty tickets and made back $42 worth of stuff. I am still new at trading, and not really sure where to start, so if you have any advice, I would appreciate it Anyways, thanks for reading my paragraph long text on my first trade, and have a nice day. - MicRa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Congrats on on your first trade. Trading can be a bit complicated so before diving in it's probably a good idea to get an idea of the basics of trading. Try to join trading discords and communities, chat and engage with other traders and share experiences. That's a pretty decent way to ''get into'' the whole trading scene. Discords: https://discord.gg/j7cMkGF (backpack.tf) https://discord.gg/AnpKT4M (tf2 trading advice) https://discord.gg/bH4yBRjKK5 (virtual economist, who also have a youtube channel with video's you can watch for beginning traders: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheVirtualEconomist ) https://discord.gg/tf2 (tf2c, former r/tf2 server) https://discord.gg/gladiatortf (gladiator.tf) and many more Also check out guides such as: Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundDrout Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, MicRa said: Hi, This is my first time on the forums, but I'm very happy with a trade I made last night. Essentially, I finished my first MvM tour last night, and got a Professional Killstreak Flamethrower Kit, with Fire Horns and Deadly Daffodil. Someone I had played with almost immediately messaged me with an offer of 10 keys, and wanting to make sure I would get a good deal (especially because it was my first trade) I checked the price on Backpack. The recommended price was ~23 keys, and because he tried to lowball me by more than 50%, started with a 25 Key offer, which he was ok with, but he wanted it to be a complete kit. Unfortunately, I wasn't going to be able to do this, because I did not have enough Ref at the time. He noticed this, and offered 20 keys for just the kit. I asked for 21.5, which was the middle, and we agreed on the price, thus making my first big trade! Tbh, I'm more surprised that I spent $4 on Tour of Duty tickets and made back $42 worth of stuff. I am still new at trading, and not really sure where to start, so if you have any advice, I would appreciate it Anyways, thanks for reading my paragraph long text on my first trade, and have a nice day. - MicRa Nice trade, prof ks flamethrower fabricators go on the SCM for around $45, which is close to what you sold it for. Though fire horns is one of the more desirable eye effects, so it could have been possible to squeeze some more, that was not bad at all. If you have over 20 keys that means you can delve into unusual trading, though it is as difficult as it is profitable. Read plenty of guides and be prepared to make mistakes if you decide to start on unusual trading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, SoundDrout said: Nice trade, prof ks flamethrower fabricators go on the SCM for around $45, which is close to what you sold it for. Though fire horns is one of the more desirable eye effects, so it could have been possible to squeeze some more, that was not bad at all. If you have over 20 keys that means you can delve into unusual trading, though it is as difficult as it is profitable. Read plenty of guides and be prepared to make mistakes if you decide to start on unusual trading. you can try to gain some experience with trading with low-tier trading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Bakula Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 What I'd suggest is rather than using everything to jump straight into trading, spend a bit of it to upgrade your existing kit. Get a nice cosmetic loadout for each class and get skins/stranges of your favorite weapons. After that, figure out what your endgoal and/or 1st goal is and start trading towards that, as you want a goal in mind because trading just for the sake of profit is never worth it compared to many of the other myriad ways of making money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucco51 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Scott Bakula said: What I'd suggest is rather than using everything to jump straight into trading, spend a bit of it to upgrade your existing kit. Get a nice cosmetic loadout for each class and get skins/stranges of your favorite weapons. After that, figure out what your endgoal and/or 1st goal is and start trading towards that, as you want a goal in mind because trading just for the sake of profit is never worth it compared to many of the other myriad ways of making money. i completely agree, target what you like the look off, what u think will compliment your preferred loadout, the idea is to enjoy your items and make some coin on the way but that takes ages, as long as your happy with your look, enjoy the game and the profit will take care of itself (albeit very small and very slow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3.50 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 11 hours ago, MicRa said: Someone I had played with almost immediately messaged me with an offer of 10 keys [...] he tried to lowball me by more than 50% Serious advice here from a person who's been a trader since trading was a thing: you should have cut contact with this person at this point. At the point that someone tries to lowball you like that, they reveal themselves as someone who is looking to take advantage of you. They will continue to make offers that they feel will let them profit at your expense. They will not make a fair offer. Any offer made by a person like that can be easily beaten elsewhere. Once a person lowballs you, immediately look elsewhere. You will not ever regret doing this. To illustrate: https://backpack.tf/classifieds?killstreak_tier=3&item=Flame Thrower&item_type=target Professional Flame Thrower kits (finished ones) can be insta-sold to buy orders for 24 keys. The total cost for completing a Pro. fabricator is less than 2 keys, so ~22 keys is the absolute rock bottom value for a pro Flame Thrower fabricator. You then have to factor in that Fire Horns is the most desirable effect and the cheapest Fire Horns kit is listed for 30 keys... Plus, he was willing to pay 25 for the completed kit, which means he valued the fabricator somewhere above 23...keep an eye out, if he doesn't use it himself, look for him to complete and list it at ~29 keys. Overall, you did leave some money on the table, but you did extremely well to look up prices and not sell the fabricator for <50% of its worth. Good work so far. Continue to research prices; the community is very helpful and useful when it come to advice; and learn to enjoy blocking lowballers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicRa Posted December 15, 2021 Author Share Posted December 15, 2021 Thanks for all the replies. I understand the price was a bit low, but at the time I was more in the zone of "WOW that's a lot of profit!" rather than "How can I sell this for the most profit possible." I'll make sure to join some trading discords and stuff, and will work my way out from there. Anyways, thanks for the support and info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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