Versal Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Maybe you will make a new rule for undercutting price by 0.11 ref, ban for a week? yuno, krapek, Chuck and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikspy Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I don't know man... Seems a little extreme for such a small problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keks Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 well, why? undercutting is a tactic in "business". A tactic to try and sell your items before others do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versal Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 I don’t think that this is a small problem, because it’s simply impossible to sell an item without a bot. You put a price of 10 keys in a minute one bot undercut you at 0.11 ref then the second bot undercut first by 0.11, so the price is simple until the end of the day drops to 9 keys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versal Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 ye ok u can undercut by 1 ref, no problem, but undercutting by 0.11 ref spoils trading on backpack.tf and ruins tf2 economy .\imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keks Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 30 minutes ago, Versal said: I don’t think that this is a small problem, because it’s simply impossible to sell an item without a bot. You put a price of 10 keys in a minute one bot undercut you at 0.11 ref then the second bot undercut first by 0.11, so the price is simple until the end of the day drops to 9 keys 24 minutes ago, Versal said: ye ok u can undercut by 1 ref, no problem, but undercutting by 0.11 ref spoils trading on backpack.tf and ruins tf2 economy .\imho yeah but like, who cares is the classifieds listings price drops lol. If you're that desperate on selling something, just sell it to a bot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vAGUe Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 If only a damn script didn't exist... I dare bot owners to check their 5000+ listings to see who's over/undercutting them Vashta? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaser Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Undercut em back, dunno wuts the problem with that. 🔥Master Throne Crimson🔥 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarool Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 flex on em by undercutting by half a scrap also i don't know why you of all people would suggest this, i'm fairly certain you used to do the exact same thing with buy orders. wundati, 🔥Master Throne Crimson🔥, rndmchrs and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goliac Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Same thing goes for buy orders. Like i put one for 50 keys and it automatically gets outbidden by 0.11 ref. No idea why this site is still allowing this kind of stuff happen. a1ex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei#Ukrainian Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 id call autobeating buyers bigger problem. Just imagine me and a few more guys making those bots for a all classifieds. 10 bots will be beating each other in top buyers classifieds and gl buying anything for anyone other than us humann, Xergoyf and Strife Hale 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack_SlashLTU Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 10 hours ago, Versal said: Maybe you will make a new rule for undercutting price by 0.11 ref, ban for a week? Didn't you undercut me and others in buy orders awhile ago? So the tables have turned or what? Vashta? and Pixxi0us 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norah Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 If a ban on 0.11 undercuts is put into place, people will just undercut by 0.22. What do you do then, ban 0.22 undercuts? If that keeps happening over and over, the undercut minimum would eventually get so big that there'd be a sea of complaining over having to drop your prices too low to compete. If someone "can't trade" without an autolisting bot, then they should get an autolisting bot. Jarool and Vebster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Lmao at "big traders" getting mad over bots. Imagine stomping everyone in the game and being perfectly fine with it, then crying and asking devs to restrict the game when someone stomps YOU. Vebster and Lʌyer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soz Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Norah said: If a ban on 0.11 undercuts is put into place, people will just undercut by 0.22. What do you do then, ban 0.22 undercuts? If that keeps happening over and over, the undercut minimum would eventually get so big that there'd be a sea of complaining over having to drop your prices too low to compete. There's already a lot of people complaining about quicksellers selling for too low. As for undercutting/overcutting - I think there should be some restrictions on expensive items, for example in real life auctions you cannot bid 1000.01$ to beat someone with a 1000$ bid, it usually goes up in 1%-10% of the item value. humann, Vebster, 🔥Master Throne Crimson🔥 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
🔥Master Throne Crimson🔥 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 14 hours ago, Versal said: because it’s simply impossible to sell an item without a bot Why own a bot to sell an item when you can sell an item to a bot Vebster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
🔥Master Throne Crimson🔥 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 9 hours ago, Goliac said: Same thing goes for buy orders. Like i put one for 50 keys and it automatically gets outbidden by 0.11 ref. No idea why this site is still allowing this kind of stuff happen. Well this is a different thing, for unusual buy orders over like 40 keys, overcutting by 0.11 ref is rediculous Vebster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsdea Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 https://backpack.tf/rules Vebster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_n Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Imagine complaining about 0.11 ref, which is worth about half a penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack_SlashLTU Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, n_n said: Imagine complaining about 0.11 ref, which is worth about half a penny. It's not complaining about pennies, it's complaining about best position in sellers line - to be first. Vebster and 🔥Master Throne Crimson🔥 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Alex Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Wsdea said: https://backpack.tf/rules I remember this part in the rules was confusing for me as well, but it is not about undercutting at all. This is for bots that own multiple identical items and make separate listings for them (unlike e.g. Bot.tf banking which only creates one listing but can sell any item). Then backpack.tf "folds" those listings together and you can see "2x / 3x ..." next to item name: This rule prohibits bots from bypassing this "folding". Jarool, Zeus_Junior, ѕιи and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lk Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Yet undercutting bots never get banned lmao. Vebster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apoq Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 lets just ban people from selling stuff 🔥Master Throne Crimson🔥, Surs, Norah and 2 others 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toad Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 On 3/28/2020 at 9:38 AM, Chuck said: Lmao at "big traders" getting mad over bots. Imagine stomping everyone in the game and being perfectly fine with it, then crying and asking devs to restrict the game when someone stomps YOU. Lmao at "bot users" getting mad over human traders. Imagine stomping everyone in the game and being fine with it, then crying and shit posting on this forum when someone calls YOU out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toad Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 brb gonna go download my aimbot Zeus_Junior 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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