ZealLad77 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 This might be a really fucking dumb question, but are those discount percentages on marketplace.tf really as they say? I'm mainly asking because I see unusuals are priced in keys, which marketplace.tf have a value for and then they have a 10% tax or whatever. I'm wondering if that 10% tax applies when you buy the hat, lowering the discount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Alex Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 The 10% fee should not concern you because it's taken from seller's amount. You always pay the posted price, either $ US if you buy directly on MP, or in keys if item is posted "through backpack.tf". As for "discounts" at https://marketplace.tf/deals - last time I heard they were based on outdated Backpack.tf prices, which are usually outdated by themselves. Don't pay much attention to those "% discounts". Instead compare MP price to current BP sell and buy orders. For example, "Purple Energy Allbrero" shows 60% discount on MP (at $90.00) because BP stats page shows "100 keys" but you can see a bot selling it for only 47+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZealLad77 Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, D.Alex said: The 10% fee should not concern you because it's taken from seller's amount. You always pay the posted price, either $ US if you buy directly on MP, or in keys if item is posted "through backpack.tf". As for "discounts" at https://marketplace.tf/deals - last time I heard they were based on outdated Backpack.tf prices, which are usually outdated by themselves. Don't pay much attention to those "% discounts". Instead compare MP price to current BP sell and buy orders. For example, "Purple Energy Allbrero" shows 60% discount on MP (at $90.00) because BP stats page shows "100 keys" but you can see a bot selling it for only 47+. So in essence, the discounts in cash are what they say they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vashta? Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Brother Spook said: So in essence, the discounts in cash are what they say they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raeindeer Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Brother Spook said: So in essence, the discounts in cash are what they say they are? Laughed so hard at Vashtas response but decided to clarify that for you. Marketplace determines an items cash price based on the backpack.tf price converted into dollars This could be a 4 year old price that is massively outdated and where you have sellers for half that price. Take the scorching TC for example. Bp.tf official price is 1300 keys (8 months old). Mptf has one listed for 2288 dollars and considers this a 22 percent discount, lets see why Marketplace autoprices keys at 2.26 dollar per key (which is A LOT, but sure). 1300*2.26=2938. 22 pct off is 2291.64. In reality keys are currently going for 1.78, so 1300*1.78=2314 So that hat is actually listed at a full 1 percent discount. (still overpriced, but hey who am I to judge) HOWEVERRRRR if you look on bp.tf, you see 4 listings: 800-900-1000-1300 keys. So that 22 percent discount is actually the 2nd worst of the 5 choices you have there and you would actually be spending around 864 dollars extra over the 800 key version. Ergo don't stare yourself blind on it. Browse for hats you like but always check bp AND mptf (hell, even check steam community market I would say) listings before buying for pure or investing any money to get it when buying And marketplace just takes 10 percent off the listed price, so no extra costs whatsoever for the buyer. Hope that cleared some stuff up for ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rndmchrs Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 44 minutes ago, Raeindeer said: hell, even check steam community market I would say) @Mucy wants to know your location Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZealLad77 Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Raeindeer said: Laughed so hard at Vashtas response but decided to clarify that for you. Marketplace determines an items cash price based on the backpack.tf price converted into dollars This could be a 4 year old price that is massively outdated and where you have sellers for half that price. Take the scorching TC for example. Bp.tf official price is 1300 keys (8 months old). Mptf has one listed for 2288 dollars and considers this a 22 percent discount, lets see why Marketplace autoprices keys at 2.26 dollar per key (which is A LOT, but sure). 1300*2.26=2938. 22 pct off is 2291.64. In reality keys are currently going for 1.78, so 1300*1.78=2314 So that hat is actually listed at a full 1 percent discount. (still overpriced, but hey who am I to judge) HOWEVERRRRR if you look on bp.tf, you see 4 listings: 800-900-1000-1300 keys. So that 22 percent discount is actually the 2nd worst of the 5 choices you have there and you would actually be spending around 864 dollars extra over the 800 key version. Ergo don't stare yourself blind on it. Browse for hats you like but always check bp AND mptf (hell, even check steam community market I would say) listings before buying for pure or investing any money to get it when buying And marketplace just takes 10 percent off the listed price, so no extra costs whatsoever for the buyer. Hope that cleared some stuff up for ya Wait wait wait, so marketplace autoprices keys at 2.26?! Why? Shouldn't they base it off what they're selling keys at which is like 1.78 right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raeindeer Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Brother Spook said: Wait wait wait, so marketplace autoprices keys at 2.26?! Why? Shouldn't they base it off what they're selling keys at which is like 1.78 right now? Genius right? they have been autopricing it like this for so long now, I honestly don't understand it either Just look at their 'homepage', keys at 1.77$ is a 22 percent discount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raeindeer Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 4 hours ago, rndmchrs said: @Mucy wants to know your location I actually had a case of a guy that contacted me to reduce the price of an item because it was listed cheaper on steam comm market And i really wasnt highballing it, so yeah, you never know I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZealLad77 Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, Raeindeer said: Genius right? they have been autopricing it like this for so long now, I honestly don't understand it either Just look at their 'homepage', keys at 1.77$ is a 22 percent discount I wish everyone would just collectively agree to raise keys back to 2.1 or 2$ or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 10 hours ago, Brother Spook said: Wait wait wait, so marketplace autoprices keys at 2.26?! Why? Shouldn't they base it off what they're selling keys at which is like 1.78 right now? Backpack actually uses ref prices for autopricing most items, even keys lol. Ref prices are $0.04, with one key being 56.55 ref. 56*.04 = $2.24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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