yellowknives Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Good morning Backpack.tf Community! I'd like to discuss today on the topic on trading bots. I've noticed in the past few days that a lot of automated bot accounts are selling craft hats at just outrageous prices and I believe this is a real issue, even if temporary. Example 1: Wartime Warmth, a misc worth 2 refined, being sold at 13.11. Keep in mind that the strange variant is worth around 14 refined. Example 2: Stylish DeGroot, another misc worth 1.88 refined, being sold at 1.28 keys. Links to screenshots: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/535189411198140417/570562427226292224/Screenshot_3.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/535189411198140417/570563309657653258/Screenshot_5.png I really believe this is something to be discussed. I also don't believe this is a forceful attempt at raising the prices for otherwise cheap miscs. And if anyone knows why this is even an issue to begin with I'd love to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 That's absolutely normal, bots usually try to match the other people/bots offers when buying/selling, if for some reason an item runs out of sellers and the only remaining sell classifieds on that item are painted or spelled variants then when the bot checks at what price other people and bots are selling it, the only ones it will find are those high price variants and think that it must be its current price and sell it for that amount even tho it isn't painted nor anything. Usually this doesn't go on for long periods of time, normally the prices goes back to what they are supposed to be in few hours or even minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowknives Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 Oh that absolutely makes sense then. Thank you for your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Alex Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (Listings: Stylish DeGroot, Wartime Warmth) I agree, just usual hiccups in bots' automated pricing algorithms. Simply use SCM or Marketplace.tf while this gets sorted by itself. I've seen more intesting cases with 2000+% of usual price: https://imgur.com/sEOkrnF / https://bot.tf/stats/listings/Y7765ELY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, D.Alex said: I've seen more intesting cases with 2000+% of usual price: https://imgur.com/sEOkrnF Yeah, probably there was no sellers at the time and the only one/ones for sale were super rare variants that costed a lot, bots must have thought that it was its current price because of being the only one/ones for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goliac Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I’m probably gonna get hate for this but bots are seriously ruining the economy, especially for lower valued items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Goliac said: I’m probably gonna get hate for this but bots are seriously ruining the economy, especially for lower valued items. Because you think as a trader, if you think as a "normal user" would you rather send a trade request for a worthless item and wait hours for it to be accepted or would you like to send a trade request to a bot and have it accepted 10 seconds later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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