JayTuut Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Budget: $2000 USD Primarily for: Gaming Extra needs: Wifi adapter This dude is American (just so u dont think its for a local friend) Just wants the best performance for his budget. Calling @AwesomeMcCoolName *ALOHOHOHOHOHOHO* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftyy Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Does he want any specific type of case? ex: tempered glass, good ventilation, quietness? also if he does want tempered glass on his pc does he want rgb components? what games is he going to be playing? if he wants to play something like monster hunter on the highest graphics, you'd need something a bit beefier like a 1080ti to a 2070, but that's with the highest settings, if he's playing lower end games or indie games, ex: we need to go deeper, don't starve, binding of Isaac, or even TF2 on certain settings, you might want a cheaper graphics card, there's a lot to think about when making a computer, I hope this helped you grasp how hard designing a computer can be. : D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canner Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 This is time for me Build Reasons for parts CPU - 8700k is about as good as it gets for gaming MOBO - The Z390 Aorus comes with great VRM's for OC'ing and a wifi card COOLER - H100i is one of the best CPU coolers out there, and will allow for OC'ing potential RAM - DDR4-3000 is all that is needed for gaming, plus the RGB STORAGE - SSD's are needed in all pc's and the NVME will allow for a really snappy system and the SATA could be a game library GPU - RTX 2080 is the best GPU that fits this budget and EVGA is one of THE BEST customer service companies out there. PSU - Again EVGA and customer service, fully modular psu with plenty of power and 80+ gold rated. CASE - Completely up to you but the meshify c is one of the coolest cases imo and makes building a breeze, also has great airflow. OS - Just get one online for like 20$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoranoGuardias Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 IMO The Z390 board is overkill for the 8700K. Gimme a sec.Here you go. PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f848kd Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f848kd/by_merchant/ CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($399.79 @ OutletPC) CPU Cooler: Corsair - H115i RGB PLATINUM 97 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($169.89 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: Asus - TUF Z390-PLUS GAMING (WI-FI) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($159.08 @ Amazon) Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($94.89 @ OutletPC) Storage: Western Digital - Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($134.90 @ OutletPC) Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($259.99 @ B&H) Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($533.98 @ Newegg) Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P350X (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ B&H) Case Fan: Corsair - LL120 RGB LED 43.25 CFM 120mm Fan ($24.99 @ Amazon) Case Fan: Corsair - ML140 PRO RGB (2 pack w/Lighting Node PRO) 55.4 CFM 140mm Fans ($80.61 @ Newegg) Total: $1968.10 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-25 14:11 EST-0500 You can swap out the RGB fans for the standard ML fans he wants. These are the units with the PWM board headers and a separate header to go to the lighting node. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S T E W Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 z390 Should not be overkill. 9700k is a pointless upgrade imo. You lose hyperthreading. [PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gjHxmq) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gjHxmq/by_merchant/) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sxDzK8/intel-core-i7-8700k-37ghz-6-core-processor-bx80684i78700k) | $369.89 @ Amazon **CPU Cooler** | [Corsair - H115i PRO 55.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/W6RzK8/corsair-h115i-pro-554-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9060032-ww) | $99.99 @ Newegg **Motherboard** | [MSI - MPG Z390M GAMING EDGE AC Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BJWfrH/msi-mpg-z390m-gaming-edge-ac-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-mpg-z390m-gaming-edge-ac) | $175.00 @ B&H **Memory** | [G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dHjJ7P/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gtzrx) | $259.99 @ Newegg **Storage** | [Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9nhKHx/intel-660p-series-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ssdpeknw010t8x1) | $144.99 @ Newegg **Storage** | [Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Cs4gXL/hitachi-internal-hard-drive-hua723030ala640) | $61.09 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jVQG3C/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-8-gb-black-video-card-08g-p4-2081-kr) | $699.99 @ Newegg **Case** | [Corsair - Crystal 280X MicroATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/m7yV3C/corsair-crystal-280x-microatx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011136-ww) | $79.99 @ Newegg **Power Supply** | [EVGA - SuperNOVA P2 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZ2FT/evga-power-supply-220p20750x1) | $99.99 @ Amazon **Operating System** | [Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MfH48d/microsoft-os-fqc08930) | $10.00 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $2040.92 | Mail-in rebates | -$40.00 | **Total** | **$2000.92** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2018-12-25 18:01 EST-0500 | Only using the z390 board because I did not find a z370 board with the same features for less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayTuut Posted December 25, 2018 Author Share Posted December 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, S T E W said: z390 Should not be overkill. 9700k is a pointless upgrade imo. You lose hyperthreading. [PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gjHxmq) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gjHxmq/by_merchant/) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sxDzK8/intel-core-i7-8700k-37ghz-6-core-processor-bx80684i78700k) | $369.89 @ Amazon **CPU Cooler** | [Corsair - H115i PRO 55.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/W6RzK8/corsair-h115i-pro-554-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9060032-ww) | $99.99 @ Newegg **Motherboard** | [MSI - MPG Z390M GAMING EDGE AC Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BJWfrH/msi-mpg-z390m-gaming-edge-ac-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-mpg-z390m-gaming-edge-ac) | $175.00 @ B&H **Memory** | [G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dHjJ7P/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gtzrx) | $259.99 @ Newegg **Storage** | [Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9nhKHx/intel-660p-series-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ssdpeknw010t8x1) | $144.99 @ Newegg **Storage** | [Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Cs4gXL/hitachi-internal-hard-drive-hua723030ala640) | $61.09 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jVQG3C/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-8-gb-black-video-card-08g-p4-2081-kr) | $699.99 @ Newegg **Case** | [Corsair - Crystal 280X MicroATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/m7yV3C/corsair-crystal-280x-microatx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011136-ww) | $79.99 @ Newegg **Power Supply** | [EVGA - SuperNOVA P2 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZ2FT/evga-power-supply-220p20750x1) | $99.99 @ Amazon **Operating System** | [Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MfH48d/microsoft-os-fqc08930) | $10.00 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $2040.92 | Mail-in rebates | -$40.00 | **Total** | **$2000.92** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2018-12-25 18:01 EST-0500 | Only using the z390 board because I did not find a z370 board with the same features for less. I think i'm liking this one the best for him. I'll show him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S T E W Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 hour ago, JayTee said: I think i'm liking this one the best for him. I'll show him Sure thing. If he wants to add RGB fans later, he can buy em later. This isn't the cheapest I could get, but it's certainly close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoranoGuardias Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 8 normal cores with higher clocks and better thermal interface are better than six hyper-threaded cores with none of the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S T E W Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 5 hours ago, SoranoGuardias said: 8 normal cores with higher clocks and better thermal interface are better than six hyper-threaded cores with none of the former. Highly doubtful how well that equates to real world performance. Real world perf in games is 5-7 fps at stock clocks at 1080p. Of course you're not going to run these cpus stock though. My 8700k overclocked to 5ghz is sitting at 43 degrees right now while playing overwatch. Obviously OP's friend will have a nice enough system to play all 1440p games max above 60fps for sure, and be able to handle 4k gaming, so the difference will be even less noticeable there. I wouldn't sacrifice an extra 16gb of ram or a better gpu because such a difference. EDIT: You also lose the option to delid. The 9700k has a crappy solder job, so a delidded 8700k will still be cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayTuut Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 18 hours ago, SoranoGuardias said: IMO The Z390 board is overkill for the 8700K. Gimme a sec.Here you go. PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f848kd Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f848kd/by_merchant/ CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($399.79 @ OutletPC) CPU Cooler: Corsair - H115i RGB PLATINUM 97 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($169.89 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: Asus - TUF Z390-PLUS GAMING (WI-FI) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($159.08 @ Amazon) Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($94.89 @ OutletPC) Storage: Western Digital - Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($134.90 @ OutletPC) Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($259.99 @ B&H) Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($533.98 @ Newegg) Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P350X (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ B&H) Case Fan: Corsair - LL120 RGB LED 43.25 CFM 120mm Fan ($24.99 @ Amazon) Case Fan: Corsair - ML140 PRO RGB (2 pack w/Lighting Node PRO) 55.4 CFM 140mm Fans ($80.61 @ Newegg) Total: $1968.10 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-25 14:11 EST-0500 You can swap out the RGB fans for the standard ML fans he wants. These are the units with the PWM board headers and a separate header to go to the lighting node. 14 hours ago, S T E W said: z390 Should not be overkill. 9700k is a pointless upgrade imo. You lose hyperthreading. [PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gjHxmq) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gjHxmq/by_merchant/) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sxDzK8/intel-core-i7-8700k-37ghz-6-core-processor-bx80684i78700k) | $369.89 @ Amazon **CPU Cooler** | [Corsair - H115i PRO 55.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/W6RzK8/corsair-h115i-pro-554-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9060032-ww) | $99.99 @ Newegg **Motherboard** | [MSI - MPG Z390M GAMING EDGE AC Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BJWfrH/msi-mpg-z390m-gaming-edge-ac-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-mpg-z390m-gaming-edge-ac) | $175.00 @ B&H **Memory** | [G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dHjJ7P/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gtzrx) | $259.99 @ Newegg **Storage** | [Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9nhKHx/intel-660p-series-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ssdpeknw010t8x1) | $144.99 @ Newegg **Storage** | [Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Cs4gXL/hitachi-internal-hard-drive-hua723030ala640) | $61.09 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jVQG3C/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-8-gb-black-video-card-08g-p4-2081-kr) | $699.99 @ Newegg **Case** | [Corsair - Crystal 280X MicroATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/m7yV3C/corsair-crystal-280x-microatx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011136-ww) | $79.99 @ Newegg **Power Supply** | [EVGA - SuperNOVA P2 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZ2FT/evga-power-supply-220p20750x1) | $99.99 @ Amazon **Operating System** | [Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MfH48d/microsoft-os-fqc08930) | $10.00 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $2040.92 | Mail-in rebates | -$40.00 | **Total** | **$2000.92** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2018-12-25 18:01 EST-0500 | Only using the z390 board because I did not find a z370 board with the same features for less. Im confused why his is cheaper when he has a 9700k in the build? (Looks like he halfed the ram to 16gb, which i dont even think he needs but yeah) ah 2070 vs 2080, and his is only like $70 cheaper. I mean 8700k vs 9700k or 2070 vs 2080. I think you go for the 8700k and 2080 over 9700k and 2070 right? The 9700k is only 4% better anyway https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-9700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-8700K/4030vs3937 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S T E W Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 3 hours ago, JayTee said: Im confused why his is cheaper when he has a 9700k in the build? (Looks like he halfed the ram to 16gb, which i dont even think he needs but yeah) ah 2070 vs 2080, and his is only like $70 cheaper. I mean 8700k vs 9700k or 2070 vs 2080. I think you go for the 8700k and 2080 over 9700k and 2070 right? The 9700k is only 4% better anyway https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-9700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-8700K/4030vs3937 You could eliminate the difference by getting the same case as his. But by doing that, you lose cable management ease, etc. But at a 2k budget, I strongly recommend getting your favorite case. When your friend gets his system, I can help him with an overclock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayTuut Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 8 hours ago, S T E W said: You could eliminate the difference by getting the same case as his. But by doing that, you lose cable management ease, etc. But at a 2k budget, I strongly recommend getting your favorite case. When your friend gets his system, I can help him with an overclock. I haven't looked into the case you linked, but will he need some extra case fans? Like on his build? Just curious on cooling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoranoGuardias Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 The common sentiment in the gaming industry is that hyperthreading is moot unless you are streaming or recording gameplay. Games will always benefit from more physical cores versus processing threads. I can back up some of that with my own personal testing. I have a twin-socket LGA2011 server with Xeon E5-2660 CPUs. If I turn off hyperthreading (assign no more than one thread per core on the VM) I get a score of 1350 on Cinebench. If I do 16 core / 32 threads it jumps to 1650. The price premium is not worth the Hyperthreading. Go ahead and jump up to the 8-core. It's slightly more money for a far better chip. Also, more fans means you have better cooling capacity at lower noise levels. You can change it out for whatever fans he wants. Just know that the case supports 140/120 fans on the front and top, and 120 on the rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S T E W Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 6 hours ago, SoranoGuardias said: The common sentiment in the gaming industry is that hyperthreading is moot unless you are streaming or recording gameplay. Games will always benefit from more physical cores versus processing threads. I can back up some of that with my own personal testing. I have a twin-socket LGA2011 server with Xeon E5-2660 CPUs. If I turn off hyperthreading (assign no more than one thread per core on the VM) I get a score of 1350 on Cinebench. If I do 16 core / 32 threads it jumps to 1650. The price premium is not worth the Hyperthreading. Go ahead and jump up to the 8-core. It's slightly more money for a far better chip. Also, more fans means you have better cooling capacity at lower noise levels. You can change it out for whatever fans he wants. Just know that the case supports 140/120 fans on the front and top, and 120 on the rear. Yeah, I can wholeheartedly agree with you that the 9700k is definitely the best cpu for gaming. It all comes down to if OP's friend believes 30 bucks is worth 3-5%. Far better is quite an overstatement though imo. 6 hours ago, JayTee said: I haven't looked into the case you linked, but will he need some extra case fans? Like on his build? Just curious on cooling I thought it had more fans included when I looked at it, but it does not. My mistake. It has two 120mm fans, which I would place at the front.(Yes, this case supports bottom mounted fans, but no rear fan). Have your friend buy some nice corsair, be quiet, or noctua fans to place on the bottom intakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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