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so after 14 years of gaming I've finally decided to take the plunge into gaming on PCs. unfortunately I know less about computers than my grandmother (not even a joke). This put building my own PC out of the question so after a week or so of research I'm still relatively clueless but on my modest budget of $700 USD I found dell. Don't know too much about specs and all that but the only games I really play are team fortress elder scrolls 4 Oblivion and OW take it easy on me but I do plan on playing newer games as contrary to those mentioned, I do not live in the year 2006. So now I turn to the community and ask if you guys know about anything else out there that would potentially be better in that price range. Additionally if anyone else has any advice on a quality monitor or mouse I was thinking of picking up a samsung or another cheap model as my budget for that is just about $200 USD and I've really fallen in love with logictech in my mac gaming days don't roast and really can't spend more than $70 USD on that. I recognize the budgets are tight but any help is really appreciated as I'm in the dark here and the knowledge you guys possess never ceases to amaze me. 

 

 

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Having built my own PC, I couldn't tell you much other than donts:

DON'T buy the wrong Power supply (European ones are different than American ones)

DON'T Buy the case first(It might be too small)

DON'T make the mistake of buying parts that don't work together

DON'T make the mistake of opening and putting together the PC on a carpet (Static charge destroyed my first CPU)

 

Otherwise, it may be better to buy prebuilt, as Hard Drives & GPU's have become more expensive(My info may be outdated)

 

If you want to measure parts on how good they are, If it can run Planetside 2 with shadows on Ultra, its amazing.

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pcpartpicker.com allows you to put together a computer, and will show you the potential incompatabilities of different parts, and the prices, a very useful site. Also ryzen 2600x is such a good processor at the moment, and gpu prices are on their way down, so if you could hold out on integrated then that might pay off.

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After some careful assembling I came up with a set that is much better than the one you linked: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jJsYWD

Previously, I tried to go for an Intel setup, but it was like $100 over your budget. Though for an AMD setup, squeezing 4 more dollars shouldn't be that big of a issue?

The problem with buying prebuilt PCs is that they often come with low-grade motherboards and PSUs, banking on processors and graphics cards as a selling point. It's exceptionally risky, since a faulty low-quality PSU can damage the rest of your components permanently.

- CPU is a direct upgrade, even if you opt in the Ryzen option This one comes with a nice cooler too.

- HDD is basically the same quality, but there's nothing much to improve on in a first place.

- For a motherboard I chose an ASRock one, since I can tell from experience that ASRock mobos work without problems.

- Same with the memory. Speaking from experience, G.Skill is a solid brand.

- A GTX 1050 is a much better choice than an RX 560 performance and price wise.

- The choice for a case is really up to you, most of them should fit a Micro ATX motherboard in.

- A PSU is one of the components that you shouldn't be saving cash on because of the reasons above. Again, EVGA is a solid brand I can recommend.

- An optical drive needs just to work, nothing really to talk about.

- Same with OS, Windows 10 Home x64 is the right thing to choose.

Total price - $704,21

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17 hours ago, sscourge said:

Having built my own PC, I couldn't tell you much other than donts:

DON'T buy the wrong Power supply (European ones are different than American ones)

DON'T Buy the case first(It might be too small)

DON'T make the mistake of buying parts that don't work together

DON'T make the mistake of opening and putting together the PC on a carpet (Static charge destroyed my first CPU)

 

Otherwise, it may be better to buy prebuilt, as Hard Drives & GPU's have become more expensive(My info may be outdated)

 

If you want to measure parts on how good they are, If it can run Planetside 2 with shadows on Ultra, its amazing.

Modern components are quite resilient to ESD and unless you're running back and forth on a shag carpet while wearing socks, ESD isn't much of a concern unless you're stupidly unlucky. 

15 hours ago, AdamWTS said:

After some careful assembling I came up with a set that is much better than the one you linked: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jJsYWD

Previously, I tried to go for an Intel setup, but it was like $100 over your budget. Though for an AMD setup, squeezing 4 more dollars shouldn't be that big of a issue?

The problem with buying prebuilt PCs is that they often come with low-grade motherboards and PSUs, banking on processors and graphics cards as a selling point. It's exceptionally risky, since a faulty low-quality PSU can damage the rest of your components permanently.

- CPU is a direct upgrade, even if you opt in the Ryzen option This one comes with a nice cooler too.

- HDD is basically the same quality, but there's nothing much to improve on in a first place.

- For a motherboard I chose an ASRock one, since I can tell from experience that ASRock mobos work without problems.

- Same with the memory. Speaking from experience, G.Skill is a solid brand.

- A GTX 1050 is a much better choice than an RX 560 performance and price wise.

- The choice for a case is really up to you, most of them should fit a Micro ATX motherboard in.

- A PSU is one of the components that you shouldn't be saving cash on because of the reasons above. Again, EVGA is a solid brand I can recommend.

- An optical drive needs just to work, nothing really to talk about.

- Same with OS, Windows 10 Home x64 is the right thing to choose.

Total price - $704,21

You can lose the cooler as Ryzen's stock cooler is usually good enough to reach the realistic 4ghz max. 

A 1600 + 1050 is a pretty bad combination, it would make more sense to get a weaker CPU and a better GPU (it would actually make a lot more sense to buy used if that $700 needs to include a monitor+mouse).

The case is pretty mediocre for the price.

The PSU is pretty much garbage -- you can't shop by brand, all good brands also make crap. 

And the vast majority of people don't need an ODD these days. 

23 hours ago, SneakySpinarak said:

so after 14 years of gaming I've finally decided to take the plunge into gaming on PCs. unfortunately I know less about computers than my grandmother (not even a joke). This put building my own PC out of the question so after a week or so of research I'm still relatively clueless but on my modest budget of $700 USD I found dell. Don't know too much about specs and all that but the only games I really play are team fortress elder scrolls 4 Oblivion and OW take it easy on me but I do plan on playing newer games as contrary to those mentioned, I do not live in the year 2006. So now I turn to the community and ask if you guys know about anything else out there that would potentially be better in that price range. Additionally if anyone else has any advice on a quality monitor or mouse I was thinking of picking up a samsung or another cheap model as my budget for that is just about $200 USD and I've really fallen in love with logictech in my mac gaming days don't roast and really can't spend more than $70 USD on that. I recognize the budgets are tight but any help is really appreciated as I'm in the dark here and the knowledge you guys possess never ceases to amaze me. 

 

 

Is your budget $700 for the PC+monitor+mouse or is it $970 for everything? 

 

Assuming $700 for everything: 

Buy some stuff used.

 

Assuming $970 for everything: 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($54.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Patriot - Signature Line 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($78.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($36.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Hitachi - Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.00 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 580 8GB Red Devil Golden Sample Video Card  ($269.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($33.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($26.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($95.89 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Acer - H236HLbid 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($99.99 @ Best Buy) 
Mouse: Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse  ($34.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $931.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-02 19:21 EDT-0400

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2 hours ago, AwesomeMcCoolName said:

Modern components are quite resilient to ESD and unless you're running back and forth on a shag carpet while wearing socks, ESD isn't much of a concern unless you're stupidly unlucky. 

You can lose the cooler as Ryzen's stock cooler is usually good enough to reach the realistic 4ghz max. 

A 1600 + 1050 is a pretty bad combination, it would make more sense to get a weaker CPU and a better GPU (it would actually make a lot more sense to buy used if that $700 needs to include a monitor+mouse).

The case is pretty mediocre for the price.

The PSU is pretty much garbage -- you can't shop by brand, all good brands also make crap. 

And the vast majority of people don't need an ODD these days. 

Is your budget $700 for the PC+monitor+mouse or is it $970 for everything? 

 

Assuming $700 for everything: 

Buy some stuff used.

 

Assuming $970 for everything: 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($54.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Patriot - Signature Line 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($78.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($36.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Hitachi - Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.00 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 580 8GB Red Devil Golden Sample Video Card  ($269.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($33.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($26.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($95.89 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Acer - H236HLbid 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($99.99 @ Best Buy) 
Mouse: Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse  ($34.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $931.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-02 19:21 EDT-0400

ah yeah $970 was the total budget my bad for not making that clear, ^that's unbelievably helpful though can't thank you enough 

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