Sero. Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 minute ago, fat gorilla said: u have got to charge back, dont let him get away with this. Hes gonna feel stupid when he could have earned that money legit, but tried scamming and lost out. dumbass Hopefully they accept the charge back anyone have experience with chargebacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucif3r Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Obviously charge back and lawyering up is an option too Example http://es.me/en/esports-news/one-counter-strike-scammer-is-facing-jail-time-in-denmark/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torb Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Just now, Sero. said: Hopefully they accept the charge back anyone have experience with chargebacks You gotta show them as much proof as you can to for chargebacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sero. Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Lucif3r said: Obviously charge back and layering up is an option too Example http://es.me/en/esports-news/one-counter-strike-scammer-is-facing-jail-time-in-denmark/ ive lost a few hundred keys in items aswell but im going to contact my local police aswell as the canadian police as im going to file a law suite against him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sero. Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Torb | Elite Spell Trader™ said: You gotta show them as much proof as you can to for chargebacks i have screenshots chat logs you name it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat gorilla Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sero. said: i have screenshots chat logs you name it i didnt know him to well, he could have lied to me...but he told me he was 16. I talked to him on discord and it didnt seem unreasonable for him to be so young. Maybe those who knew him better can confirm this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sero. Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 minute ago, fat gorilla said: i didnt know him to well, he could have lied to me...but he told me he was 16. I talked to him on discord and it didnt seem unreasonable for him to be so young. Maybe those who knew him better can confirm this. https://backpack.tf/item/6860980077https://backpack.tf/item/6860967660 there items where part of the deal aswell he sound much older he stated he was selling his hats to go college Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat gorilla Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sero. said: https://backpack.tf/item/6860980077https://backpack.tf/item/6860967660 there items where part of the deal aswell he sound much older he stated he was selling his hats to go college well who knows....,you, and the rest of us who lost items can just kiss that money goodbye. But u can get that paypal money back through chargebacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat gorilla Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 also, im friends with the guy who lost the scorching BOA, hes offline rn...dont think he knows yet. Ill have him submit as much evidence as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sero. Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 not fussed about the items more so the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat gorilla Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Sero. said: not fussed about the items more so the money as you should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat gorilla Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sero. said: not fussed about the items more so the money i think ur main hurdle is explaining tf2 items to paypal. The virtual economist made a video about how he was able to properly convey to paypal his situation and was able to get back his money. He gives the whole doc he used and how he explained it. I would def go watch that video, and if u can, get in contact with him. heres the video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torb Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 minute ago, fat gorilla said: i think ur main hurdle is explaining tf2 items to paypal. The virtual economist made a video about how he was able to properly convey to paypal his situation and was able to get back his money. He gives the whole doc he used and how he explained it. I would def go watch that video, and if u can, get in contact with him. definitely agree with this, hes got some experience with this and i bet he'd be happy to help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sero. Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Torb | Elite Spell Trader™ said: definitely agree with this, hes got some experience with this and i bet he'd be happy to help 3 minutes ago, fat gorilla said: i think ur main hurdle is explaining tf2 items to paypal. The virtual economist made a video about how he was able to properly convey to paypal his situation and was able to get back his money. He gives the whole doc he used and how he explained it. I would def go watch that video, and if u can, get in contact with him. thanks guys for the help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat gorilla Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Just now, Sero. said: thanks guys for the help he stole a 200 key hat from me, not anywhere near what you lost, but it still hurts. I want him get as little benefit out of this as possible. And by you successfully charging back that insane amount of money...you, and everyone who got scammed wins. Atleast thats how I view it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sero. Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Just now, fat gorilla said: he stole a 200 key hat from me, not anywhere near what you lost, but it still hurts. I want him get as little benefit out of this as possible. And by you successfully charging back that insane amount of money...you, and everyone who got scammed wins. Atleast thats how I view it. im gonna take it further with lawyers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat gorilla Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Just now, Sero. said: im gonna take it further with lawyers i mean good luck to ya, but id first focus on getting that money charged back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Teeny Tiny Cat Posted June 8, 2018 Administrators Share Posted June 8, 2018 Please can anyone scammed in any way make a report on site with the evidence Carnage described. Report on steam with the same evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayTuut Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 14 minutes ago, Sero. said: im gonna take it further with lawyers You should be able to charge back, paypal does this with virtual items now if you have proof, its not hard. But a question. Did you do "pay for goods/services" or "send money to friends/family" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffyy Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Accidentally posted twice, see my reply below Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
googlies9 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Oof if you selected "send money to friends/family" it might be more difficult to win the case. However, if you can get someone at Paypal who understands these types of online scams, similar to the one in TheVirtualEconomists' video, you should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffyy Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 34 minutes ago, Sero. said: not fussed about the items more so the money It's very rare that PayPal sides with the person selling virtual goods in the instance of a chargeback. You have a good chance of winning regardless of what evidence either side gives. Virtual items are NOT protected under seller protection so if you paid via goods and services you're in a pretty good spot. However, if it was with a card, even if you win the case PayPal will file a case against your credit card company to retrieve the money. That's how I won one of my chargeback cases once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trash Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 https://help.steampowered.com/en/accountdata/GetFriendMessagesLog any victims of the scams go here to retrieve the chat messages, make sure to mouse over the name so in the bottom right corner is shows the preview for his steam profile also go into your trading history and take an uncropped full screen screenshot mousing over his name to show the link preview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xergoyf Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 damn this sucks for any of the victims :/ The brokering scam is one of the easiest to fall for, esp with ppl looking trustworthy. Honestly Merp never seemed like the trustworthy type tbh; he was always pretty rude and would trade scammers left and right and talk about other sketchy stuff on mic on trade servers. Not like I expected this but at the same time I am not surprised in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uro Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Just 1 rule: Do NOT trust anybody on internet. That's pretty simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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