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Yeah, whats up with that shit ? like people find the holocaust, the death of millions of people, psychopath nation that almost destroyed the world, a funny thing ? why isn't no one doing a god damn thing ? I do understand that you cant do much about people exposing their support towards those stuff on the chat or mic, but i encountered lots of people owning a freaking Objector with a Swastika logo on it, what the hell is going on ? why are those people not freaking banned yet ? maybe they have the right to own everything they want and do what they want with their objectors, but in my opinion, as long as it relates to something as sad and destructive as the holocaust, there are no excuses, should be banned. World War 2 is not a freaking joke, its probably the most cruel thing that happened in the history of this planet, not just for the Jews but for the entire world, so cut if off, and whoever giggles about it and thinks its funny to own an Objector with Swastika on it, should try to giggle when he will be perm banned.

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The reason people apply these, is to get a response, just like the one you've given. I get it's a bit annoying, but this crap has been happening since the Habbo raids of 2006, and basically so long as people can do this people will continue to do so. I think banning is a bit far, and given that you would need people to manually review an image, that's kind of a waste of labour and time. Swastikas aren't great but I swear everyone on the Vatican has either a Hentai, furry or some other weird crap on their sprays and objectors, which I find far more disturbing.

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Ekhm

 

USSR and Mao Zedong

 

Well, I agree with it, but Valve can't monitor everything. Just make a screenshot, get his nick and report.

Also remember that the swastika is treated like that mostly only in Europe (people see it negatively because of the germans so remember this too). Blame the education here and the internet, but mostly the second one. So like I said - report and move on, ignore.

 

Also uh, this triggered me:

"psychopath nation that almost destroyed the world" -  eeeee, nope.

"not just for the Jews but for the entire world" - and ofc Jews.

 

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Is not funny, in fact is really stupid to laugh about a big tragedy, but we're living in a free world, and you can't tell the people what they can or can't do. In my case i don't want to be censurated by what is politically correct or what is not, in fact i think no one has to be censurated, because with that logic, your name will be offensive to someone who live in Africa and their family was killed by a drug dealer. There's many things that you can find offensive, but you have to live with them without getting crazy for it. 

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5 minutes ago, Ninjah said:

The reason people apply these, is to get a response, just like the one you've given. I get it's a bit annoying, but this crap has been happening since the Habbo raids of 2006, and basically so long as people can do this people will continue to do so. I think banning is a bit far, and given that you would need people to manually review an image, that's kind of a waste of labour and time. Swastikas aren't great but I swear everyone on the Vatican has either a Hentai, furry or some other weird crap on their sprays and objectors, which I find far more disturbing.

So imma tell you this, banning is the LEAST thing you can do for people that create a joke out of something as horrible as world war 2, and i am sorry, but in my point of view, some anime porn pictures and other stuff cannot be even compared to this, we talking about the most horrible thing that happened in the history, people were buried fucking alive, so much people lost their lives, their families, so much fear that remained in people who survived that disaster, like how can you even compare something to this ? a perm ban, is the least thing they deserve, no questions, its not a topic to discuss, people would keep doing it unless u teach them a tough lesson, simple as that ! 

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Nothing good ever comes from censoring people. Just because something offends you or bothers really means nothing at all and should not be used as a reason to ban people. Jokes you don't find funny or things you think are in bad taste are purely subjective. African drug lords are pretty bad, not a very nice thing to be going around calling yourself, maybe we should slap you with a ban for something so vile..Wait no, that's a stupid idea.

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You guys are absolutely correct, never thought about it that way, deep apologies and imma change my nickname hopefully by tomorrow, just need to think about a new decent original nickname. 

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2 hours ago, AfricanDrugLord-GTA 5 said:

World War 2 is not a freaking joke, its probably the most cruel thing that happened in the history of this planet, not just for the Jews but for the entire world

WW2 was horrible, but it's far from the "most cruel thing that happened in the history of this planet".

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9 minutes ago, AwesomeMcCoolName said:

WW2 was horrible, but it's far from the "most cruel thing that happened in the history of this planet".

lolwhat? 

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I don’t really come into these topics but I don’t think you should really be complaining about world war 2 by calling yourself an African drug lord . World war 2 may have been the worst thing in the past but I believe drugs are the worst at the moment so maybe think it over

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I'm not gonna ban anyone for this on backpack.tf at least, you can report on steam but I don't know if they'd do anything. I will say I won't stand for offensive decals in classifieds so you are welcome to report listings and they will be removed.

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3 hours ago, AfricanDrugLord-GTA 5 said:

Yeah, whats up with that shit ? like people find the holocaust, the death of millions of people, psychopath nation that almost destroyed the world, a funny thing ? why isn't no one doing a god damn thing ? I do understand that you cant do much about people exposing their support towards those stuff on the chat or mic, but i encountered lots of people owning a freaking Objector with a Swastika logo on it, what the hell is going on ? why are those people not freaking banned yet ? maybe they have the right to own everything they want and do what they want with their objectors, but in my opinion, as long as it relates to something as sad and destructive as the holocaust, there are no excuses, should be banned. World War 2 is not a freaking joke, its probably the most cruel thing that happened in the history of this planet, not just for the Jews but for the entire world, so cut if off, and whoever giggles about it and thinks its funny to own an Objector with Swastika on it, should try to giggle when he will be perm banned.

i think....this is....a bait?

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3 hours ago, Ninjah said:

But this crap has been happening since the Habbo raids of 2006,

.... farout man... memories.... habbo was the shit back then.

 

 

Its just a symbol I 'spose that they just meme out of, it's not that they are supporting it, they are just like haha look at me im a nazi hurr durr. You can literally make a full pyro nazi outfit with the patriot (painted black/baclavas if u wish) + one of the gas masks + the coat. So I mean.... It's not much you can do.

 

As humans the easiest way to deal with tragedies is to make fun of them, look at all the 9/11 jokes (looks like they've died down though). Laughter helps get over pain I guess, or makes it less serious for them to think about.

 

*shrugs* It's the internet, and I'm not sure many people are offended by it, I've never seen anyone called out for having one.

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1st of all, thanks to the people that criticized my nickname, i changed it, you were pretty correct. Second, to all the people here that think banning people for something as stupid as owning something like that, and i should just ignore and not pay attention, yeah I don't think you realize like what the hell you are making fun of, i am half Jewish myself, my grandmother survived the Holocaust, the thing she told me the Nazi people did to the Jews, and not only the Jews but also the way they treated the Soviet soldiers they catched, is just shocking. I personally think NOT paying attention and moving on, is the wrong thing to do, and you need to do as much as possible in order to stop that phenomenon, its not a joke, and not just for me, so much people that do understand how serious it is would agree with me, but it just feels like you don't really care so much about it which makes me absolutely dissapointed. And whoever said here that the holocaust isn't the most horrible thing that happened in our history, please go take some history lessons cause even something as hideous as 9/11 cant be compared to 5 yeas of murder and pain. 

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1 hour ago, AfricanDrugLord-GTA 5 said:

1st of all, thanks to the people that criticized my nickname, i changed it, you were pretty correct. Second, to all the people here that think banning people for something as stupid as owning something like that, and i should just ignore and not pay attention, yeah I don't think you realize like what the hell you are making fun of, i am half Jewish myself, my grandmother survived the Holocaust, the thing she told me the Nazi people did to the Jews, and not only the Jews but also the way they treated the Soviet soldiers they catched, is just shocking. I personally think NOT paying attention and moving on, is the wrong thing to do, and you need to do as much as possible in order to stop that phenomenon, its not a joke, and not just for me, so much people that do understand how serious it is would agree with me, but it just feels like you don't really care so much about it which makes me absolutely dissapointed. And whoever said here that the holocaust isn't the most horrible thing that happened in our history, please go take some history lessons cause even something as hideous as 9/11 cant be compared to 5 yeas of murder and pain. 

I know all about the Holocaust and have studied it quite thoroughly, but it still wasn't the worst moment in history. Someone should probably do a bit of digging into Chinese history. Also, no one considers 9/11 to be anything even remotely on the scale of even a petty skirmish let alone something as serious as genocide/a war.

 

As for taking it more seriously.......most people who do it are joking, and even those that don't still deserve the right to free speech (not that the right of free speech applies on private property). Learn to not be offended by every joke around you just because you find it in poor taste.

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freedom of expression is still a thing right? 

anyways ... not debating one side or another. I'm a proud German. My grandpa fought in WW2 for the Axis, while one of my great uncles fought for Allied forces. The swastika is in itself a symbol of a government party, no different than the hammer and sickle. Both represent darker times in world history. Are you pushing to have Apartheid flag colors, Communist flags, rape images etc... all banned? Seems like oppression then, doesn't it. Getting butthurt over symbols on objectors? Seems like something political. TF2 is an online FPS. Politics in an FPS? no thanks. Come online to game, have fun, relax, and forget about seriousness. Hardly the forum for a debate on world history, ethics or beliefs.

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Look, I respect your opinion Drug Lord, I would like to point a few things though. I am also Jewish, and my great grandmother never made it out of Germany. I understand why you find the swatstika particularly offensive as it’s been a symbol for inhumane and horrendous acts against Jewish people. You must understand though, the people who put swatstika’s on their objector are doing it as a joke. They aren’t real Nazis I think you totally understand that. I thjnk the reason your angry is because you don’t believe the holocaust is an event that should be made fun of and joked about. Indeed it was a terrible event, but as a Jewish myself you must understand that those are things in the past. People love to make retarded jokes about everything and some are funny. A bit ago and still now there are jokes on YouTube videos like children in Africa could have eaten that, or jokes about France getting pounded in WW1 and WW2. War is horrific and should be avoided. But can we punish people who find amusement in past events, and see fooling around? I don’t think so. People in 2018 are triggered over the smallest thing. Just grow some fucking balls and speak what you believe in. There are Nazis in this world, there are crazy trump supporters who want all of America armed with guns. Do I agree with them? No. Should they be judged and isolated from society? Perhaps. Should they be killed off or excluded to a certain place? I don’t think so. I totally respect and agree in some regards with your opinion mate, but that doesn’t mean we can enforce our beliefs on everyone. 

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You have to grow a thick skin to this type of stuff as soon as you come online. The steam community is home to a large variety of fruitcakes, the meme swastika guys are only one of thousands of type of purposely offensive people. Best bet is to ignore what youve seen and carry on, as long as you dont continue the cycle of offensive memery thats all you can do really.

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I am sorry but i totally disagree with you, it became a normal thing today, and a ban is not an execution, people that make fun of such a horrible event should get what they deserve, a temp ban with a fair warning wont kill anyone and is totally legitimate. People who are speeking about the freedom of expression lol, you have no idea of what you talking about, go study a bit more about this horrible war before you open your mouthes. freedom of expression lol, what a joke. 

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The way I see it:

 

1. We took a turn to be a more p.c world but forgot to stop and are still spiraling. Now a lot of random people get real offended by stupid shit and we must sympathize -being so p.c and all. After a day without being able to say trivial shit like: (content deleted to not hurt someones feeling), it will get ugly when you get on the web. I think this song says it perfect if you change "everyone" to "no one" 

 

 

2. ..or theres just a lot of Hindus and Buddhists that loves to play TF2. The swastika is a 5000 year old sacred symbol after all!

Would Jews obliterate/expunge(?) the Star of David if it was used by Mao?? or Stalin??

 

Which segues nice to:

11 hours ago, AfricanDrugLord-GTA 5 said:

the most horrible thing that happened in the history

 

6 hours ago, AfricanDrugLord-GTA 5 said:

whoever said here that the holocaust isn't the most horrible thing that happened in our history, please go take some history lessons

 

Holocaust was bad, but common be serious... It barely makes top 3 in term of death toll

  1. Mao Zedong. Over 75 Million killed
  2. Joseph Stalin. Est. 20-25 Million killed
  3. Adolf Hitler. 12 Million (50-55% Jews, 45-50% non-Jews

When it comes to Genocide(% of population wiped) I recommend googling, most have names to hard for me to remember

  • Tutsi
  • Native Americans
  • Pygmies
  • Kazakhs
  • Chechen

and others totally gone just in the last century

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