puddingkip Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Let me start off with saying I'm in no way homophobic. Why would I be afraid of my sister? Now, this thread isn't about if it should be legal or not (hell yeah) but about the thread question. For other discussions regarding homosexuality there are other threads lying around gathering dust in this subforum. So to topic. How natural is homosexuality? If it is a natural / divine design, what purpose does it have. Excepting the very new techniques, homosexuality makes a species go extinct after a generation. But not only humans have it, there are reported cases of homosexual flamingoes, penguins and dolphins. So it isn't cultural either. Your opinions on this?
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Since people are born gay, its clearly natural, as for its purpose....maybe its too keep there from being too many men and not enough women? or something like that...I know during the Renaissance it was normal (and expected) for most people to have a gay relationship during their lifetime--so it could be to allow men/women to have sex without taking any of the risks (i.e. pregnancy). And the latter could fall in line with what the bible has to say about it: "A man may not lay with another man like he would a woman." i.e. a relationship with a man would have a different purpose then a relationship with a woman (sex vs. family).
Kevin the Chicken God Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 If there's a hole there's a way someone was gonna try it eventually, some enjoyed it more than others, it isnt an evolutionary thing as much as it is a preference thing
puddingkip Posted January 24, 2014 Author Posted January 24, 2014 Since people are born gay, its clearly natural, as for its purpose....maybe its too keep there from being too many men and not enough women? or something like that...I know during the Renaissance it was normal (and expected) for most people to have a gay relationship during their lifetime--so it could be to allow men/women to have sex without taking any of the risks (i.e. pregnancy). And the latter could fall in line with what the bible has to say about it: "A man may not lay with another man like he would a woman." i.e. a relationship with a man would have a different purpose then a relationship with a woman (sex vs. family). Well the human population is very much not at its top in the renaissance. The gay part there is to resemble ancient Athens, where homosexuality and pedophilia was very common. And my (gay) biology teacher told me that there was some way that is was natural with men and cultural with women, but I don't trust teachers.
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 If there's a hole there's a way someone was gonna try it eventually, some enjoyed it more than others, it isnt an evolutionary thing as much as it is a preference thing Well the human population is very much not at its top in the renaissance. The gay part there is to resemble ancient Athens, where homosexuality and pedophilia was very common. And my (gay) biology teacher told me that there was some way that is was natural with men and cultural with women, but I don't trust teachers. Well, if you have to ask if homosexuality is normal, is a blow-job normal or eating out normal? Neither do anything for procreation (aside from being a turn on, which can increase fertility--but thats beside the point). My point is, there were times in history when gay sex wasn't considered weird.
puddingkip Posted January 24, 2014 Author Posted January 24, 2014 Natural. /end of thread But why would something with this little purpose be natural? What is the benefit of it? I mean we have the now useless tail bones and appendix, but I can't think of a biological purpose of homosexuality Define natural? I was unclear again huh? So not how normal it is, but how biological it is. How does homosexuality make sense from a population view?
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 But why would something with this little purpose be natural? What is the benefit of it? Well, if you have to ask if homosexuality is normal, is a blow-job normal or eating out normal? Neither do anything for procreation (aside from being a turn on, which can increase fertility--but thats beside the point). My point is, there were times in history when gay sex wasn't considered weird. Another reason could have to do with the way people are "made". Everyone starts out as a woman, so its only natural for a couple wires to get crossed every now and then.
jorisk322 Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 nat·u·ral (nchr-l, nchrl) adj. 1. Present in or produced by nature. Language-wise, I would say yes immediately. ^ I do think it's natural. As for it having a purpose: I don't think anything has a purpose. Life doesn't have a purpose, it's just that things that don't live or don't stay alive have trouble creating offspring. That's why evolutions happens as it does. Gay people will probably not produce offspring, but they are as useless as everything and everyone else.
puddingkip Posted January 24, 2014 Author Posted January 24, 2014 Language-wise, I would say yes immediately. ^ I do think it's natural. As for it having a purpose: I don't think anything has a purpose. Life doesn't have a purpose, it's just that things that don't live or don't stay alive have trouble creating offspring. That's why evolutions happens as it does. Gay people will probably not produce offspring, but they are as useless as everything and everyone else. Hello Mr. Happy... And damn it nobody understands what I was trying to bring up
jorisk322 Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Hello Mr. Happy... And damn it nobody understands what I was trying to bring up Thinking nothing has a purpose doesn't make me sad. Social anxiety, loneliness and being pretty sure when people die they'll just disappear do. I guess you're trying to discuss wether or not gay people being born is beneficial to the continued existence/survival of the human race? In that case this might be interesting. To me it looks like there might be some kind of gender-regulation going on.
Kevin the Chicken God Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 I guess to answer your question, it isnt natural at all it serves no purpose whatsoever its all about preference
jorisk322 Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 I guess to answer your question, it isnt natural at all it serves no purpose whatsoever its all about preference If it's all about preference and it's not natural because it doesn't have a purpose, does that mean liking cheese isn't natural? Cheese is bad for your health. BTW, before I read the article about the brother-thing, I was basically convinced homosexuality was just a mistake of nature, evolution-wise, similar to down-syndrome and the like.
Kevin the Chicken God Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 If it's all about preference and it's not natural because it doesn't have a purpose, does that mean liking cheese isn't natural? Cheese is bad for your health. BTW, before I read the article about the brother-thing, I was basically convinced homosexuality was just a mistake of nature, evolution-wise, similar to down-syndrome and the like. cheese has a purpose :I
jorisk322 Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 cheese has a purpose :I Alan Turing would be glad to know cheese is more useful than gay people to you.
Kevin the Chicken God Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Alan Turing would be glad to know cheese is more useful than gay people to you. wut cheese was used to provide calcium, fat, and protein, as well as some other stuff being gay has no evolutionary purpose Im not saying cheese>gay people xD
jorisk322 Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 wut cheese was used to provide calcium, fat, and protein, as well as some other stuff being gay has no evolutionary purpose Im not saying cheese>gay people xD Being gay has no evolutionary purpose (debatable, but ok..) Cheese has no foody purpose (there are many better things to eat than cheese) Your argument seems a bit off. You may say 'But cheese is delicious', to which a gay person could reply: 'just like men!'
★Jest★ Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Let me start off with saying I'm in no way homophobic. Why would I be afraid of my sister? Now, this thread isn't about if it should be legal or not (hell yeah) but about the thread question. For other discussions regarding homosexuality there are other threads lying around gathering dust in this subforum. So to topic. How natural is homosexuality? If it is a natural / divine design, what purpose does it have. Excepting the very new techniques, homosexuality makes a species go extinct after a generation. But not only humans have it, there are reported cases of homosexual flamingoes, penguins and dolphins. So it isn't cultural either. Your opinions on this? Homosexual. Homo(Same)Sexual. I think that means your sister likes other women? I don't understand what you mean. Homosexuality can go for both sexes. Like a Homosexual women likes other women and a Homosexual man likes other men Also I think it is not a natural thing. I believe it is a choice.
Kevin the Chicken God Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Being gay has no evolutionary purpose (debatable, but ok..) Cheese has no foody purpose (there are many better things to eat than cheese) Your argument seems a bit off. You may say 'But cheese is delicious', to which a gay person could reply: 'just like men!' well, nowadays cheese isnt as useful but back in the day when fat was really important, and you needed dense food like cheese to provide it, Id say it was pretty important also, I cant stop thinking about being in a cafeteria, eating a pizza, and saying "pizza is delicious" to which someone repsonds "just like men!" prolly one of the funniest things Ive heard this year
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 well, nowadays cheese isnt as useful but back in the day when fat was really important, and you needed dense food like cheese to provide it, Id say it was pretty important also, I cant stop thinking about being in a cafeteria, eating a pizza, and saying "pizza is delicious" to which someone repsonds "just like men!" prolly one of the funniest things Ive heard this year You do realize cheese isn't natural right? Cheese is made from milk, milk is baby food--theres a reason why women only lactate right after giving birth, and only for a few months after that. So, its fair to say that all milk products are un-natural.
muffins990 Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Another reason could have to do with the way people are "made". Everyone starts out as a woman, so its only natural for a couple wires to get crossed every now and then. I agree with this. I think everyone is generated as a woman at first and overtime during the mixing of cells, the x (male) either overpowers the y (female) or is defeated. In a proper world it will either result in YY (female) or XY (male). Since this is not a proper world mutations and errors occur such as XX male syndrome when u have 2 male chromosomes but have noticeable feminine characteristics. Some of those characteristics, I feel, contribute to sexuality which is coded at birth but unreadable until you test around.
ThatOtherChigga #Mack Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 How does homosexuality make sense from a population view? If everyone were homosexual there would be no future population
Knick347b Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 The human body is not physically designed (whether divine or by nature) for sex between two people of the same gender. Anal sex is normally painful, dirty, and dry without hours/days of preparation. It requires artificial lube and condoms for safety, and even then can be very harmful. Scissoring just... defies logic. Homosexuals are also at a much higher risk for STD's, HIV and AIDS and are diagnosed at a higher rate.
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