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Unusual Taunt Pricing Event - Setting up teams

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Timeline:

Saturday - Day 1: Unusual Taunt Suggestion Day

- Tournament starts 1PM GMT on Saturday and runs through Midnight GMT on Monday

- Get in our discord server -https://discord.gg/j7cMkGF  - for updates, help, FAQs

- Assignments for taunts to price / suggestions to make will be given 15 minutes before the tournament starts

 

Sunday - Day 2: All-Class Hat Update Day

- Submit a request for hats to price by midnight GMT on Saturday night

- If you do not submit a request, these will be given to you on Sunday

- Assignments for hats to price / suggestions to make will be given at 12:45PM GMT on Sunday

 

Monday - Day 3: Outdated Hat Update Day

- Credit will be given for pricing any hat last updated more than 1 year ago 

- Submit request for hats to price by midnight GMT on Sunday night

- If you do not submit a request, these will be given to you on Monday

- Assignments for hats to price / suggestions to make will be given at 12:45PM GMT on Monday

 

Monday-Tuesday

Mods will handle all suggestions that were made during the time period of the tournament and assign points to each team based on the point system below. Winners will be announced end of Tuesday or Wednesday and will be given their prizes as time permits for Cares / Geel. 

 

Point Scoring

Points will only be given to suggestions made by ONE designated person on each team after 1PM GMT / 9AM EST. Points will only be given for completing suggestions for assigned effects to that team (i.e. if you are assigned scorching, you will only receive credit for pricing scorching hats). 

 

- One point per suggestion accepted. 

- Negative two points per suggestion closed. 

- One bonus point for every suggestion over 100 keys in value. 

- Bonus one point for every 5 suggestions made for a single effect. 

- Zero points for B/O drop suggestions. You can make them. You will not receive points for them. Points only for suggestions based on sales.

- Starting Day 2, mini suggestions converted to formal, published suggestions will be given 1 point as long as the mini is not for an all-class hat (to prevent stepping on another team's toes). This is to encourage putting effort into minis and will help all teams get more points for the same amount of effort. 

 

Mods reserve the right to not give points / not give negative points based on each suggestion. There may be situations where a mod may say that the suggestion needs to be closed, but points will not be deducted (i.e. tough situations where exact range is unclear). 

 

Rules

- No B/O only drops (you can make them, you won't get points for them). 

- You may update any unusual that is outdated by more than 1 WEEK

- No direct copy-pasting old suggestions. A hat can be updated, even if it was priced a week ago. However, your range cannot be the same and you MUST have new sales since the last suggestion was made. You may copy-paste the other sales from the last suggestion and include in the range, but it cannot be identical. 

- For taunts and all-class hats, start with only sales from the last month. If there are no sales in the last month, then go to sales in the last 2 months. For hats outdated by more than 1 year (and only for these hats), you may select sales up to 3 months old. 

- Do not use taunts to update other taunts or hats unless they are a small part of the trade (less than 50%). These are only to be used as supportive proof in a suggestion.

 

 

Tournament Set-Up:

 

Division 1: Pre-Made Teams

Team with the most number of points will win this division. No mod help will be available for suggestion help. You can still ask logistical questions.

 

Division 2: Teams Made by the Mods 

Winners will be decided based on a vote among mods. We will be looking for total number of points but also how well the team worked together and take into account things like experience, effort, etc. 

 

Mods will be available to help all of the teams in Division 2. No assigned mod per group but rather we will be on standby to help as needed. 

 

 

Prizes

Overall first place team based on points will receive $300 in the form of a marketplace.tf gift card, courtesy of Geel. Second place team will receive a $100 gift card. First place team by the mod team vote will receive a $50 gift card. You may divide these up however you want as a team. 

 

First place team in each division will receive premium credit, the amount of which is tbd. 

 

All participants will receive donator credit for perks on the site, also tbd. 

 

 

 

Teams will be added below. I will give one key to each person on the team with the best team name (if you come up with one). It will be the best team name in my opinion  :P

 

Division 1 Teams

 

Team 1: The Official Ravenholmzombies Fan Club 

HarryG; SpotlightR; Lila; Jarool

Designated Suggester: Spotlight

 

Team 2: The Special Tea Sippin' Schoolboys

Lemons, Zeus, Umer, Bull

Designated Suggester: Zeus, Umer

 

Team 3: Woifjob

Erik, Moose, Gent, Master Throne Crimson

Designated Suggester: will change

 

Team 4: Busy People

Thermal, The Mighty Bob, Alberny, Sin

Designated Suggester: will change
 

 

Division 2 Teams

Team 1:  The Outdated Squad

K1ng - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/21224-k1ng/

Smokey - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/26463-j4f-%E2%9C%AB%E2%88%B4%E1%94%95%C9%B1%E3%80%87%D2%9D%CE%BE%E2%88%B4%E2%9C%AB/

Mastikhor - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/21204-mastikhor/

The Proclave - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/10201-theprocave/

Master of the Hellish Yard - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/19056-master-of-the-hellish-yard/

Designated Suggester: The Proclave

 

Team 2: Happy Suggestion Friends

HappysEdits - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/17025-happysedits/

Wokath - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/13409-wokath/

Vittoo - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/28957-vittoo/

Andro - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/21657-andro/

MCBros - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/1636-themcbros99/

Designated Suggester: HappysEdits

 

Team 3:

Shuffle Spy - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/19072-%E1%B4%BE%E1%B4%BE%E1%B4%B9-shuffle-spy-7309/

Virtus Pro - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/30554-virtuspro/

Barack Obama - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/30567-barack-obama/

Beaser - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/26892-beaser/

Simple - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/10476-simple/

Designated Suggester: Simple, Shuffle Spy

 

Team 4: Last But Not Least

Xergoyf - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/27690-xergoyf/

Apo - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/18315-apo/

ADHD - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/16435-ad%E2%9A%A1hd/

INF SnoopDogge - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/26974-inf-snooppdogge-i-tradetf/

Designated Suggester: Xergoyf

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Post Event Survey Results (27/34 responses)

 

If you haven't filled it out, you are still welcome to take it. 

 

Question 1: Do you think the competition was set up fairly for all teams?

 

Yes: 82%

No: 18%

 

Question 2: How do you feel about the length of the event?

 

Too Long: 26%

Too Short: 15%

Just Right: 59%

 

Question 3: When would you like to see the next event?

 

Sometime this year: 92%

Sometime next year: 8%

 

This year:

June-July: 78%

August-September: 18%

October-November: 4%

 

Question 4: Do you think everyone in your group made a reasonable effort to help / contribute / make it fun for other members?

 

Yes: 57%

No: 43%

 

General Comments and My Responses:

 

Concern: Many people asked for a Friday-Sunday event instead of a Saturday-Monday event. Also some complaints about giving more heads up and planning it in advance / allowing more time to set up teams.

 

Response: Yeah, this was all an issue that could not be avoided this time due to my schedule. More on this later. This will certainly be addressed before any future event. Huge number of people requested the next event this summer. I'll ask the mods to think about putting one together in July if they are able.

 

 

Concern: A few people requested a badge for the event.

 

Response: You're in for a pleasant surprise :)

 

 

Concern: A few people were upset that the teams weren't split up fairly. 

 

Response: Here was my algorithm to set up teams.

 

(1) My number 1 priority was getting people in the same time zones together. You can't be a team if you are not on at the same time. I asked everyone to put their available times and 90% of the people responded. You'll notice that most of the teams were on at roughly the same time. About 1 person was not on at the same time per team - usually that person never gave their availability. If this was the case, I put them in a team of 5 to reduce that disadvantage. 

 

(2) Second priority was to make sure at least 1 experienced suggester was on each team - every group had at least 1.

 

(3) Third priority was to make sure at least 2 suggesters had premium on each team - every group had exactly 2

 

(4) Then I moved people around to balance things based on what I thought was suggestion ability. I ranked imo the top suggesters (not based on suggestions accepted but based on ability) and paired the most experienced / best with the least experienced.

 

This whole process could be a little better if we announce the event earlier and if we get times from 100% of the participants. We'll probably make this a requirement to enter. One thing we could consider is have people give a list of times and require them to check-in for at least 50% of those times to get participation credit. This would ensure people who say they will show up actually show up. 

 

 

Concern: People going with quantity over quality

 

Response: We were pretty lenient this time about handing out negative points. We want this to be fun and not punitive, especially for less experienced people. Having said that, I hope after seeing the mod vote, this concern will be a non-issue. Mod votes heavily weighed quality and teamwork over points. 

 

 

Concern: People pre-making suggestions based on requests. 

 

Response: I think this could be modified a bit. I like the ability to have team make requests for hats they want and also want to reward teams for due diligence. What I may do is allow for one requested effect and where we hand out the second effect randomly / evenly among teams. 

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Team Results and Awards for Pricing Event #1

What an amazing event it has been. Over 700 unusuals have been successfully updated and over 1000 suggestions total were made during the 72 hours of the event. A lot of people poured a LOT of time into this event. We are giving everyone who participated (key part of that word being "participate") a participation badge. But that's really the least we can do. Thanks to all of you who participated, thanks to the mod team for helping out, and a huge thanks to Geel, Cares, and Brad for sponsoring and supporting the event. We couldn't have done it without all of you. On to the winners then.... 

 

ALL teams received donation credit based on points accumulated. We awarded a total of $350 in backpack.tf credit to go along with Geel's extremely generous $450 in marketplace.tf credit. 

 

With a late comeback while the Busy People team was, well, busy... and winner of the top overall prize --- Team Raven

 

First Overall Team - Team Raven - 175 Points

Please send me a PM here or in discord with how you would like to divide your $300 marketplace credit. Cares is updating your site user profiles with 3 months of premium credit plus donation credit for points accumulated. 

 

Second Overall Team - Busy People - 149 points

Please send me a PM here or in discord with how you would like to divide your $100 marketplace credit. Cares is updating your site user profiles with 2 months of premium credit plus donation credit for points accumulated. 

 

Mod's Choice Team - Team 3 - 55 points

Please send me a PM here or in discord with how you would like to divide your $50 marketplace credit. Cares is updating your site user profiles with 1 month of premium credit plus donation credit for points accumulated. 

 

MVP of the Event

Happysedits - What an absolutely extraordinary performance during the event. You may have had to resuggest a lot of suggestions, but you gave absolutely everything you had to it, so we would like to give you a little token of our appreciation - 2 months of premium and a unique badge given just to you on your backpack.tf profile. 

 

Best Team Name - Last But Not Least

They did actually finish last in points, but they certainly weren't "least" by any measure. They submitted high quality suggestions with 38 submitted, only 5 resuggested, and 0 rejected. Quality over quantity. You'll get a trade offer from me for a key each. 

 

All other teams received donation and premium credit as follows:

3rd Place - 1 month premium, 4th place - 14 days premium, 5th place - 7 days premium, 6th place - 3 days premium (these are all granted per person)

Donation credit granted at a rate of 5 cents per point. 

 

Rest of the scores:

Third Place - Team Woifjob - 125 points

Fourth Place - Happy Suggestion Team - 108 points

Fifth Place - Schoolboys - 81 points

Sixth Place - Team 3 - 55 points

Seventh Place - The Outdated Squad - 50 points

Eighth Place - Last but not least - 40 points

 

Thanks again for an amazing event. This will be last major thing I do for the website before I'm stepping down at the end of the month. It's been an awesome time watching all of you grow and mature here!

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MVP of the Event

Happysedits - What an absolutely extraordinary performance during the event. You may have had to resuggest a lot of suggestions, but you gave absolutely everything you had to it, so we would like to give you a little token of our appreciation - 2 months of premium and a unique badge given just to you on your backpack.tf profile. 

 

Yay

 

 

This will be last major thing I do for the website before I'm stepping down at the end of the month. It's been an awesome time watching all of your grow and mature here!

 

?? Ah D: kinda sudden :c feels.. im sad to see the father of backpack.tf leave..

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TheMCBros99

I'm amazed at how much work people dedicate to this stuff. I thought it was hard doing some minis and suggestions but seriously you guys are amazing

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Second Overall Team - Busy People - 149 points

Please send me a PM here or in discord with how you would like to divide your $100 marketplace credit. Cares is updating your site user profiles with 2 months of premium credit plus donation credit for points accumulated. 

 

Not bad for being busy B)

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Thanks again for an amazing event. This will be last major thing I do for the website before I'm stepping down at the end of the month. It's been an awesome time watching all of you grow and mature here!

What no! This can't be happening!

Good luck polar, we'll miss you a ton when you're gone.

 

Also, good work to everyone who participated, everyone was so chill on this event!

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Wow kind of sad for you to leave. Do you have anyone in mind to replace you?

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polar

Wow kind of sad for you to leave. Do you have anyone in mind to replace you?

 

People always come and go. Senior people train junior people. Site went on before I joined and will go on after I leave. 

 

Suggestions peak October-January. So that's plenty of time for new mods to get trained and comfortable before busy season starts again. 

 

I have offered to stay on as a consultant if they want that. Won't be around in the forums, but I could help out with second opinions and giving opinions on hiring new mods and possibly help with pricing events when we get huge volume. 

 

But thanks, I appreciate the sentiment :)

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puddingkip

Good bye polar, it seems like only 3 months ago that you applied. You were one of the nicest and most patient people I've ever met, hope you have fun in your future adventures

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SpotlightR

Good bye polar, it seems like only 3 months ago that you applied. You were one of the nicest and most patient people I've ever met, hope you have fun in your future adventures

He's not gone yet! Enjoy your last month with him by your side instead of saying an early goodbye.

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Erik

Amazing event, looking forward to the next event.

 

Very sad to see polar stepping down. I wish you the best of luck in the future :)

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