Grimes Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 How is this blatant price manipulation allowed? It is already known that he had alts that would raise the prices while he hoarded the items on his main. It doesn't matter how good the proof is, this is clearly price manipulation. Suggestion: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52ab1bf34dd7b833228b456d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenging Flame Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Because he owns 132 of them, he knows the market better than most. Just because you own a lot of things, doesnt mean that its price manipulation. Look at Hatch. He owns more keys than you would ever believe and its because of that that he knows the key market and can make a good key suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimes Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 When did this become ok? like I said, he has a history of price manipulation. He clearly has ulterior motives other than simply trying to raise a price. This system is just wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♠Derpeh♤ Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 He is probably the reason why it's rising, that guy was buying out all the cheap ones and now controls a big part of the market. It's not price manipulation if he has valid proof to back up his claims. Basically he is depleting the supply of that item whilst demand stays the same it's chasing fewer goods so naturally the price goes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 It doesn't matter how good the proof is, this is clearly price manipulation. Suggestion: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52ab1bf34dd7b833228b456d Question, are they selling for the suggested range....and not the current range? If so, then the suggestion is fine. Nowhere does it say you can't hoard an item to drive up its price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenging Flame Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 He has proof. Its not price manipulation if he can prove that that is the correct price currently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimes Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 I'm aware he has proof, but shouldn't the fact that he is using bp.tf for his own gain be against the rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenging Flame Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I'm aware he has proof, but shouldn't the fact that he is using bp.tf for his own gain be against the rules? He is updating the price to reflect the current market. Again, it is not manipulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offline Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I'm aware he has proof, but shouldn't the fact that he is using bp.tf for his own gain be against the rules? You must have never met me http://backpack.tf/vote.php?skip=105&all=1&steamid=76561198064658655 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC22 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Monopoly=/=manipulation. yay. Thread devolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimes Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 You guys wonder why people hate on bp.tf.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 You guys wonder why people hate on bp.tf.... So you're saying that bp.tf should list a price even though it ALWAYS sells for more. Well, that makes perfect sense. Backpack.tf reflects the current market price. If they're selling for the suggested range, then the suggested range is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♠Derpeh♤ Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 You guys wonder why people hate on bp.tf.... Dont think many people here "wonder" and most of the hate is mainly due to misunderstanding bp.tf Fact is if you can sell for a higher range and there is valid proof to back it up there is no reason it shouldnt be accepted. If someone else made that suggestion no one would care but if someone who owned it ups the price it suddenly becomes manipulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimes Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 I'm just saying you guys arn't helping the stereotype that is put on bp.tf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I'm just saying you guys arn't helping the stereotype that is put on bp.tf You're not helping the stereotype of the people who hate on bp.tf either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimes Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 I'm not? What have a done wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I'm not? What have a done wrong? Accusing backpack.tf of manipulating prices when in-fact its users who have forced prices up and backpack.tf is just adjusting the price since the current price isn't possible anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimes Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 Sooo, reasoned discussion isn't allowed anymore? mkkaayyyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Sooo, reasoned discussion isn't allowed anymore? mkkaayyyy Firstly, its not reasoned as there is proof supporting the suggestion. Secondly, you're the one who brought up the fact that this "manipulation" is whats giving backpack.tf a bad name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimes Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 By reasoned discussion I mean I came here thinking it was manipulation. I came to the forum's to see what you guy's thought. Obviously, you think differently. Suddenly "Im not helping the stereotype of the people who hate on bp.tf either." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarZX Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 · Hidden by Mr. Bucket, December 15, 2013 - No reason given Hidden by Mr. Bucket, December 15, 2013 - No reason given this guy is an idiot Link to comment
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I'm just saying you guys arn't helping the stereotype that is put on bp.tf You're not helping the stereotype of the people who hate on bp.tf either. By reasoned discussion I mean I came here thinking it was manipulation. I came to the forum's to see what you guy's thought. Obviously, you think differently. Suddenly "Im not helping the stereotype of the people who hate on bp.tf either." Because i totally wasn't responding to your comment or anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimes Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 "this guy is an idiot" Sorry if I don't live up to your high standards. Doesn't mean you can be rude about it. Also, instead of just contributing nothing, and just saying I'm an idiot, you could at least tell me why so I don't make the same mistake again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenging Flame Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 You came on here screaming price manipulation, we showed you it wasn't. Rather than accepting that, you kept screaming price manipulation and said that everyone hates bp.tf. Then you get mad when people talk back to you. This is why you were called an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimes Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 You came on here screaming price manipulation, we showed you it wasn't. Rather than accepting that, you kept screaming price manipulation and said that everyone hates bp.tf. Then you get mad when people talk back to you. This is why you were called an idiot Screaming? Getting mad? I'm not sure where this is coming from. Thanks for the hate guys.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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