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The power of the European Commission is far from small :

 

C.Accountability

 

1.Personal accountability (Article 245 TFEU)
 
Members of the Commission are required:
  • to be completely independent in the performance of their duties, in the general interest of the Union; in particular, they may neither seek nor take instructions from any government or other external body;
  • not to engage in any other occupation, whether gainful or not.
 
The Commission works under the political guidance of its President, who decides on its internal organisation. The President allocates the sectors of its activity among the members. This gives each Commissioner responsibility for a specific policy sector and authority over the administrative departments concerned.

 
A.Power of initiative
 
As a rule the Commission has a monopoly on the initiative in EU law-making (Article 17(2) TEU). It draws up proposed acts to be adopted by the two decision-making institutions, Parliament and the Council.
 
a.Legislative initiative
 
The power of proposal is the complete form of the power of initiative, as it is always exclusive and constrains the decision-making authority to the extent that it cannot take a decision unless there is a proposal and it has to base its decision on the proposal as presented.
The Commission draws up and submits to the Council and Parliament any legislative proposals (for regulations or directives) needed to implement the treaties (1.4.1).
 
b.Budgetary initiative
 
The Commission draws up the draft budget, which it proposes to the Council and Parliament under Article 314 TFEU (1.4.3).
 
c.Relations with non-member countries
 
Where a mandate has been given by the Council, the Commission is responsible for negotiating international agreements under Articles 207 and 218 TFEU, which are then submitted to the Council with a view to their conclusion. This includes negotiations for accession to the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms (Article 6(2) TEU). As regards foreign and security policy it is the High Representative who negotiates agreements.
 
a.In the context of Economic and Monetary union (4.1.2)
 
The Commission has a role in managing European Monetary Union (EMU). It submits to the Council:
  • recommendations for the draft broad guidelines for the Member States’ economic policies and warnings if those policies are likely to be incompatible with the guidelines (Article 121(4) TFEU);
  • assessment proposals to enable the Council to determine whether a Member State has an excessive deficit (Article 126(6) TFEU);
  • recommendations on measures to be taken if a non-euro area Member State is in difficulties as regards its balance of payments, as provided for in Article 143 TFEU;
  • recommendations for the exchange rate between the single currency and other currencies and for general orientations for exchange-rate policy, as provided for in Article 219 TFEU;
  • assessment of national policy plans and presentation of country-specific draft recommendations falling under the European Semester.
 
B.Power to monitor the implementation of Union law
 
The Commission is required under the Treaties to ensure that the Treaties themselves, and any decisions taken to implement them (secondary legislation), are properly enforced. Therein lies its role as guardian of the Treaties. This role is exercised mainly through the procedure applied to Member States where they have failed to fulfil an obligation under the Treaties, as set out in Article 258 TFEU.
 
C.Implementing powers
 
1.Conferred by the Treaties
 
The main powers vested in the Commission are as follows:
implementing the budget (Article 317 TFEU);
authorising the Member States to take safeguard measures laid down in the Treaties, particularly during transitional periods (e.g. Article 201 TFEU);
and enforcing competition rules, not least by keeping State aid under review, in accordance with Article 108 TFEU.
 
In the financial rescue packages dealing with the debt crises of some Member States, the Commission is responsible for the management of the funds raised through and guaranteed by the EU budget.

 

 
The European Central Bank is the other most powerful institution of the European Union.
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Chamberlain did the right and smart thing.

 

 

Right, appeasing a dictator whilst he and his allies began their global conquest was the right thing to do. Just like the EU ignoring the genocide in Yugoslavia where NATO had to step in.

 

Cameron also tried to appease a man who clearly doesn't believe in democracy and got "peace in our time". Appeasing the EU is the wrong thing to do, as it is inherently undemocratic. It will act like a party whip in regards to the remaining EU countries now that we've left. If Macmillian hadn't flip-flopped and De Gaulle had let us in things would be vastly different.

 

I would go as far to say that the EU is responsible for the rise of organisations such as the National Front, due to its very nature. In India (a democracy), there are significantly less cases of terrorism despite a large Muslim population, whereas in the Middle Eastern autocracies this is not the case. In Russia, the populace revolted against the oppressive Tsar and installed a militant Marxist government, because the people were so desperate to escape oppression. In Greece, the EU's treatment of its country for its own gain resulted in the rise of Syriza. In Austria, a far-right eurosceptic party has emerged. In Portugal, a far-left eurosceptic party was denied parliamentary perogative to form a majority government. America had a revolution over "taxation without representation", and we had the Chartist movement, who called for another Reform Act. Also - Germany after WW1 was treated extremely poorly. The masses turned to the Communist KPD or the National Socialist Nazi party, because they thought that either party would save them from oppression.

 

Unemployment is a serious issue across Europe that the EU has yet to address.

 

When the people feel as if they are oppressed, they will turn to extremism. The EU clearly doesn't have the best interests of the people at heart - the CAP is destroying African farming, the CFP is destroying our fishing industry. They continue to attempt to impose their vision of a federalist Europe upon the citizens of the EU and will stop at nothing to do so. Such a view is borderline imperialist. Their Eurocorps is the foundation for an EU army - an aggressive force, not a defensive one. NATO is a largely defensive alliance, not a federalists wet dream.

 

In our independent bastion of freedom and democracy, the racist BNP are a minority and I'd wager they lose votes at the next election. The rise of nationalism and extreme left-wing opposition is largely due to discontent with the EU. Our leave campaign was a cross-party one, supported by the right and left, just as it was in 1975.

 

The European project is doomed to fail, it is the USSR in western clothing. European co-operation without the EU is possible. Today we reversed Ted Heath's big lie (suppressing the Werner report for his own gain). We were never offered a referendum on Maastricht (reminder that John Major is responsible for this), nor did Gordon Brown deliver on his promise of a Lisbon treaty referendum. This is our finest hour. We, Algeria and Greenland have made history.

 

Oh, and that war criminal Blair has no chance at becoming EU president now. Middle East peace envoy my ass, I hope he's happy about all the Afghani and Iraqi interpreters we've failed to take in as refugees. Perhaps we should also demand that £9m Cameron spent on propaganda back (and all the gold Brown sold off). Advice should be impartial.

 

There is a reason why not every decision is decided by democratic methods. The average person is unable to comprehend the consequences of certain actions. 

 

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=ftse%20100

https://twitter.com/afneil/status/746364603827888128

https://twitter.com/afneil/status/746270073418039296

 

The FTSE 100 is already stabilising. A collapse due to banks predicting remain + panic buying in half a day of trading = the end of the world. We will be able to make free trade deals - there are already influential groups (such as the German CBI) lobbying for them.The PM of New Zealand also wants a treaty - http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/top/307217

 

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/746374341286371328- "German finance ministry strategy paper has recommended making the UK an "associated partner country" of the EU following leave vote"

 

Now we have the power to negotiate with the rest of the world, whereas in the EU, deals could be held up for years. We're not leaving Europe, we're leaving the EU and its protectionism - we don't need to be in a political union to trade with others. Plus, the EU discriminates against non-EU migrants. We're also a net contributor to the EU - we pay in more than we get out.

 

These "experts" also said we should join the euro - and look how wrong they were. 

 

 

Some argued that entering the EEC in 1973 was responsible for an economic collapse + loss of jobs.

 

Funny thing about your democracy argument. Labour are currently complaining that they didn't get their pro-EU message out. They most certainly did, and the electorate rejected it. I bet if the result went the other way, we'd have no calls for parliament to not activate Article 50, no calls for a referendum for an independent Wales (majority leave) and no salty remainers complaining about democracy when it doesn't go their way. The same sort of people voted for Ed Miliband and then "threatened to leave the country". They cannot comprehend the fact that they have lost. Salt mining has been positively affected by Brexit - people can't seem to realise that a. older people lived through the development of the EU, they also understand it b. education provision was worse back then, a lack of money does not mean a lack of intelligence c. a sizeable amount of younger + middle aged people supported brexit and the turnout for younger people was low - if you don't vote don't complain. Every Brexiteer is a Hitler-loving racist doombringer who hates the younger generation to them, despite 51% of the country voting in favour - people of all backgrounds and parties. I wouldn't protest a remain majority in the referendum, heck my local MP was for remain and he's a wonderful guy.

 

 

 

http://qz.com/715946/juncker-performs-a-mic-drop-when-asked-if-the-end-of-the-eu-is-nigh/

 

rip juncker, the no longer smug salty lying manipulator

 

http://www.lbc.co.uk/remains-heseltine-uk-will-join-the-euro-132613

 

rip heseltine, who said we would join the euro

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in actuality I'm super disappointed in Britain and I hope the damage they cause is mostly contained to their own country, not the whole world.

 

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Why people make from this such a drama? EU sucks anyway and UK probably won't stay long like this. The End.

 

This gonna be fun.

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in actuality I'm super disappointed in Britain and I hope the damage they cause is mostly contained to their own country, not the whole world.

 

 

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Almost as if insulting the electorate doesn't win them over to your side, absolutely shocking, isn't it? I'll be laughing once the short-term negatives wear off and  we reap the long-term benefits. It was a cross-party campaign on both sides, just like in 1975.

 

But from what I've seen of the 75 referendum everybody was civil and not once did a politician directly attack another. The young generation (who are supposedly 90% corbynistas) weren't calling for a cull of the older largely working-class voters, because they didn't get what they wanted, (despite 18 - 25 yr olds having a very low turnout - bit hypocritical to complain if you didn't vote) Surprisingly the polling rate for 25- 40 yr olds was almost equal.

 

Oh, and leaving the EU isn't the same as leaving Europe, because the EU is not Europe. Now we have control over our own laws.

 

Why people make from this such a drama? EU sucks anyway and UK probably won't stay long like this. The End.

 

 

De Gaulle rejecting us twice in the sixties probably won us this referendum. Changed the landscape of Europe forever.

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in actuality I'm super disappointed in Britain and I hope the damage they cause is mostly contained to their own country, not the whole world.

 

 

Sorry for going off topic, but what music is that from?

 

In the meantime, GBP keeps going down :P

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Why people make from this such a drama?

 

Tbh main thing people worry about is their pockets, UK ditching means all of the benefits of trading go along with it. Practically all countries trading with the UK are grounded with their relation to the EU, no one can really guess what can happen in the long run but in the short run them leaving basically fucked over everyone including themselves. Most people voted yes because they didnt like immigrants they didnt exactly think about the economical reasons.

 

We live in a global economy, them leaving will obviously effect everyone else which is why people make such a big deal over it because it is :l

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http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/06/time-respect-and-healing-both-sides

 

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/746374341286371328- German finance ministry strategy paper has recommended making the UK an "associated partner country" of the EU following leave vote

 

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/746372437676335105- German finance ministry says there are concerns France, Austria, Finland, the Netherlands & Hungary could follow UK's lead in leaving

 

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/746366465025007617- The FTSE 100 Index closed 2.7% down as it recovered from a 7% fall following the UK's vote to leave the European Union

 

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/746365358680969216- French government spokesman says UK's decision to leave the European Union will not affect its bilateral immigration treaty with UK

 

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/746335712031707136- Update - President #Obama says U.S. respects British people's decision and special relationship between U.S. and UK is enduring

 

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/746296006002753536- The Pope says the UK voting to leave EU is "will of the people" and calls for "guarantees" for "good of both Britain and continent

 

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/746236581682372609- Polish Foreign Minister says he sees no immediate impact for Polish people living in Britain #EUref

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/4pmovk/ftse_100_back_up_to_the_same_levels_as_2_weeks_ago/

 

"At present, the FTSE is sitting at 6184 - way up on its lowest point today - 5747 shortly after opening bells sounded. It has now gained over 400 points (as of 14:52PM - sitting at 6182) since the market opened. Any other day, and that would be an insanely good trading period. If it wasn't for the initial, seemingly artificial, slump caused by the city hedging its bets on Remain yesterday, the market is now more or less at the same point it was at the start of June 21st. The "biggest crash ever" is nothing of the sort - in 6 hours, the market has recovered to, more or less, yesterday's opening level. Now can we finally put to bed the Project Fear bullshit about financial meltdown? It's fine, it's all fine, everything will be fine.

EDIT 1 - 14:56: FTSE breaks 6200 for first time today. Now at 6209 - ABOVE closing value on June 21st. Storm weathered, Waves Ruled, Jerusalem Built, Farage Unbarraged, etc. etc."

 

https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/746638967194402816- Analyst's note from @jpmorgan "Economists may have got carried away with negative forecasts" #EurogeddonCancelled

 

https://twitter.com/foxblade98/status/746330276222078976- Turnout amongst 18-25s was 25%. Just 25%. If you're young and wanted to remain you had the power, don't try blaming old people.

 

https://twitter.com/BBCPropaganda/status/746454730025631744- Only 40% of elible Scottish voters voted for REMAIN. Many of those were over #ProjectFear not love of the EU.

 

https://twitter.com/RichardWellings/status/746462379651792896- Those 'EU-funded' plaques should now be removed from projects in depressed areas. Actually taxpayers footed the bill.

 

https://twitter.com/BradleyRAyres/status/746406501888098305- As a 22yr old I want to thank older generations for helping secure leave. To ensure my future votes will count at the ballot box. #notmyvote

 

https://twitter.com/ML20Productions/status/746437217720111104- I think the 16 and 17 year olds telling pensioners they'll be dead soon shows that not letting them vote was the right decision

 

https://twitter.com/afneil/status/746270073418039296- FTSE back over 6,000 and sterling bounce back to $1.39

 

https://twitter.com/standardnews/status/746368564056072192- Morgan Stanley denies moving 2,000 jobs from London after Brexit vote

 

https://twitter.com/WTODGAZEVEDO/status/746272643276472320- The British people have spoken. The #WTO stands ready to work with the UK and the EU to assist them in any way we can

 

https://twitter.com/tamara_chabe/status/746336735358029824- Remain's victory in some London Boroughs was tight. Lots of black and Asian voters voted for Brexit.

 

https://twitter.com/SuzanneEvans1/status/746333025944866816- After Brexit: Ghana-Britain trade talks begin

 

https://twitter.com/LouiseMensch/status/746329140261978112- You know what guys just like to point out we remain a European country in Europe. The EU is not and never has been Europe.

 

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/746290052599144448- Young can look forward to "more secure" & "prosperous future", @BorisJohnson says

 

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/746303874147975168- Why Brexit is no Lehman: the CBOE Volatility Index remains far below the level of panics past

 

https://twitter.com/jkenney/status/746188445433790465- Canada should immediately demonstrate respect for the choice made by the British people, & prioritize negotiation of Canada-UK free trade.

 

https://twitter.com/LOS_Fisher/status/746284472270786560b- Gisela Stuart kicking off Vote Leave press conference: UK will remain "outward looking country" and a "good neighbour" to EU #EUref

 

https://twitter.com/MikeHookemMEP/status/746291078593122304- Well done Britain - you've voted to stop your money being poured into a trillion euro budget which was going to be voted on next week.

 

https://twitter.com/john_cope/status/746255607397814272- Work must now start on a liberal Brexit. One shaped by trade, democracy & internationalism. New @Conservatives Leader must show those values

 

https://twitter.com/robyounguk/status/746231703098662912- UK businesses "are used to dealing with challenge and change and we should be confident they will adapt" says @CBItweets. #EUref #Brexit

 

https://twitter.com/DanHannanMEP/status/746632399388303360- Chaps, look at what I said throughout the campaign: it's all on Twitter, YouTube etc. I was for more control, not for minimal immigration.

 

https://twitter.com/DanHannanMEP/status/746427111116836864- A lot of Remainers are now raging at me because I *don't* want to cut immigration sharply. There really is no pleasing some people.

 

https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/746288975158083584- I was in Berlin that night in November 1989 when the wall fell. I plan to be in Brussels when the UK leaves.

 

https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/746277454218694656-Problem with Blairites arguing for a putsch against @jeremycorbyn over #EUref is they were the ones out of touch with Labour voters. Doh!

 

https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/746235240247549953- Play a violin for the hedge funds who commissioned polls and traded massively on their duff results.

 

https://twitter.com/SadiqKhan/status/746329838307282945-To every European resident living in London - you are very welcome here

 

https://twitter.com/Zohrath/status/746251230104686592- Thanks from Sweden for forging the way towards freedom for us all!

 

https://twitter.com/timloughton/status/746210968040943621-This is above all a victory for the democratic process & the EU needs to understand and respect that as we negotiate our future relationship

 

https://twitter.com/afneil/status/746270073418039296- FTSE back over 6,000 and sterling bounce back to $1.39

 

https://twitter.com/afneil/status/746608988809203712- FTSE fell but finished on weekly high. £ plummeted but closed @ Feb levels. U.K. Gilt yields fell. What G Soros meant by Black Friday?

 

https://twitter.com/Hjortur_J/status/746703857703616512?lang=en-gb- trade deal with Iceland

 

http://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/politics_and_society/2016/06/25/brexit_is_good_news_says_president_of_iceland/

 

http://www.afr.com/news/world/europe/brexit-eu-free-trade-deal-with-australia-will-be-ok-says-downer-20160625-gprz9q

 

http://i.imgur.com/4cZJdlX.jpg- EU army

 

https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/681210/Brussels-fatcats-not-laughing-anymore-special-report-Marco-Giannangeli- Nordic trading bloc

 

I'm sure at least half of the voters didn't even know what the EU does.

On the remain side, yes. A lot of young people voted remain, the majority of people on the internet are young, hence they are the ones searching "what is the EU" etc

 

Countries are lining up from across the world to negotiate free trade agreements with us - including Africa. EU protectionism is done for.

 

We now have the control to let people in who will contribute to this country, no matter where they are from, whether it be from outside or within the EU. People should rely on their own state/country for welfare, however. Refugees themselves are not economic migrants and should obviously be accepted, and I doubt tourism will be affected.

 

Whereas Blairite Labour's open immigration policy (a ploy to get votes) led to exploitation of cheap migrant labour and violence towards both migrants and natives. The ability to increase or decrease the numbers depending on the situation should ease tensions. It's not a cultural problem, after all - infact immigration has historically diversified local cultures.

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Throwing in my 2 cents (without reading too much of this novel of a thread but enough to see market talk); the media tried to blow the market drop out of proportions. It was bad, but it wasnt the worst we've ever seen. The initial blast was unique to the stock market but the after shockwaves are really just traders sitting around waiting to see what happens. Luckily traders dont react to the media as violently as the average person reacts to the media.  

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Throwing in my 2 cents (without reading too much of this novel of a thread but enough to see market talk); the media tried to blow the market drop out of proportions. It was bad, but it wasnt the worst we've ever seen. The initial blast was unique to the stock market but the after shockwaves are really just traders sitting around waiting to see what happens. Luckily traders dont react to the media as violently as the average person reacts to the media.  

Yup, market seems to have somewhat stabilized . Dow/S&P/Nasdaq futures are pretty much at even, at the pound vs us dollar seems to have stabilized as well. Of course, now I probably jinxed it, but it at least seems to have recovered from the initial "oh fuck, they actually left" moment. 

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"People old enough to have voted in that referendum, which Remain won by a landslide, now poll consistently for Leave. After forty years of broken promises, most now wish they had listened to men like this speaker, and had the self-confidence to take charge of their own destiny and make a success of it."

 

It was the "uneducated" oldies wot won it. the young educated elite aren't superior to the masses after all

 

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The referendum wasn't even on joining, it was on "staying in". They then had no say in the Maastricht treaty:

 

"After the Maastricht Treaty had been signed, such was the complexity of the drafting and so great the exhaustion of the negotiators that many of the protagonists had little clear idea of its meaning. The British team was temporarily proud that the word 'federal' appeared nowhere in this most federalising of documents. The public throughout Europe was baffled, and the unemployment that ensued in the mid to late 1990s did nothing to endear voters to a Treaty that they mistrusted and suspected of being at least partly responsible (through its strict monetary prescriptions) for the recession."

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-boris-johnson-speech-in-full-eu-referendum-who-will-be-next-prime-minister-uk-a7100566.html

 

"In the end, this question is about the people, it’s about the right of the people of this country to settle their own destiny, it’s about the very principles of our democracy. The rights of all of us to elect and remove the people who make the key decisions in their lives. And I think that the electorate have searched in their hearts and answered as honestly as they can." - Boris Johnson

 

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In 2013, Tony Benn reiterated his previous opposition to European integration. Speaking to the Oxford Union on the alleged overshadowing of the EU debate by "UKIP and Tory backbenchers", he said:

I took the view that having fought [Europeans in the Second World War] that we should now work with them, and co-operate, and that was my first thought about it. Then how I saw how the European Union was developing, it was very obvious that what they had in mind was not democratic. ... And the way that Europe has developed is that the bankers and the multinational corporations have got very powerful positions, and if you come in on their terms, they will tell you what you can and cannot do. And that is unacceptable. My view about the European Union has always been not that I am hostile to foreigners, but that I am in favour of democracy ... I think they're building an empire there, they want us to be a part of their empire and I don't want that

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Countries are lining up from across the world to negotiate free trade agreements with us - including Africa.

literally all I can contribute to this thread is calling out that Africa isn't a country  :P

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literally all I can contribute to this thread is calling out that Africa isn't a country  :P

Yes, Africa isn't a country - I was talking about countries from Africa. They get screwed over by the EU's Common Agriculutral Policy (doesn't account  for surplus, undercuts African farmers by selling surplus to African nations or destroys surplus). The fact that countries like Ghana want to open trade talks with us is great.

 

http://en.rfi.fr/africa/20160605-uk-africa-brexit-european-union-james-duddridge-united-kingdom

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What are your opinions on the matter?

 

(1) Northern Ireland is kind of being forced out of the E.U. because a majority of people in England voted 'no' . Northen Ireland doesn't has a good histroy when it's unstable. (IRA) My oppinion in this matter is that this does not bode well. At all.

 

(2) Scotland is kind of being forced out of the E.U. because a majority of people in England voted 'no'. Not a few years ago, they barely passed a referendum keeping them part of the U.K. Many scots obviously want a new referendum.

More turmoil ... this does not bode well.

 

(3) with the £ punging, anything that gets imported gets more expensive. And wanna bet that companies don't take that of their bottom line, but make the customer pay for that. Not to mention, compangnies that are unable to do so (because it woudl lose too many customers), go under.

I don't recall things getting more stable, when things get more expensive, and when the economy gets a hit.

 

 

 

What are your opinions on the matter? If the U.K. doesn't want to be in the E.U. , then they should leave.

But it seems some brittains think it's all sunshine and rainbows now they left the EU - but they'd better wake up and smell the coffee.

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(1) Northern Ireland is kind of being forced out of the E.U. because a majority of people in England voted 'no' . Northen Ireland doesn't has a good histroy when it's unstable. (IRA) My oppinion in this matter is that this does not bode well. At all.

 

(2) Scotland is kind of being forced out of the E.U. because a majority of people in England voted 'no'. Not a few years ago, they barely passed a referendum keeping them part of the U.K. Many scots obviously want a new referendum.

More turmoil ... this does not bode well.

 

(3) with the £ punging, anything that gets imported gets more expensive. And wanna bet that companies don't take that of their bottom line, but make the customer pay for that. Not to mention, compangnies that are unable to do so (because it woudl lose too many customers), go under.

I don't recall things getting more stable, when things get more expensive, and when the economy gets a hit.

 

 

 

What are your opinions on the matter? If the U.K. doesn't want to be in the E.U. , then they should leave.

But it seems some brittains think it's all sunshine and rainbows now they left the EU - but they'd better wake up and smell the coffee.

 

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44% voted out in NI. The Common Travel Area (passed in the twenties) ensures that the only border controls will be passport checks.

 

38% voted out in Scotland. Some voted remain to stop indyref2.

 

~35% of SNP voters voted out. The SNP seem to think that Scotland was a 100% remain majority - if anything it was closer than I expected.

 

Spain will veto Scottish membership of the EU. They have their own secessionists to deal with.

 

As for the economy, it's largely due to panic and speculation at the moment. The long term benefits will be worth it, we're already seeing that Project Fear was a bunch of crap. Countries are already lining up for free trade deals, after all - "What kind of internationalism puts a German over an Indian or a Frenchman over an Australian?" - Barbara Castle

 

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/eu-referendum/sore-losers-in-remain-were-blind-to-uks-ingrained-euroscepticism-34831290.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/11963908/Actually-Mr-Cameron-we-Norwegians-are-happy-rich-and-free-outside-the-EU.html

 

We've had a long history of euroscepticsm (oposition to the EEC dates back to the early 60's) - the cross-party Out campaign in 75, Labour promising to take us out if they won in 83, Thatcher's later opposition to European integration + the ERM, the Maastricht Rebels, UKIP, Ian Duncan Smith's conservatives. No major party leader backed Brexit, but this is what they really thought:

 

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http://uk.businessinsider.com/jeremy-corbyn-is-making-a-big-speech-saying-we-should-remain-in-the-eu-heres-all-the-times-he-said-the-eu-was-bad-2016-4

 

Are you really shocked? Even Gorbachev said it was the USSR in western clothes, and he's not entirely wrong.

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http://www.nottinghampost.com/soubry-says-white-working-class-leave-voters-have-probably-never-even-seen-a-migrant/story-29439358-detail/story.html

 

'white working class' Leave voters have 'probably never even seen a migrant'
 
> quite a few areas with large ethnic minorities that could swing the vote voted leave, even london had a decent leave percentage in a lot of boroughs despite the overall result

 

http://time.com/4381775/vladimir-putin-russia-brexit-uk/

 

Vladimir Putin: Brexit Is Result of ‘Arrogance’ From British Leadership

 

Putin, the massive hypocrite that he is, is actually right for once.

 

 

This whole topic seems void now since we're probably gonna have a second Referendum. Bloody Nigel and his tricks.

 

ahahahahahahaha no, no, no

 

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http://heatst.com/uk/exclusive-brexit-2nd-referendum-petition-a-4-chan-prank-bbc-report-it-as-real/

 

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/eu-referendum-claims-petition-for-second-referendum-is-rigged-as-it-storms-past-two-million-a3280971.html

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservative-party-tories-join-membership-member-stop-boris-johnson-michael-gove-remain-leave-brexit-a7102191.html

 

LMAO

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(3) with the £ punging, anything that gets imported gets more expensive. And wanna bet that companies don't take that of their bottom line, but make the customer pay for that. Not to mention, compangnies that are unable to do so (because it woudl lose too many customers), go under.

I don't recall things getting more stable, when things get more expensive, and when the economy gets a hit.

You just briefly explained what inflation was. Dont just think of the companies and their customers here either, the companies have to import their materials to produce the goods too. More expensive materials to produce (now) more expensive product. More companies are more likely to go under because they cant afford the materials, not because they lose customers during an inflation period. 

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This whole topic seems void now since we're probably gonna have a second Referendum. Bloody Nigel and his tricks.

Although I was disappointed by the decision to leave no petition is going to override democracy. More people voted to leave, so we leave. 

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