Hyperqube Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 its not the simple fact of oil trade, but they shot down a plane that was on its way to strike isis targets if they were allied in the war against isis they would not have done this And where's your proof? Because you seem to forget that Russia - Assad's ally - bombs the rebels who fight against ISIS ... and since Assad buys his electricity from ISIS So, ... wait ... wasn't that what you had against Turkey? attacking the enemy of their enemy, and buying resources? Where's your proof that that means Turkey is ISIS's ally? because it sure as heck is a fact the Assad/russia coallition isn't an ally of ISIS. No, please, you were the one complaining about lack of evidence ... so, how about you actually present us with your evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 why are you now pointing to assad im talking about turkey, i said nothing of assads allegiances i showed you russias proof of turkey buying oil from isis, you ignored it turkey does not fight isis, operations in the region by turkey are always focused on kurds and other ethnic groups they wish to genocide you posted the proof of this, if you actually read the things you posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperqube Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 why are you now pointing to assadbecause he's also buying stuff from ISIS, and killing enemies of ISIS. But definately not an ally of ISIS. turkey does not fight isis, operations in the region by turkey are always focused on kurds and other ethnic groups they wish to genocidepost #49, §2 adress this. You're the one ignoring it. i showed you russias proof of turkey buying oil from isis, you ignored itpost #49, §1 & §3 adress this. You're the one ignoring it. (§3) you posited that that countries lie. BY YOUR OWN LOGIC, your evidence is isn't worth anything. (§1) and even if true - it's not evidence that they are an ally - or even on good terms with - ISIS. It's just a PR nightmare for Turkey, nothing else. So, again - where is your evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♠Derpeh♤ Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 its not the simple fact of oil trade, but they shot down a plane that was on its way to strike isis targets if they were allied in the war against isis they would not have done this For one we dont know exactly what happened apparently the plane was warned multiple times that it was violating the airspace and will be shot down if it didnt turn back and it didnt. Russia claims they didnt, turkey says they were warned a few times before which I do find the latter more believable as you dont simply just shoot at any aircraft which crosses without warning unless you want trouble. EDIT: There is now a released recording showing the multiple warnings about them breaching turkey airspace before shooting them down so... Looks like Russia is in the wrong... Also the point about them buying oil means they are supporting Isis, atm Isis controls an significant amount of oil and cheap oil at that, cheap oil which is required for basically every piece of machinery and it's simply business with the unintentional effect of "supporting" isis. Eg Syria buys a lot of oil from isis and they are who isis is fighting against as well but the thing is isis needs money and syria needs oil and to acquire what they need it has the unintended effect of "helping" each other, it doesnt necessarily they "support" each other nor their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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