cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 this isnt the first time turkey has been accused of aiding isis putin is very upset with what he calls "terrorist supporters" will we ww3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSpeed Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Here's an article on the matter for the curious. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34907983 I personally won't make any judgement on what this could lead into but it's certainly scary to think of the consequences for such actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperqube Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 this isnt the first time turkey has been accused of aiding isis putin is very upset with what he calls "terrorist supporters" In a nutshell Turkey attacks not only ISIS but also the Kurdish rebels (who fight against ISIS, Assad, and Turkey) Putin is on Assads side and bombs not only ISIS but also various rebels (who fight against ISIS & Assad) And now Turkey shoots down a russian fighter jet, because it violated it's airspace ... You know what this looks like? People trying to establish dominance in the region, and using ISIS as an excuse to bring in the troops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 turkey does not fight isis, they fight the kurds, who they wish to exterminate turkey also does not stop millions upon millions of dollars worth of oil being smuggled and sold by isis in turkey and yes the instability and islamic state presence gives a good excuse for questionable military actions from all points i dont think turkey is going to get away with it forever but with them being a nato ally, something must happen if russia sees this development as an act of war russia says they can prove they did not violate turkish airspace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightOfPurgatory Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Inb4 ww3 nukes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabaers Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I heard they gave the plane 10 warnings and it still went through. Imagine a Russian jet flying over the USA, bitch gonna get shot down in an instant. Turkey was protecting itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynaggot Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Turkish guy here, our president Tayyip is a fucking dipshit. He's worse than trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 I heard they gave the plane 10 warnings and it still went through. Imagine a Russian jet flying over the USA, bitch gonna get shot down in an instant. Turkey was protecting itself. it was on the syrian border, it is well known that russia is bombing isis if the usa were on the border of isis territory i highly doubt we would shoot down a russian plane at the border this shows where certain loyalties to certain values lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperqube Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 turkey does not fight isis, Somebody should tell Turkey that. http://www.wsj.com/articles/turkey-to-join-coalitions-airstrikes-against-isis-1440535062 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 then they turn around and bomb the kurds and other ethnic minorities they want out of the region instead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperqube Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 then they turn around and bomb the kurds and other ethnic minorities they want out of the region instead...Indeed. in acordance with what I wrote in post #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 they do not fight isis, they fund isis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperqube Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 they do not fight isis, they fund isisSomebody should tell Turkey that. http://www.wsj.com/articles/turkey-to-join-coalitions-airstrikes-against-isis-1440535062 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Map Painter Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Let the Kurds take over the region, they're the only moderate force with any sort of sense, Turkey needs a different president as the current one is mad. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11216064/Meet-the-Kurdish-women-fighting-the-Islamic-State.html iirc ISIS fighters believe that being killed by one of these women will get you sent to hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 yeah, too bad kurdistan isnt a thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 Somebody should tell Turkey that. http://www.wsj.com/articles/turkey-to-join-coalitions-airstrikes-against-isis-1440535062 one day you will learn what people do and what they say are not always in sync you will accept blatant lies if you do not learn to question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Ritos Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 it was on the syrian border, it is well known that russia is bombing isis if the usa were on the border of isis territory i highly doubt we would shoot down a russian plane at the border this shows where certain loyalties to certain values lie Very true, I do think that if 10 warnings truly were given, and it actually was Turkish airspace than the jet should have left, but I do not think shooting it down was justified. note : Darn you, you beat me to making this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 nato just made a live comment about it, they basically said they stand in solidarity with turkey but they are not going to reveal details about the encounter at this time, the guy looked like he was physically pained and said "uh, uhm" about 50 times in his short statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperqube Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 one day you will learn what people do and what they say are not always in sync Oh, I'm quite aware that people not always to what they say they do ... however, I'm also aware that the possibility of a viable alternative senario disproves a claim as fact. But as long as it's possible the Wallstreet Journal, or the NY times, or Time magasine, or DefenseNews, or CNN, or ... is telling the truth - which proves that "they do not fight isis" is not a fact. one day you will learn what people do and what they say are not always in sync One day you will learn that as far as credibility goes, "various news organisations" usually trumps "random internet guy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 "Wallstreet Journal, or the NY times, or Time magasine, or DefenseNews, or CNN," atomic facepalm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Teeny Tiny Cat Posted November 25, 2015 Administrators Share Posted November 25, 2015 you will accept blatant lies if you do not learn to question you don't know what we do or do not question in news sources or how far we research topics independently. you not being a mind reader is coming up awfully frequently, you notice that? so many of your assertions are about knowing what people think despite what they say. all you know here, really, is that we question you, which should tell you that we don't accept blatant lies if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Noob Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 one day you will learn what people do and what they say are not always in sync you will accept blatant lies if you do not learn to question I agree with both, as I'm sure most of us do. However, if you have evidence to provide regarding Turkey not fighting ISIS as you claim, please present it. Otherwise you're just talking without backing anything you say up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Python. Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Haha it's funny because Thanksgiving is in a couple days and we eat turkeys :DDDD But the Turkey that is roasted this year is a country :DDDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/02/europe/syria-turkey-russia-warplane-tensions/ https://www.rt.com/news/324263-russia-briefing-isis-funding/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperqube Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/02/europe/syria-turkey-russia-warplane-tensions/ https://www.rt.com/news/324263-russia-briefing-isis-funding/ .... and ? Did you know that Assad - who DEFINATELY IS fighting ISIS - buys electricity from ISIS? OR, while tensions were rising very high in the ukraine situation, europe was still importing russian gas? We live in a world were waging war is not mutually exclusive with trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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