Unusual suggestions coincedence?

[MC22]

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51416b5cba2536a65200000b 79 up
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/514133ce4bd7b8ab22000002 98 down
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5141310bba25364323000041 73 up
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51410dd94bd7b8d467000011 98 down
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/513ff6fb4bd7b8583a000001 92 down
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/513ce9c84bd7b87a28000008 91 down
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5139720bba2536046c000001 96 down
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51353f84ba25366c3f000018 98 down
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5132d84a4bd7b86d35000005 91 down
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/512fe5f7ba2536a308000009 100 down
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/512efb97ba2536905e000015 80 up
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/512e9d604bd7b8c12d000005 91 down
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/512ae89f4bd7b8b355000017 95 down
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/512c5a6f4bd7b8a80e000001 75 up

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5121bef0ba25365270000001 95 down

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51201fbeba25361230000001 92 down

this is most of my accepted non reconfirmation unusual pricings within the past 3 weeks or so.

up=I am raising price

down=I am lowering price

the # before the up or down is percentage of upvotes.

UP: 79, 73, 80, 75

DOWN: 98, 98, 92, 91, 96, 98, 100, 91, 95, 95, 92

 

Conclusions from my data: (only my suggestions)

1. I am better at lowering unusual prices than raising them

2. People dislike unusuals going up and prefer unusuals going down

3. this is not enough data.

 

Thoughts?

[Jester]

it's not just you. the community loves to vote "down" adjustments. getting things up is much harder.

 

i think it must be like a have/have not thing.

[The Killjoy]

Most people are more comfortable with items going down than up.

[MC22]

Now some data from Awesome McCoolName.

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/511a5a0eba25366317000004 96 down

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/511ad54eba2536536d000001 95 down

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/511b04d4ba25364812000002 89 up

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/511cf08dba2536b507000001 80 up

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/511f11a8ba25366e78000005 75 up

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/511f1643ba25365913000001 90 down

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/511fc039ba2536de2e000004 83 up

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/511fd47aba25365c7c000003 77 up

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51205d42ba2536e201000012 80 up

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51212256ba2536b264000017 93 down

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51226e39ba25363902000013 89 down

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5122734fba25364d0200001c 79 up

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/512a51914bd7b83932000001 94 down

UP: 89, 80, 75, 83, 77, 80, 79

DOWN:96, 95, 90, 93, 89, 94

[Rhys13th]

Ooh! Ooh! Do me!

[MC22]

huh?

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51303ad2ba2536a72e000013 61 up

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51354fe3ba25365206000012 91 down

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/513596324bd7b83910000004 60 up

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/513836664bd7b8d65a00000b 81 down

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5138bb2b4bd7b89d75000007 66 up

UP: 61, 60, 66

DOWN: 91, 81

[MC22]

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/514256ffba25369851000005 81 up

16 key offers all around, 11 downvotes. It's like I'm pricing a UC there. What is with this community?

[Puddilicious]

It's not just you. I have been moderating unusual hat prices for nearly a year and the community almost always votes up the lowering of a price, while having a tendency to vote down the raising of a price. I won't pretend to know why they do that, but I imagine it has something to do with the fact that most community members don't have much wealth so the raising of a price may be displeasing psychologically on some level.

 

I have noticed that the bias in votes is much less today than it was months ago, but it's still there to a noticeable degree. It was really bad 9 months ago. Raising the price of an unusual hat was like pulling teeth back then. Perhaps the community has gotten wealthier on average since then?

[Distinctively Vincent]

Yep, I've noticed that too. It gets especially bad when you try raising the price on what's viewed as a bad hat. Try raising the price on an unusual coupe and you're lucky if you break 70%, no matter the proof offered.

 

It's why I've gotten a lot pickier about accepting price drops around unusuals, regardless of votes. A very easy way to get positive votes when suggesting an unusual price drop is just to list a bunch of rejected offers and set a range around them. Or to set the top range to the buyout of a freshly made trade while pointing out that it 'hasn't sold'. Then I get to feel like a jerk for closing an 80%+ upvoted suggestion. Though the commenting community has similarly gotten better at pointing out when this kind of thing is happening- doesn't change the end votes, but stil.

[MC22]

And people wonder why bp.tf is considered "prices too low" for almost all trades out there.

[AwesomeMcCoolName]

Well, it makes perfect sense why it happens...

 

People expect items to go down in value as time goes on....So, it would make perfect sense for unusuals to drop in value (rather than increase).

[MC22]

So, the comments are better now, but the votes aren't? Why would unusuals drop in value?

[AwesomeMcCoolName]

So, the comments are better now, but the votes aren't? Why would unusuals drop in value?

As more unusuals enter the market its only natural for the price to drop...Also, the new effects have been dropping in value for quite some time now.

[MC22]

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5143a7caba2536d45c000001

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5143ab44ba25361d5d000009

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5143b413ba2536ab0c00000c

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5143b9614bd7b8b94700000d

so much downvotes on good suggestions my eyes hurt

[MC22]

... Try raising the price on an unusual coupe and you're lucky if you break 70%, no matter the proof offered.

 http://backpack.tf/vote/id/514400404bd7b82046000009

23 downvotes. I do not consider myself lucky at all.

[Rhys13th]

Happened to my L'Inspecteur Suggestion recently. Barely broke 60% on a not bad suggestion.

[ERASER BY]

I also agree community almost always votes up the lowering of a price, while having a tendency to vote down the raising of a price.I was getting up to 40% of negative votes in price suggestions with 100% proof base.

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5139aafbba25369a1f00000e     http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5111524eba2536d420000006

[Rhys13th]

It's not just you. I have been moderating unusual hat prices for nearly a year and the community almost always votes up the lowering of a price, while having a tendency to vote down the raising of a price. I won't pretend to know why they do that, but I imagine it has something to do with the fact that most community members don't have much wealth so the raising of a price may be displeasing psychologically on some level.

 

I have noticed that the bias in votes is much less today than it was months ago, but it's still there to a noticeable degree. It was really bad 9 months ago. Raising the price of an unusual hat was like pulling teeth back then. Perhaps the community has gotten wealthier on average since then?

 

However, the multiplier backpack.tf applies to their BP means that they can't vote on something they can't afford. Why would then the non-rich members find it displeasing?

[Puddilicious]

However, the multiplier backpack.tf applies to their BP means that they can't vote on something they can't afford. Why would then the non-rich members find it displeasing?

Well, if they can barely afford the hat, then raising the price to something above the worth of their entire backpack might be displeasing. Someone with a backpack worth 2.5 buds total will probably not like seeing a Plasma Trilby be raised from 2.5 buds to 3 buds.