MC22 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51416b5cba2536a65200000b 79 uphttp://backpack.tf/vote/id/514133ce4bd7b8ab22000002 98 downhttp://backpack.tf/vote/id/5141310bba25364323000041 73 uphttp://backpack.tf/vote/id/51410dd94bd7b8d467000011 98 downhttp://backpack.tf/vote/id/513ff6fb4bd7b8583a000001 92 downhttp://backpack.tf/vote/id/513ce9c84bd7b87a28000008 91 downhttp://backpack.tf/vote/id/5139720bba2536046c000001 96 downhttp://backpack.tf/vote/id/51353f84ba25366c3f000018 98 downhttp://backpack.tf/vote/id/5132d84a4bd7b86d35000005 91 downhttp://backpack.tf/vote/id/512fe5f7ba2536a308000009 100 downhttp://backpack.tf/vote/id/512efb97ba2536905e000015 80 uphttp://backpack.tf/vote/id/512e9d604bd7b8c12d000005 91 downhttp://backpack.tf/vote/id/512ae89f4bd7b8b355000017 95 downhttp://backpack.tf/vote/id/512c5a6f4bd7b8a80e000001 75 up http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5121bef0ba25365270000001 95 down http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51201fbeba25361230000001 92 down this is most of my accepted non reconfirmation unusual pricings within the past 3 weeks or so. up=I am raising price down=I am lowering price the # before the up or down is percentage of upvotes. UP: 79, 73, 80, 75 DOWN: 98, 98, 92, 91, 96, 98, 100, 91, 95, 95, 92 Conclusions from my data: (only my suggestions) 1. I am better at lowering unusual prices than raising them 2. People dislike unusuals going up and prefer unusuals going down 3. this is not enough data. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 it's not just you. the community loves to vote "down" adjustments. getting things up is much harder. i think it must be like a have/have not thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killjoy Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Most people are more comfortable with items going down than up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC22 Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 Now some data from Awesome McCoolName. http://backpack.tf/vote/id/511a5a0eba25366317000004 96 down http://backpack.tf/vote/id/511ad54eba2536536d000001 95 down http://backpack.tf/vote/id/511b04d4ba25364812000002 89 up http://backpack.tf/vote/id/511cf08dba2536b507000001 80 up http://backpack.tf/vote/id/511f11a8ba25366e78000005 75 up http://backpack.tf/vote/id/511f1643ba25365913000001 90 down http://backpack.tf/vote/id/511fc039ba2536de2e000004 83 up http://backpack.tf/vote/id/511fd47aba25365c7c000003 77 up http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51205d42ba2536e201000012 80 up http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51212256ba2536b264000017 93 down http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51226e39ba25363902000013 89 down http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5122734fba25364d0200001c 79 up http://backpack.tf/vote/id/512a51914bd7b83932000001 94 down UP: 89, 80, 75, 83, 77, 80, 79 DOWN:96, 95, 90, 93, 89, 94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys13th Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Ooh! Ooh! Do me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC22 Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 huh? http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51303ad2ba2536a72e000013 61 up http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51354fe3ba25365206000012 91 down http://backpack.tf/vote/id/513596324bd7b83910000004 60 up http://backpack.tf/vote/id/513836664bd7b8d65a00000b 81 down http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5138bb2b4bd7b89d75000007 66 up UP: 61, 60, 66 DOWN: 91, 81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC22 Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 http://backpack.tf/vote/id/514256ffba25369851000005 81 up 16 key offers all around, 11 downvotes. It's like I'm pricing a UC there. What is with this community? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddilicious Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 It's not just you. I have been moderating unusual hat prices for nearly a year and the community almost always votes up the lowering of a price, while having a tendency to vote down the raising of a price. I won't pretend to know why they do that, but I imagine it has something to do with the fact that most community members don't have much wealth so the raising of a price may be displeasing psychologically on some level. I have noticed that the bias in votes is much less today than it was months ago, but it's still there to a noticeable degree. It was really bad 9 months ago. Raising the price of an unusual hat was like pulling teeth back then. Perhaps the community has gotten wealthier on average since then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distinctively Vincent Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Yep, I've noticed that too. It gets especially bad when you try raising the price on what's viewed as a bad hat. Try raising the price on an unusual coupe and you're lucky if you break 70%, no matter the proof offered. It's why I've gotten a lot pickier about accepting price drops around unusuals, regardless of votes. A very easy way to get positive votes when suggesting an unusual price drop is just to list a bunch of rejected offers and set a range around them. Or to set the top range to the buyout of a freshly made trade while pointing out that it 'hasn't sold'. Then I get to feel like a jerk for closing an 80%+ upvoted suggestion. Though the commenting community has similarly gotten better at pointing out when this kind of thing is happening- doesn't change the end votes, but stil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC22 Posted March 16, 2013 Author Share Posted March 16, 2013 And people wonder why bp.tf is considered "prices too low" for almost all trades out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Well, it makes perfect sense why it happens... People expect items to go down in value as time goes on....So, it would make perfect sense for unusuals to drop in value (rather than increase). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC22 Posted March 16, 2013 Author Share Posted March 16, 2013 So, the comments are better now, but the votes aren't? Why would unusuals drop in value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 So, the comments are better now, but the votes aren't? Why would unusuals drop in value?As more unusuals enter the market its only natural for the price to drop...Also, the new effects have been dropping in value for quite some time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC22 Posted March 16, 2013 Author Share Posted March 16, 2013 http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5143a7caba2536d45c000001 http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5143ab44ba25361d5d000009 http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5143b413ba2536ab0c00000c http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5143b9614bd7b8b94700000d so much downvotes on good suggestions my eyes hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC22 Posted March 16, 2013 Author Share Posted March 16, 2013 ... Try raising the price on an unusual coupe and you're lucky if you break 70%, no matter the proof offered. http://backpack.tf/vote/id/514400404bd7b82046000009 23 downvotes. I do not consider myself lucky at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys13th Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Happened to my L'Inspecteur Suggestion recently. Barely broke 60% on a not bad suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERASER BY Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I also agree community almost always votes up the lowering of a price, while having a tendency to vote down the raising of a price.I was getting up to 40% of negative votes in price suggestions with 100% proof base. http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5139aafbba25369a1f00000e http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5111524eba2536d420000006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys13th Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 It's not just you. I have been moderating unusual hat prices for nearly a year and the community almost always votes up the lowering of a price, while having a tendency to vote down the raising of a price. I won't pretend to know why they do that, but I imagine it has something to do with the fact that most community members don't have much wealth so the raising of a price may be displeasing psychologically on some level. I have noticed that the bias in votes is much less today than it was months ago, but it's still there to a noticeable degree. It was really bad 9 months ago. Raising the price of an unusual hat was like pulling teeth back then. Perhaps the community has gotten wealthier on average since then? However, the multiplier backpack.tf applies to their BP means that they can't vote on something they can't afford. Why would then the non-rich members find it displeasing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddilicious Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 However, the multiplier backpack.tf applies to their BP means that they can't vote on something they can't afford. Why would then the non-rich members find it displeasing? Well, if they can barely afford the hat, then raising the price to something above the worth of their entire backpack might be displeasing. Someone with a backpack worth 2.5 buds total will probably not like seeing a Plasma Trilby be raised from 2.5 buds to 3 buds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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