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Need to make sure I got everything down thats necessary for a build. Also to make sure everything will be compatible. Also if anyone knows if I can get Windows 7 64-bit OS for free or really cheap I would appreciate to know. Also if the case I chose is enough room for these parts.

 

These are the current specifications I have gotten down for my pc build. Mostly want a nice build to get full 200+ fps on TF2 on max graphics, skyrim on ultra + mods and to run most steam games on stable fps.

 

$60 Power Supply: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-110b20750vr

 

$50 Cooling Unit: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h55

 

$132 Motherboard: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-z170-pro-gaming-intel-z170-s-1151-ddr4-satae-sata3-6gb-s-m2-pcie-30-sli-crossfire-usb31-atx-mot

 

2x $27 RAM: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml4gx3m1c1600c9r

 

$220 Processor: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690k

 

$190 GPU: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx960gaming2g

 

$50 SSD: http://disctech.com/Western-Digital-RE4-WD1003FBYX-SATA-Hard-Disk-Drive?partner=1011&utm_source=GoogleBase&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=product&gclid=CKC2obyS28gCFVUTHwodkHwDYw

 

$40 Case: http://m.ebuyer.com/343262

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Need to make sure I got everything down thats necessary for a build. Also to make sure everything will be compatible. Also if anyone knows if I can get Windows 7 64-bit OS for free or really cheap I would appreciate to know. Also if the case I chose is enough room for these parts.

 

These are the current specifications I have gotten down for my pc build. Mostly want a nice build to get full 200+ fps on TF2 on max graphics, skyrim on ultra + mods and to run most steam games on stable fps.

 

$60 Power Supply: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-110b20750vr

 

$50 Cooling Unit: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h55

 

$132 Motherboard: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-z170-pro-gaming-intel-z170-s-1151-ddr4-satae-sata3-6gb-s-m2-pcie-30-sli-crossfire-usb31-atx-mot

 

$54 RAM: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml4gx3m1c1600c9r

 

$220 Processor: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690k

 

$190 GPU: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx960gaming2g

 

$50 SSD: http://disctech.com/Western-Digital-RE4-WD1003FBYX-SATA-Hard-Disk-Drive?partner=1011&utm_source=GoogleBase&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=product&gclid=CKC2obyS28gCFVUTHwodkHwDYw

 

$40 Case: http://m.ebuyer.com/343262

 

Okay there's a couple issues with your build here.

 

1. NEVER buy refurbished/used hard disk drives. (Also hard drives are not Solid State Drives, hard drives have a spinning platter where as solid state drives have NAND Flash, a Controller, etc on a printed circuit board with the SATA or PCIe interface)

 

2. You will need more than 4GB of memory. 8GB is like the baseline if you're going to be gaming and stuff on your PC.

 

3. You have the wrong motherboard. That motherboard is the Z170 chipset and you have a haswell i5 processor which is compatible with the Z97 chipset.

 

Advice : With the Z170 chipset you can use newer DDR4 which I highly recommend. Also if you seriously plan on buying a i5 which is about $240, why not pay an extra $100 and go for the i7 k part processor. A i7 beats a i5 every time. It's only $100 more considering your already going to spend the ~$240 for the i5.

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Okay there's a couple issues with your build here.

 

1. NEVER buy refurbished/used hard disk drives. (Also hard drives are not Solid State Drives, hard drives have a spinning platter where as solid state drives have NAND Flash, a Controller, etc on a printed circuit board with the SATA or PCIe interface)

 

2. You will need more than 4GB of memory. 8GB is like the baseline if you're going to be gaming and stuff on your PC.

 

3. You have the wrong motherboard. That motherboard is the Z170 chipset and you have a haswell i5 processor which is compatible with the Z97 chipset.

Ok, i looked up an ASUS Z97 and found a bundle for the processor as well :ohttp://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i5-4690k-quad-core-35ghz-processor-with-unlocked-core-multiplier-plus-asus-z97-p-atx-moth

 

So that would be the appropriate motherboard yes?

 

Also then what hard drive would you recommend? My friend had a toshiba 500GB and his fucked up in just a year in. So im kind of skeptical about toshiba products.

 

Also i edited the RAM for 2 sticks of 4GB RAM

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Ok, i looked up an ASUS Z97 and found a bundle for the processor as well :ohttp://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i5-4690k-quad-core-35ghz-processor-with-unlocked-core-multiplier-plus-asus-z97-p-atx-moth

 

So that would be the appropriate motherboard?

 

Also then what hard drive would you recommend? My friend had a toshiba 500GB and his fucked up in just a year in. So im kind of skeptical about toshiba products.

 

Also i edited the RAM for 2 sticks of 4GB RAM

 

Yes that motherboard is compatible. That bundle looks discounted too.

 

I recommend this to be your C Drive or boot drive whatever you prefer to call it  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147360&ignorebbr=1

 

and I recommend this for Storage http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840&cm_re=1TB_hard_drive-_-22-148-840-_-Product

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Yes that motherboard is compatible. That bundle looks discounted too.

 

I recommend this to be your C Drive or boot drive whatever you prefer to call it http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147360&ignorebbr=1

 

and I recommend this for Storage http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840&cm_re=1TB_hard_drive-_-22-148-840-_-Product

Ok! Also for the samsung drive is it fine that its 256MB? Or should i get more space for that. Seems rather expensive for those, but if thats the usual price of these drives then I'd probably settle for it.

 

My case is also good then right? :)

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Ok! Also for the samsung drive is it fine that its 256MB? Or should i get more space for that. Seems rather expensive for those, but if thats the usual price of these drives then I'd probably settle for it.

 

My case is also good then right? :)

 

It's 256 Gigabytes but you will have 236-238 Gigabytes usable. Yes Samsung SSD's are expensive but they make some of the best in my opinion. The 850 Pro is FAST. It practically saturates the SATA III interface with its 550+ or - Mbps Read and Write speeds. If it's too much you can try Crucial but they're a little slower.

 

The case was ATX so it should be good but I honestly have not heard of that brand although I am in the US of A. Cheaper cases usually don't have the motherboard standoffs already in place. May have sharp edges. Use older designs that aren't tool less or less user friendly. So forth.

 

Edit : Samsung SSD's are also pretty reliable as well. Crucial too. OCZ makes unreliable SSD's. I had a OCZ Vector 150 fail me and I returned it to newegg for a refund and bought a Samsung 850 Pro.

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It's 256 Gigabytes but you will have 236-238 Gigabytes usable. Yes Samsung SSD's are expensive but they make some of the best in my opinion. The 850 Pro is FAST. It practically saturates the SATA III interface with its 550+ or - Mbps Read and Write speeds. If it's too much you can try Crucial but they're a little slower.

 

The case was ATX so it should be good but I honestly have not heard of that brand although I am in the US of A. Cheaper cases usually don't have the motherboard standoffs already in place. May have sharp edges. Use older designs that aren't tool less or less user friendly. So forth.

 

Edit : Samsung SSD's are also pretty reliable as well. Crucial too. OCZ makes unreliable SSD's. I had a OCZ Vector 150 fail me and I returned it to newegg for a refund and bought a Samsung 850 Pro.

Ok. I can settle on that samsung drive :)

 

Do you have a case in mind that might be good to recommend if the current case looks to be a problem?

 

Sorry for so many questions, but its my first time building a pc :P.

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Advice : With the Z170 chipset you can use newer DDR4 which I highly recommend. Also if you seriously plan on buying a i5 which is about $240, why not pay an extra $100 and go for the i7 k part processor. A i7 beats a i5 every time. It's only $100 more considering your already going to spend the ~$240 for the i5.

Skylake really isn't worth the added cost over Haswell, so unless the cost difference (in total factoring in CPU, motherboard, and RAM) is minimal, he should save money and go with Haswell. 

 

Now, whether or not a 4790k is worthwhile over a 4690k comes down to how much he wants to spend. Right now a 4690k offers nearly identical performance to a 4790k in all but a handful of games. DX12 aims to change that...but we'll see how that actually turns out. 

 

With all of that said, I haven't read most of the thread, so I may be repeating something that's already been said, BUT..... 

A 960 + 4690k (or 4790k) is the wrong approach. Go with a locked i5 (i5-4440/4460) and an R9 390. THEN you can upgrade to a better cpu. 

 

 

It's 256 Gigabytes but you will have 236-238 Gigabytes usable. Yes Samsung SSD's are expensive but they make some of the best in my opinion. The 850 Pro is FAST. It practically saturates the SATA III interface with its 550+ or - Mbps Read and Write speeds. If it's too much you can try Crucial but they're a little slower.

 

The case was ATX so it should be good but I honestly have not heard of that brand although I am in the US of A. Cheaper cases usually don't have the motherboard standoffs already in place. May have sharp edges. Use older designs that aren't tool less or less user friendly. So forth.

 

Edit : Samsung SSD's are also pretty reliable as well. Crucial too. OCZ makes unreliable SSD's. I had a OCZ Vector 150 fail me and I returned it to newegg for a refund and bought a Samsung 850 Pro.

Most modern SSDs are equally reliable and fast in terms of what an actual consumer would notice. So, there really isn't any reason to not just get the cheapest ssd (from a reputable brand -- Samsung, Adata, Crucial, Kingston (excluding the V300), Sandisk, Intel, OCZ, PNY, or Mushkin). OCZ used to have issues, but they've been solved post their 4 series. 

 

As for read/write speeds -- they're basically irrelevant unless you're transferring large amounts of data on a frequent basis, and even then most SSDs (of the same capacity) are within 50Mbps of each other (once you get above 240gb -- sub 240gb SSDs are less consistent). The important factor of an SSD is the latency -- which is pretty consistent across all SSDs. 

 

For a case, I'd check out Corsair, NZXT, Cooler Master, Fractal Design, Phanteks, and Silverstone. There are a ton of good choices and it ultimately comes down to regional pricing.

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Skylake really isn't worth the added cost over Haswell, so unless the cost difference (in total factoring in CPU, motherboard, and RAM) is minimal, he should save money and go with Haswell. 

 

Now, whether or not a 4790k is worthwhile over a 4690k comes down to how much he wants to spend. Right now a 4690k offers nearly identical performance to a 4790k in all but a handful of games. DX12 aims to change that...but we'll see how that actually turns out. 

 

With all of that said, I haven't read most of the thread, so I may be repeating something that's already been said, BUT..... 

A 960 + 4690k (or 4790k) is the wrong approach. Go with a locked i5 (i5-4440/4460) and an R9 390. THEN you can upgrade to a better cpu. 

 

 

Most modern SSDs are equally reliable and fast in terms of what an actual consumer would notice. So, there really isn't any reason to not just get the cheapest ssd (from a reputable brand -- Samsung, Adata, Crucial, Kingston (excluding the V300), Sandisk, Intel, OCZ, PNY, or Mushkin). OCZ used to have issues, but they've been solved post their 4 series. 

 

As for read/write speeds -- they're basically irrelevant unless you're transferring large amounts of data on a frequent basis, and even then most SSDs (of the same capacity) are within 50Mbps of each other (once you get above 240gb -- sub 240gb SSDs are less consistent). The important factor of an SSD is the latency -- which is pretty consistent across all SSDs. 

 

For a case, I'd check out Corsair, NZXT, Cooler Master, Fractal Design, Phanteks, and Silverstone. There are a ton of good choices and it ultimately comes down to regional pricing.

 

I would have to disagree with the locked processor suggestion. OP was already considering a 4690k which is perfect because when he wants to overclock he wont have spend $240-$350 on another processor.

 

Every case brand he suggested I do agree with.

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I would have to disagree with the locked processor suggestion. OP was already considering a 4690k which is perfect because when he wants to overclock he wont have spend $240-$350 on another processor.

 

Every case brand he suggested I do agree with.

Yes, an unlocked CPU is great since he can overclock it; HOWEVER, his 960 is going to bottleneck him long before an i5-4440 would. An i5-4440+R9 390 will result in much better performance than a 4690k+GTX960.

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Yes, an unlocked CPU is great since he can overclock it; HOWEVER, his 960 is going to bottleneck him long before an i5-4440 would. An i5-4440+R9 390 will result in much better performance than a 4690k+GTX960.

 

The 960 bottleneck - ing him is irrelevant because he's still going to have pretty good system. It's not like he's going to be playing games at 4k. Once you buy a locked processor, YOU'RE STUCK WITH IT. That is unless you get a refund.

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The 960 bottleneck - ing him is irrelevant because he's still going to have pretty good system. It's not like he's going to be playing games at 4k. Once you buy a locked processor, YOU'RE STUCK WITH IT. That is unless you get a refund.

The same can be said for going with a 960 over a 390..... However, if he's going to be spending the money he may as well spend it in the place that provides the greatest benefit. By your logic he shouldn't get a 390 OR a 4690k since he won't notice any actual benefits of it. Instead he should just save money and go with an i5-4440 + R9 380/960. 

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The same can be said for going with a 960 over a 390..... However, if he's going to be spending the money he may as well spend it in the place that provides the greatest benefit. By your logic he shouldn't get a 390 OR a 4690k since he won't notice any actual benefits of it. Instead he should just save money and go with an i5-4440 + R9 380/960. 

 

I never stated that he should not get a 4690k. I'm saying he should not buy a locked processor like the 4440 or any other non k processor.

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I never stated that he should not get a 4690k. I'm saying he should not buy a locked processor like the 4440 or any other non k processor.

Yes, and by doing so you're saying that a 4690k over a 4440 is better than a 390 over a 960 because "he's not going to be playing at 4k" -- i.e. the 390 won't offer any tangible benefit over a 960 since both will max games at 60 fps (which isn't true by any means.... a 390 will yield noticeably better performance even at 1080p over a 960). 

 

Please. Read over what's been posted and actually think. An i5-4440 won't even bottleneck a 989Ti in many situations -- there is no justifiable reason to step up to an unlocked i5 until you've already reached a certain level of GPU performance. 

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Yes, and by doing so you're saying that a 4690k over a 4440 is better than a 390 over a 960 because "he's not going to be playing at 4k" -- i.e. the 390 won't offer any tangible benefit over a 960 since both will max games at 60 fps (which isn't true by any means.... a 390 will yield noticeably better performance even at 1080p over a 960). 

 

Please. Read over what's been posted and actually think. An i5-4440 won't even bottleneck a 989Ti in many situations -- there is no justifiable reason to step up to an unlocked i5 until you've already reached a certain level of GPU performance. 

 

Alright McCool name. Do you have any references to support your claims? YouTube videos? Reviews? Because a i5 4440 WILL bottleneck a 980ti.

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Alright McCool name. Do you have any references to support your claims? YouTube videos? Reviews? Because a i5 4440 WILL bottleneck a 980ti.

An i5-4440 will borderline bottleneck a 980Ti and it will depend entirely on the use case. Either way, a 4440+R9 390 will still yield far better performance than a 4690k + 960. And since reviewers usually use a heavily overclocked/top of the line CPU in order to avoid any potential CPU bottleneck when testing it's hard to find any valid benchmarks short of some random youtube videos. However, having a 4690k and a GTX780, I can safely say that even at stock speeds I'm not even close to bottlenecking a 780; extrapolate that out and take into account the random questionable youtube sources and you can safely say a locked i5 won't hinder a 980Ti much at worst, and will handle it suitably at best. But again, I'm not recommending a locked i5 +980Ti, because it's not a smart match up. 

 

You should go with a locked i5 until you're at an R9 390, at that point switch to an unlocked i5/i7 if you have left over budget. 

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An i5-4440 will borderline bottleneck a 980Ti and it will depend entirely on the use case. Either way, a 4440+R9 390 will still yield far better performance than a 4690k + 960. And since reviewers usually use a heavily overclocked/top of the line CPU in order to avoid any potential CPU bottleneck when testing it's hard to find any valid benchmarks short of some random youtube videos. However, having a 4690k and a GTX780, I can safely say that even at stock speeds I'm not even close to bottlenecking a 780. 

 

You know, if you look at my profile I got a Brawn achievement on 3DMark. What's the brawn badge for?

 

For this : Your GPU is ready to Rumble, but your CPU doesn't want to play.

 

My hardware? a i5 + GTX 970. Case in point, a i5 WILL bottleneck a 980ti heck even my GTX 970 is bottlenecked by a i5. It's all in my steam community profile on the 3DMark achievements. I'm not lying.

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You should go with a locked i5 until you're at an R9 390, at that point switch to an unlocked i5/i7 if you have left over budget. 

 

This doesn't make sense because he's going to spend twice the amount of money he should not have to on a processor.

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You know, if you look at my profile I got a Brawn achievement on 3DMark. What's the brawn badge for?

 

For this : Your GPU is ready to Rumble, but your CPU doesn't want to play.

 

My hardware? a i5 + GTX 970. Case in point, a i5 WILL bottleneck a 980ti heck even my GTX 970 is bottlenecked by a i5. It's all in my steam community profile on the 3DMark achievements. I'm not lying.

Synthetic benchmarks don't mean shit. 

 

 

This doesn't make sense because he's going to spend twice the amount of money he should not have to on a processor.

Vs. spending that money upgrading the GPU. Except than i5+R9 390 will last longer than a 4690k+960. 

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Synthetic benchmarks don't mean shit. 

 

But you don't have a single thing to back up what your saying.

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Synthetic benchmarks don't mean shit. 

 

 

Vs. spending that money upgrading the GPU. Except than i5+R9 390 will last longer than a 4690k+960. 

 

I asked for references and you kept giving me your opinions.

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But you don't have a single thing to back up what your saying.

I asked for references and you kept giving me your opinions.

R9 390 + 4440 -- 9.7k in Firestrike http://www.3dmark.com/search?_ga=1.176145698.1028919113.1445884328#/?mode=advanced&url=/proxycon/ajax/search/cpugpu/fs/P/1722/1036/500000?minScore=0&cpuName=IntelCore i5-4440&gpuName=AMD Radeon R9 390

vs. 

GTX960 + 4690k - 7.7k in Firestrike http://www.3dmark.com/search?_ga=1.176145698.1028919113.1445884328#/?mode=advanced&url=/proxycon/ajax/search/cpugpu/fs/P/1826/1010/500000?minScore=0&cpuName=IntelCore i5-4690K&gpuName=NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960

 

And again, that's still a synthetic benchmark, which still favors a better CPU far more than most games will. 

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Well I looked up a comparison on benchmarks for most games on R9 380 vs GTX 960 and surprisingly R9 380 came out on top.

 

Relative to this video

 

 

I also looked up the current value of the GPU and its actually not too far priced from the gtx 960 with being only about $190 as well https://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-r9380gaming2g

 

As for the processor however, if its possible that all these will run on the same motherboard with no issues with using a intel i5 4690k then that should be fine if its not bottlenecking yes?

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