Sakamoto Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYPBU26CK4k This sums it up pretty good for those who don't like to read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTF-A Vegan?! Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Bruh..... Do you even know what osteoporosis is? It's when your body needs more calcium and starts absorbing your bones for the calcium. (Or when your body can make new bone fast enough or starts absorbing your old bone too fast) This happens because your don't have enough calcium in your diet in the first place. By not getting your diary, you're most like to get osteoporosis. FTW, correlation does not equal causation Epidemiological studies are the best thing for nutrition studies as causal studies are not very easy to carry off in nutritional science. I am completely aware of what osteoporosis is. Just google the topic on google scholar or on pub med or look into any recent nutrition journal. The calcium in dairy is not as accessible as you may think. Here are some scientific articles on the matter: V Matkovic, P K Goel, N E Badenshop-Stevens, J D Landoll, B Li, J Z Ilich, M Skugor, L A Nagode, S L Mobley, E J Ha, T N Hangartner, A Clairmont. Calcium supplementation and bone mineral density in females from childhood to young adulthood: a randomized controlled trial. Am J Clin Nutr. 2005 Jan;81(1):175-88. H A Bischoff-Ferrari, B Dawson-Hughes, J A Baron, J A Kanis, E J Orav, H B Staehelin, D P Kiel, P Burckhardt, J Henschkowski, D Spiegleman, R Li, J B Wong, D Feskanich, W C Willett. Milk intake and risk of hip fracture in men and women: a meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies. D Feskanich, H A Bischoff-Ferrari, A L Frazier, W C Willet. Milk consumption during teenage years and risk of hip fractures in older adults. JAMA Pediatr. 2014 Jan;168(1):54-60.​ ​​D Feskanich, W C Willett. Early-Life Milk and Late-Life Fracture Reply. JAMA Pediatr. 2014;168(7):683-684. A Phillip. Study: Milk may not be very good for bones or the body. NA. K Michaelsson, A Wolk, S Langenskiold, S Basu, Warensjo Lemming, H Melhus, L Byberg. Milk intake and risk of mortality and fractures in women and men: cohort studies. BMJ. 2014 Oct 28;349:g6015. L A Batey, C K Welt, F Rohr, A Wessel, V Anastasoaie, H A Feldman, C Y Guo, E Rubio-Gozalbo, G Berry, C M Gordon. Skeletal health in adult patients with classic galactosemia. Osteoporos Int. 2013 Feb;24(2):501-9. CM Schooling. Milk and mortality. BMJ 2014; 349. A. L. Darling, D. J. Millward, D. J. Torgerson, C. E. Hewitt, and S. A. Lanham-New. Dietary protein and bone health: A systematic review and meta-analysis. Am. J. Clin. Nutr., 90(6):1674-1692, 2009. M. M. Adeva, G. Souto. Diet-induced metabolic acidosis. Clin Nutr 2011 30(4):416 - 421. M. P. Thorpe, E. M. Evans. Dietary protein and bone health: Harmonizing conflicting theories. Nutr. Rev. 2011 69(4):215 - 230. A. L. Darling, D. J. Millward, D. J. Torgerson, C. E. Hewitt, S. A. Lanham-New. Dietary protein and bone health: A systematic review and meta-analysis. Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 2009 90(6):1674 - 1692 J. E. Kerstetter. Dietary protein and bone: A new approach to an old question. Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 2009 90(6):1451 - 1452 N. M. Maalouf, O. W. Moe, B. Adams-Huet, K. Sakhaee. Hypercalciuria associated with high dietary protein intake is not due to acid load. J. Clin. Endocrinol. Metab. 2011 96(12):3733 - 3740. J. Calvez, N. Poupin, C. Chesneau, C. Lassale, D. Tomé. Protein intake, calcium balance and health consequences. Eur J Clin Nutr 2012 66(3):281 - 295. J. E. Kerstetter, K. O. O'Brien, D. M. Caseria, D. E. Wall, K. L. Insogna. The impact of dietary protein on calcium absorption and kinetic measures of bone turnover in women. J. Clin. Endocrinol. Metab. 2005 90(1):26 - 31. Dean Assimos. Re: Hypercalciuria associated with high dietary protein intake is not due to acid load. J. Clin. Endocrinol. Metab. 2011 96(12):3733 - 3740 J. J. Cao, L. K. Johnson, J. R. Hunt. A diet high in meat protein and potential renal acid load increases fractional calcium absorption and urinary calcium excretion without affecting markers of bone resorption or formation in postmenopausal women. J. Nutr. 2011 141(3):391 - 397. L. M. Ausman, L. M. Oliver, B. R. Goldin, M. N. Woods, S. L. Gorbach, J. T. Dwyer. Estimated net acid excretion inversely correlates with urine pH in vegans, lacto-ovo vegetarians, and omnivores. J Ren Nutr 2008 18(5):456 - 465. G. K. Schwalfenberg. The alkaline diet: Is there evidence that an alkaline pH diet benefits health? J Environ Public Health. 2012 2012:727630. B. Dawson-Hughes, S. S. Harris, L. Ceglia. Alkaline diets favor lean tissue mass in older adults. Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 2008 87(3):662 - 665. P. Deriemaeker, D. Aerenhouts, M. Hebbelinck, P. Clarys. Nutrient based estimation of acid-base balance in vegetarians and non-vegetarians. Plant Foods Hum Nutr 2010 65(1):77 - 82. And a non-scholarly article to break it down for you ​Phillip A. Study: Milk may not be very good for bones or the body. The Washington Post. October 31, 2014. Many of these pertain to Osteoporosis, acidosis and fracture rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTF-A Vegan?! Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Above I've linked nearly two dozen studies, some inconclusive some conclusive, read them and make up your own mind but don't just spout nonsense. One of the cohort studies (the second linked study IIRC) is inconclusive, you can use this to help educate yourself on it. However don't just spout something you read on reddit etc without first looking into it. At very least don't be so rude "bruh" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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