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i dont think its so hard to fight the price manipulator tactics that the suggestion system is suffering from

 

as an example i will use the latest and bigest price manipulation i have managed to find

http://backpack.tf/vote.php?skip=0&all=1&steamid=76561198058710999

Fireproof secret diary

 

Kristmass of heart have spamed suggest on that item for several days succeding to lower the price from 1.5 buds to 17 keys

 

he have a lot of pure in keys currencie to buy them but he is still not buyingat current price he is buying them at 12 keys

but he is not suggesting a new range as he was when he didn't own one

 

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14530709#p45319855

 

 

A)Why is it allowed to the same person to spam suggest new ranges in the same item over and over again.

B)Can we cap the suggestions in a specific item made by the same person like 1 suggestion per month(for the same item).

 

the diary was steady selling for 1.5-2 buds for 1.2 years until someone decides to drop it down to 15 keys i dont know

is it just me or this is suspicious?

 

also the specific item it is not in any use it's as crafting ingredient in tf2 schema and probably a chemistry set that will launch soon it is related to it.

all those are apeculations though and i dont care if it drops at 1 key

 

but given the quantity of it 750 as much as the houwars whatever the chem set is going to be it is houwar related

either a strangifier or a modifier(witch we havent seen 1 yet).

 

what you think

 

as a sidenote: i know the practices of kristmass of heart first handed as we where competing eachothers in halloween spells sells

he was spam suggesting in specific items (spectrall spectrum-bills hat-keys-bmocs-fireproof diary)

this is no big surprise for me. i am watching his doings for over 7 months and i am surprised on how he have managed to get away with that.

 

also

a person that is manipulating prices for his own benefit must not be allowed to suggest again for a 6-12 month period.

 

 

closing

Question to Brad Pitt:

Is it possible to remove price suggestions for marketable items (except unusuals) and instead just mirror the steam market median sells value for valuing our bp's?

I have quit trading for items that are not marketableand i have no interest into buy any not even promo -bill buds bmocs - cause of that reason.

and i am collecting only marketable items

 

steam in my game ui my inventory has the option to see the current value of my item.if you could use that it would be very helpfull for me and other marketers.

Those marketable items are usually have a very steady value steadier than any promo,plus it is the official community market and those words are enough to put it above any bp/tf outpost bazaar tp proofs we will ever get.

 

i hope bp/tf can evolve further and i hope this is helpfull to some.

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"also i am selling mine for 1.5 buds you can have it but i think you cant buy it"

 

Good luck with that, simple fact is noone wants the diaries anymore.

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i have the feeling that backpack.tf is starting to lead the market on these diaries now instead of follow it. it was overpriced at first, but now theres like a suggestion every day. We need to let this adjust first before pricing it again

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"also i am selling mine for 1.5 buds you can have it but i think you cant buy it"

 

Good luck with that, simple fact is noone wants the diaries anymore.

 

not realy going to sell it mate i am going to horde them as well now that they are so cheap i am looking to buy 10-15 so who cares sealy

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+the burning sola topi

Pyroman i am going to buy all the strangifiers and the remain strange miscs my bp is going to be private from now on cause i litterely own more strangifierrs than steam community market has for sell.

i want to thank you for your suggestions on the strange miscs you helped me out a lot by pricing the miscs half the price of the strangifiers.For every strangifier i was selling i was buying 2 miscs,now miscs are marketeble guess who is having a party?

and since i dont need you guys any more i salute you take care i can start now the next part of my plan you will see me again till then antios

as an advice get rid of your buds

steam os is coming and tux will eat them all

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Pyroman i am going to buy all the strangifiers and the remain strange miscs my bp is going to be private from now on cause i litterely own more strangifierrs than steam community market has for sell.

i want to thank you for your suggestions on the strange miscs you helped me out a lot by pricing the miscs half the price of the strangifiers.For every strangifier i was selling i was buying 2 miscs,now miscs are marketeble guess who is having a party?

and since i dont need you guys any more i salute you take care i can start now the next part of my plan you will see me again till then antios

as an advice get rid of your buds

steam os is coming and tux will eat them all

 

 

 

OMG somebody mentioned the ugly butt-penguin. I don't think manipulation was needed for for chem set products. Also, the diery us useless. I assume kristmass of heart started to suggest a price drop because he realized they were not selling at their earlier price. As for your rivalry, I don't even know what to say.

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"also i am selling mine for 1.5 buds you can have it but i think you cant buy it"

 

Good luck with that, simple fact is noone wants the diaries anymore.

 

you miss the point i dont care about non marketable items like buds max diaries and that kind of staff.

i dont have any interested at all in non marketable items

as they tend to be manipulated with suggestions to much

 

as an example i was selling the sight for sore eyes strangifier for 4 keys firm

pyroman suggest the strange misc to be 2-3 keys

for every strangifier i was selling i was buying 2 miscs

i was reapiting that since for almost 1 month and now i have in my bp an equal number of strangifiers as the steam communit market does and a hell lot off miscs that are marketable as well.

i started that buiseness with 8 keys and raise it to 10 buds in 3 weeks

 

something i wouldnt be able to achieve if it wasnt for pyroman's suggestion he practicly ignored the sells i made in the strangifiers market and he thought like all of you did that the strange miscs are just another strange that will quickly drop as the weapons do.

:(

Take a look at the outpost bazaar  classifieds and warehouse then take a look at my bp.

you ll get the picture. i have no need of suggestions or advice any longer i own the strangifier market and through that and you rsuggestions i will own the strange misc market in a week or so.

but unfortunate you wont be able to buy them outside of steam market.

i dont trust your mods either your admins anymore.

 

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OMG somebody mentioned the ugly butt-penguin. I don't think manipulation was needed for for chem set products. Also, the diery us useless. I assume kristmass of heart started to suggest a price drop because he realized they were not selling at their earlier price. As for your rivalry, I don't even know what to say.

you really think that the diary is useless??

so they have it to the craft ingredients for no purpose

tux and steam os have nothing to do with linux?

sure macs are way better for gaming and the buds will be praised by the linux users(steam os users)

you are a small minded person that can't see the future.Tux is the steam os mascot and its going to be tradable the day the steam os will be available for download.this is the new era and you have no idea.

 

all it takes to embrace that is to use windows 8 for 2 hours.if you can use that excuse of an os for that long then you deserve a medal.

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you really think that the diary is useless??

so they have it to the craft ingredients for no purpose

tux and steam os have nothing to do with linux?

sure macs are way better for gaming and the buds will be praised by the linux users(steam os users)

you are a small minded person that can't see the future.Tux is the steam os mascot and its going to be tradable the day the steam os will be available for download.this is the new era and you have no idea.

 

all it takes to embrace that is to use windows 8 for 2 hours.if you can use that excuse of an os for that long then you deserve a medal.

Wtf does this speculation have to do with price manipulation?

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i dont think i've ever read so much stupid in my life....

 

unless valve makes the tux tradeable, it won't become a currency no matter what os steam is supporting. Plus, there are 93,000 tuxs all being hoarded by people.

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+the burning sola topi

 

what about the topi ?? it is in the range i said it should be so whats wrong abou it?

 

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i dont think i've ever read so much stupid in my life....

 

unless valve makes the tux tradeable, it won't become a currency no matter what os steam is supporting. Plus, there are 93,000 tuxs all being hoarded by people.

 

i know mate i used to horde buds it was as wasy as it was with the tux

but i can see the oportunity when is in front of my face.

let the time proove me wrong..

or right

 

i did the mistake to sell the buds at 10 keys each i wont repeat that in the future with the tux.

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+the burning sola topi

 

what about the topi ?? it is in the range i said it should be so whats wrong abou it?

 

 

>what's wrong about it?

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you shamelessly tried to manipulate your own unusual at least 12 times, and it wasn't even outdated

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