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Sigh, don't know why this got accepted either...no proof on that either :/

 

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55393a25b98d88652a8b46ac

 

Wait what?

Now it's getting a bit more serious.

 

 

It was being moved to the random craft hat blanket with the low end raised to 1.33 refs instead of 1.22 refs since all random craft hats should not be lower than that. 

 

Yet there was 0(zero) proof for 1.66. There was a thread about blind moving things to blanket.

your turn pls

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The 1.66 refs was from the high end of the existing range. There were at least 100+ of these suggestions after the random hat blanket was updated. It was a quick fix to many craft hats and this hat sort of slipped through all those suggestions so i guess that was the rationale there. 

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Wait what?

Now it's getting a bit more serious.

 

 

 

Yet there was 0(zero) proof for 1.66. There was a thread about blind moving things to blanket.

your turn pls

 

 

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Thanks, i'm out, that's kinda weird anyway, relying on sales that happened a month ago (Victoria's example)

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Thanks, i'm out, that's kinda weird anyway, relying on sales that happened a month ago (Victoria's example)

 

I only created these suggestions for items that were updated less than a week ago at that time. I checked to make sure there were no sellers at 1.22 either.

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It was being moved to the random craft hat blanket with the low end raised to 1.33 refs instead of 1.22 refs since all random craft hats should not be lower than that. 

I'm unsure if this rule is an official rule though.

I managed to get ~15-20 suggestions in doing this but I saw some other people get declined.

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Puddington has done a good chunk of mistakes, but the backpack.tf community can easily fix such a mistake if it's spotted, just like I did with the Festive Wrangler.

Although such mistakes shouldn't happen, they do, but are easily fixable.

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Yeah that doesn't make sense to why it was accepted, 1 unbumped seller at 16 isn't valid at all.

Interesting that he is selling them for 17 yet drops the price to 16. 

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It looks like he sold a bunch of them and then dropped the price based on invalid proof right after he did so tbh.

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puddington is a good mod, I'd just much rather have him post reasoning for accepting or declining things rather than have him sift through tons of suggestions per day, and not give the suggestors any feedback

 

Puddington has done a good chunk of mistakes, but the backpack.tf community can easily fix such a mistake if it's spotted, just like I did with the Festive Wrangler.

Although such mistakes shouldn't happen, they do, but are easily fixable.

not always, the suggestion that really set off alarms to me was with the cloud 9 cannonball

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5495cef1b88d88293d8b482bthis suggestion was accepted, however there was sooo much more proof to be found that puddington completely ignored

this suggestion I made addressing that issue: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/549764a3b98d8857308b4878, however people had already lowered prices according to bp so I closed it, ended up costing me around 15 keys

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But majority at 4.5 I guess and also 4 keys.

So the mods are then allowed to ignore all the given "if there's a sold above your highest end and it's not an outlier then you must include it" rules?

 

Sales from the rejected suggestion; http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55446538ba8d8856468b4606 . Credit to Roller.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25727185

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25805863

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25840682

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25819168

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25709297

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25840068

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25815690

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25839059

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25737375

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25794214

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25807599

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25825077

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25829837

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25805863

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25821958

http://imgur.com/8kOGK2u [Credit to Brizio]

http://prntscr.com/70al1f [Credit to 2+2=?]

http://imgur.com/TkwWPsG [Credit to Xosmin]

 

I looked through the suggestion that got accepted; http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5541b9c1b98d88686b8b4635 and I found these links that seem to have sold:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25822065 [was 5 at the time of sales]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25815690

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25800545

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25794214

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25570628

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25822134

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25817786

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25807599

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25825077

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25814486

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25829754

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25805863

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25828261

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25828799

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25822121

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25829316

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25820257

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25819168

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25827467

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25826675

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25787957

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25779349

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25826455

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25825008

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25824149

+ More

 

That, in my opinion, would be enough to prove this suggestion was falsely accepted and the price should be reverted by Fiskie or someone else.

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http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5546f28fb98d88d2178b45fb

 

No proof for low end yet accepted. Ok then. If this continue like this I will be quiting bp.tf for good. Sorry, but apparently nothing have changed since the last time I quit. This time I won't be back. And I am sure that me missing will be a loss for the site since I suggest all the time and I'm one of the top contributors...

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http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5546f28fb98d88d2178b45fb

 

No proof for low end yet accepted. Ok then. If this continue like this I will be quiting bp.tf for good. Sorry, but apparently nothing have changed since the last time I quit. This time I won't be back. And I am sure that me missing will be a loss for the site since I suggest all the time and I'm one of the top contributors...

 

Mopcko, don't play the ''its them or me'' card in this situation, because it's obvious who everyone has no choice but to pick, and you leaving does nothing to help the situation - if anything it makes it worse.

Be on my screening team and help me push that through, that resolves the issue <3

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I think I remember seeing an old forum post explaining the change from USD values w/ bud blanket to bud values, and puddington saying that he preferred the more general pricing, like if there's offers around 3.2 and 3.4 and sales at 3 and 3.6, just let it be really nice number like 3-3.5. He seems like the sort of person that would rather estimate the value of something using a fair bit of logic and common sense, and would rather have nice, generic values that are easy to understand rather than having all that 1-1.05 key range crap :P

 

It's just the way he works as a moderator, it looks like - every time something is accepted on his behalf that may look iffy, it's generally a judgement call. I personally believe he should stay a moderator (a LOT of normal item suggestions are accepted on his behalf and he's still one of the bigger traders in TF2 currently, as well as one of the most prolific) simply because even though he's slipped up before, everyone's bound to. His mistakes seem to be a lot more obvious though - I'm sure if you look hard enough, every staff member has made at least one mistake :P

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Mopcko, don't play the ''its them or me'' card in this situation, because it's obvious who everyone has no choice but to pick, and you leaving does nothing to help the situation - if anything it makes it worse.

Be on my screening team and help me push that through, that resolves the issue <3

Sorry, it's too late. I am making one or few more suggestions and I am done with this site. The harm has been done.

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Sorry, it's too late. I am making one or few more suggestions and I am done with this site. The harm has been done.

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