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Closing of two suggestions - Puddington Bear

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regi

Hello, I would like to know why these suggestions here were closed with technically no reasoning.

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5529c493ba8d88f0568b45db

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/552a1de6b88d88164d8b4704

 

There was no counter proof given thus it was not "bad proof". If it's the age of the suggestion/trade, that's out of my control, if anything it's the websites backlog issue.

 

I look forward to seeing a response soon.

Thanks.

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Puddilicious

The current prices represent current trading points better. There are several Bugfoots for sale at 0.11 and there are more Bristles for sale at and that have sold for 2 refined than for 2.11 refined.

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regi

The current prices represent current trading points better. There are several Bugfoots for sale at 0.11 and there are more Bristles for sale at and that have sold for 2 refined than for 2.11 refined.

Could you please give me some examples?

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sulker

Bugfoot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25310293'Backpack.tf price': 1 scrap

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25629058'Backpack.tf price': 1 scrap

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/255555291 scrap

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25814365'Backpack.tf price': 1 scrap

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25782053'higher end Backpack.tf price': 1 scrap

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25798343'Backpack.tf price': 1 scrap

 

Classifieds also support 0.11 as range, 3 of 3 selling for 1 scrap each.

 

9 of 9 sellers selling for 1 scrap each vs a single 2 scrap sale.  I'd agree with Puddington

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regi

Bugfoot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25310293'Backpack.tf price': 1 scrap

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25629058'Backpack.tf price': 1 scrap

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/255555291 scrap

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25814365'Backpack.tf price': 1 scrap

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25782053'higher end Backpack.tf price': 1 scrap

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25798343'Backpack.tf price': 1 scrap

 

Classifieds also support 0.11 as range, 3 of 3 selling for 1 scrap each.

 

9 of 9 sellers selling for 1 scrap each vs a single 2 scrap sale.  I'd agree with Puddington

Got anything for the other one though?

And if no one noticed, the bugfoot had a range.

 

Pudding is right man

IDC what you think.

You're not being useful and you're not in the conversation.

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sulker

Got anything for the other one though?

And if no one noticed, the bugfoot had a range.

You're the suggester, you're the one who's supposed to disprove Puddington???

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regi

You're the suggester, you're the one who's supposed to disprove Puddington???

Yes, I am the suggester.

I had the entire market at the time there.

A mod cannot close the suggestion without any proof.

All Puddington did was close it with a copy/paste/default reason which is was blatantly wrong.

 

If a mod then says "there was valid counter proof" and then does not show any then what's to say the mod wasn't manipulating the price?

 

EDIT: The bugfoot had a range and I had proved 0.22 sells. Unless there was an abundance of 0.11 sellers that out-wayed the 0.22+new ones that could probably be tracked given time, there was no valid reasoning for closing that one.

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Roller

Hello, I would like to know why these suggestions here were closed with technically no reasoning.

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5529c493ba8d88f0568b45db

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/552a1de6b88d88164d8b4704

 

There was no counter proof given thus it was not "bad proof". If it's the age of the suggestion/trade, that's out of my control, if anything it's the websites backlog issue.

 

I look forward to seeing a response soon.

Thanks.

 

 

Your suggestions are really unconvincing.

 

On the Bug-foot, there are no traders selling it for 2 scraps on outpost, and most of them are selling theirs for a scrap.

From Sulker's evidence and the Outpost currently, 0.11 is the main trading point here. 0.22 is an outlier with so much available at 0.11. 

Unless you've shown more sales at 0.22, I don't think there will be any chance of accepting.

 

I'm not really sure about your other suggestion though, there are no current sellers at 2 refined on Outpost (I'm not sure if there are or not, but current Outpost doesn't have any) and you haven't provide any evidence back then that 2 refined is a quick-sell. Also, 2.11 would be too little for a raise. The price now although is outdated, but a scrap difference would have made no difference. I do agree that your range is more accurate than 2 refined, but I'm sure that it's not even worth 2.11 as shown here. Offers at 3 refined really disproves that 2.11 to be in the range.

 

 

Pudding is right man

 

Don't get biased. Moderators do have their mistakes as well.

Here's an example of Puddington doing his mistake.

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regi

Your suggestions are really unconvincing.

 

On the Bug-foot, there are no traders selling it for 2 scraps on outpost, and most of them are selling theirs for a scrap.

From Sulker's evidence and the Outpost currently, 0.11 is the main trading point here. 0.22 is an outlier with so much available at 0.11. 

Unless you've shown more sales at 0.22, I don't think there will be any chance of accepting.

 

I'm not really sure about your other suggestion though, there are no current sellers at 2 refined on Outpost (I'm not sure if there are or not, but current Outpost doesn't have any) and you haven't provide any evidence back then that 2 refined is a quick-sell. Also, 2.11 would be too little for a raise. The price now although is outdated, but a scrap difference would have made no difference. I do agree that your range is more accurate than 2 refined, but I'm sure that it's not even worth 2.11 as shown here. Offers at 3 refined really disproves that 2.11 to be in the range.

OK, what you've and Sulker have shown was the Bug-Foot was inaccurate. I'll take that and accept defeat on that one.

 

The other hat, with that offer at 3 refined is anything but counter-proof. If he was to take that, the price could've been 2.11-3 ref and you know that. Offers mean nothing until acted on.

"there are no current sellers at 2 refined on Outpost" > This is proving 2 ref is a quicksell without me even having to try to. If there's none on outpost for 2 ref it either means they get snatched up quickly or no one wants to "quick" sell it at the current "price".

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