Mushroom Knight Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 My vintage huntsman suggestion was closed with 67.2% of the vote. How do the admins decide these things? http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5203b6dc4bd7b88a14000020
ThatOtherChigga #Mack Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Well, 1,Counterproof was good. 2. Most voters don't even open the suggestion 3. Most voters are biased 4. Mods get the final say
Mushroom Knight Posted August 13, 2013 Author Posted August 13, 2013 So basically I shouldn't even try...
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 So basically I shouldn't even try...Basically you should make a good suggestion. A mod can't override the voters if the suggestion is good.
Mushroom Knight Posted August 13, 2013 Author Posted August 13, 2013 I dont even understand now what do you consider a "good" suggestion. In my opinion markets are determinedd by users. If there is high demand they will vote to increase. If there is low demand then they should vote to decrease. Since I got more than half the vote I think it should have passed.
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 I dont even understand now what do you consider a "good" suggestion. In my opinion markets are determinedd by users. If there is high demand they will vote to increase. If there is low demand then they should vote to decrease. Since I got more than half the vote I think it should have passed.Except most voters don't even open the suggestion. They see a price decreasing slightly, and assume its correct. Look through suggestions throughout the history of the site. As a general rule, suggestions lowering the price of an item usually have a higher percentage than ones trying to raise the price. Prices are set based on the market. Well, 4 of your 6 links sold for 2 Rec. I.e. the users are willing to pay 2 Rec. Four of the six you listed as "unsold for .66" have actually sold. Therefore, it seems people are able to sell for 2 rec, even if it is a bit slow. The range shouldn't be lowered yet.So, the only reason you had to lower the v. huntsman's price was invalid.
Leeo282 Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 I practically give up when a mod close my 75% positive suggestion and same suggestion is accepted some time later. One person can ruin one hour of my free hard labor. Never wasting my time again.
Mushroom Knight Posted August 13, 2013 Author Posted August 13, 2013 The evidence that said unsold was unsold when i got the evidence. Not whenever they decided to check. I looked thru all the trades at that time to make sure they were actually still open
ERASER BY Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Moderator's comment I think explains the whole situation " Four of the six you listed as "unsold for .66" have actually sold. Therefore, it seems people are able to sell for 2 rec, even if it is a bit slow. The range shouldn't be lowered yet. " UP+ Shenanigans
MC22 Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Nubs make bad suggestion mod closes nub rages classic humor
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 The evidence that said unsold was unsold when i got the evidence. Not whenever they decided to check. I looked thru all the trades at that time to make sure they were actually still openEXACTLY. Saying that the vintage huntsman should be .33-.44 instead of .33-.66 is saying, that .66 is incorrect and will NOT sell. Well, 4 of the 6 sellers at .66 sold. So clearly it can sell for .66, therefore .66 belongs in the range.
ThatOtherChigga #Mack Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 I practically give up when a mod close my 75% positive suggestion and same suggestion is accepted some time later. One person can ruin one hour of my free hard labor. Never wasting my time again. *some time later the market changes over time, or didn't you know that? The evidence that said unsold was unsold when i got the evidence. Not whenever they decided to check. I looked thru all the trades at that time to make sure they were actually still open Solid counterproof was provided...if we accepted suggestions based on the # of positive votes keys would be at 2.33 even though that's not the right price.
Leeo282 Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 I mean one month in "Sometime later." Now, I examine that old suggestion. It turn out that the accept suggestion for vintage luger had only 55% positive. His proof is just this one line:"People are happily buying for 10 keys. Just try to find someone selling for 9 keys. I dare you. http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/79117032" I didn't remember it was this unfair. I am actually getting a bit angry after reexamining this. Well enough, this just remind me why I should not bother suggesting.
AwesomeMcCoolName Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 I mean one month in "Sometime later." Now, I examine that old suggestion. It turn out that the accept suggestion for vintage luger had only 55% positive. His proof is just this one line:"People are happily buying for 10 keys. Just try to find someone selling for 9 keys. I dare you. http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/79117032" I didn't remember it was this unfair. I am actually getting a bit angry after reexamining this. Well enough, this just remind me why I should not bother suggesting. Because prices don't change over the course of a month.
Leeo282 Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Because prices don't change over the course of a month. Don't put word into my mouth. I was trying to clarifying in case someone thought I mean months and even a year. While price can change in a month, vintage luger at the time had a pretty stable price. I noticed the price range increase on market and profit from it quite a bit, and decide to share the good news to other traders. I suggested and majority agree with me. After mine got denied, couple others also suggested the same things within that month. Until that one poorly constructed suggestion finally got accepted by an different admin. Maybe the backpack.tf had better regulation today than 7 months ago. I don't know, You could have argue that instead. If you going to troll me by cherry picking one vague point and ignoring my main argument, I won't bother replying to you next time.
cleverpun Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Please follow the correct format for threads such as these; http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/75-guidelines-for-suggestion-question-threads/ ~shenanigans explained themselves on the suggestion, don't see much point to this thread.
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