d0 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 "Aw, man! I was so totally about to give PPM SR authority! For real, I sure was but then you went and hired d0. Oh, no! For real, I was keeping it a secret surprise that I was going to suddenly bestow upon you." "Why would you tell me that? If I'm supposed to demonstrate that I both want and deserve (in your opinion) that then you should wait for that to happen." "Oh yeah but it's just so really disappointing now. It really truly was, for sure, going to happen. You could have all of this magical internet authority. All that you've got to do is just get rid of that person. Most groups have to demonstrate or be willing to demonstrate acceptable (to me) behaviour first but not in this special case. I'm just going to go ahead and offer this to you without you asking. ;)" Mattie is a pig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 In my report on FoG, if I may, About half way through, Almost all of the posts made in my defense were removed, without any mention of purpose made, and this would be fine if they hadn't also left the posts against me completely untouched. Same with you, it almost seems like steamrep is out to get people. Just saying, those posts were made by me. Confirming removal of defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 - Didn't read report or any convo's - Fully rely on SR without reading anything about the incident. This is exactly why it's so shitty, SR can do w/e they want because they got trust from some people. It's like saying "tf2tp mod team decisions are always le 100% correct" - Then link post #3 and everyone who got trust by them will be lost... If screenshots of Mattie's conversation and how shitty they deal with things their reputation and trust will be lost, or should at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Map Painter Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I'd donate money to a reliable, trustworthy steamrep alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVenomWithin Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I'd donate money to a reliable, trustworthy steamrep alternative. Cough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Map Painter Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Cough Sourcerep was a nice idea, just executed poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVenomWithin Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Sourcerep was a nice idea, just executed poorly. Aye I agree, I'm working with a team right now to come up with something, hopefully a new site will be up sometime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milz187 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Aye I agree, I'm working with a team right now to come up with something, hopefully a new site will be up sometime soon. Work with the community and not a team, you'll get better input and less of a chance it'll end up like steamrep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genzarata Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Cough Kinda hard to donate to a site that currently doesn't exist. :3 Aye I agree, I'm working with a team right now to come up with something, hopefully a new site will be up sometime soon. Just remember that the camel is a horse designed by committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAAAAHT Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 They don't even know how to spell management, LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 EDIT: Please get the message out and share this - http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/3056km/steamrep_something_needs_to_be_done_about_how_bad/ Mattie lies about me & try "purchase" partnership the moment Pyro sell PPM.tf - http://i.imgur.com/sSZ9fYu.png Fake rep isn't supported by SR, should be handled by bp.tf - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/32494-til-tf2tp-ban-people-with-0-proof/page-3&do=findComment&comment=358114, Eoj response: http://puu.sh/gIieM/c00679b236.png User with partnership get one.. two and THREE mistakes with no warning - http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/report-76561198060976608-tf2-team-fortress-2-items.80034/#post-220566, http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/report-76561198060976608-tf2-team-fortress-2-items.84876/#post-233025 Summary of this thread - tf2tp can't read. SR ban people they dislike or w/e reason they got. Friends with SR get several extra chances. SR lies. Please, don't mix up tf2op or bp.tf with these things. As I never had any issues with tf2op or bp.tf, they do some mistakes but mainly correct them or simply learn from the mistakes. So when is SR gonna wake the fuck up and people actually understand the system and the people behind is trying to fuck up communties and people they don't have interest in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabislav Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 SR is corrupt, nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gren Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 This will only stop once a major site like BP or OP officially disaffiliates itself from SR, i.e. seizes to acknowledge SR as the highest authority in TF2 trading. Then, others will follow. Until then, we live under SR as the ultimate authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixλr900 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Note: I haven't read any replies at time of post. That is fucking stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomp Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Note: I haven't read any replies at time of post. That is fucking stupid replies: sr is a corrupt joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0night Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Just remember that the camel is a horse designed by committee. wtf does that mean... camels are particularly good examples of successful adaptation to difficult environments and (i think) you're trying to make a point about not 'designing by committee'? this whole analogy doesn't work at all. to address the point i think you're making: so we throw teamwork out the window and make one person in charge of designing this new system/get another elite cabal like SR? definitely not a good basis for a reputable site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genzarata Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 wtf does that mean... camels are particularly good examples of successful adaptation to difficult environments and (i think) you're trying to make a point about not 'designing by committee'? this whole analogy doesn't work at all. to address the point i think you're making: so we throw teamwork out the window and make one person in charge of designing this new system/get another elite cabal like SR? definitely not a good basis for a reputable site. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/a_camel_is_a_horse_designed_by_a_committee Learn to Proverb. Also please reread my comment. I did not criticize the idea of a new system, I merely pointed out that compromising due to many varied inputs can lead to a suboptimal outcome. On top of that, having a team lead a site which literally dictates who is reputable in the TF2 trading community will automatically become a cabal - maybe not as corrupt or 'elite', as you put it, in the sense that SteamRep is, but that's besides the point. There is no perfect solution. Additionally, any site with Venom at its head is 'definitely not a good basis for a reputable site', to quote you directly (I'm sorry to bring this up if you're reading this Venom, I have nothing against you, but a mark isn't something that can be ignored). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 Aww, Julia should've poked me regarding his reddit post. Anyway, here's Julia's post - http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/2zvc8m/corrupt_steamrep/ Mattie #1 - http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/2zvc8m/corrupt_steamrep/cpn0myf Mattie #2 - http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/2zvc8m/corrupt_steamrep/cpn14to My resposne - http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/2zvc8m/corrupt_steamrep/cppaoyw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lk Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I've been watching SR all those years I've been trading, with a disgust. Admins with completely no manners at all, they don't respect most of the users. Poorly investigated reports. They don't pay attention to minor reports. They are always whining about how they don't have much admins to take care of the site, so why the fuck not to hire some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Map Painter Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 We seriously need an alternative already, SR has turned out to be akin to communism - nice in theory, absolute crap in practice. The people at the top just don't seem to care anymore, and if the community got behind a serious alternative initiative, I could see them being replaced. Either way, SR in 2011 >>>>> SR now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 Guess Mattie can't wake up and realize essentially all traders is against Steamrep.. Once again, I replied - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♠Derpeh♤ Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 We seriously need an alternative already, SR has turned out to be akin to communism - nice in theory, absolute crap in practice. The people at the top just don't seem to care anymore, and if the community got behind a serious alternative initiative, I could see them being replaced. Either way, SR in 2011 >>>>> SR now. Steamrep in the past was pretty sucessful, reports ddnt take long to process and if mistakes were made appeals were accepted pretty fast, it wasnt until when processing reports took months and if there was a mistake made it would take months to get back to you where the obvious problem rose up. In the past it was actually a scammer database, if a user wasnt marked or had a report on them they were considered clean, now you have to look at reports on other communities, outpost, bp.tf...etc and then come to a final judgement especially since that large backlog meant that majority of scammers run loose. It wasnt until the more recent times where steamrep had begun to make blatantly glaring mistakes (deleting comments, admins doing questinoable things) where most people in tf2 began to legitimately hate steamrep and their high horse. I didnt believe that their admins would delete posts with evidence until a few of mine were deleted for "unwanted/unrelated posts", not sure how adding evidence to prove someone's innocence and highlighting inconsistency in a report is unwanted but whatever. The point is that until major communities remove themselves from steamrep, acknowledging that they cant do the job we will still be under steamrep's control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 Summary + links - Main Reddit thread - http://reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/3056km/steamrep_something_needs_to_be_done_about_how_bad/ Another thread made in /r/tf2 (long response from a SR staff member) - http://reddit.com/r/tf2trade/comments/30864w/psa_steamrep_something_needs_to_be_done_about_how/ Discuss thread (made by another user) in /r/Steam - http://reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/305n0q/steam_rep_is_corrupt/ Mattie's account - http://reddit.com/user/thorax My account - http://reddit.com/user/Md0/ Also several links regarding SR issue and things I brought up in this bp.tf thread. Feel free to read and judge! The community is pretty clear what they think about Steamrep and their recent actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poesjesvanger Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 well, steamrep is doing shit but backpack.tf is doing even more in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cave Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Why don't we just riot to steamrep and just not use it anymore? I'm sure a new site will come along which will NOT end up like SR. EDIT : The only reason why were using it is looking for tags... We can just make a generator which just does this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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