The Penguins Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 I play quite a lot on Pokemon Showdown in my spare time, so do my friends. It annoys me to no end how pathetic counters to Fairy types really are like Poison and Steel, really you couldn't have thought of anything better? Anyways, I need to know some counters to common Fairy types, I've come up with a Machamp with Iron Plates, Adamant, Bullet Punch, No Guard; but I realized that there's Gardevoir...so help?
Scott Bakula Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 While I am no competitive user, what comes to my mind after some thought is Crobat Adamant EVs in Attack and Speed Flying Gem Cross Poison Acrobatics Thief U-Turn
The Penguins Posted February 3, 2015 Author Posted February 3, 2015 While I am no competitive user, what comes to my mind after some thought is Crobat Adamant EVs in Attack and Speed Flying Gem Cross Poison Acrobatics Thief U-Turn Gonna try this , thanks!
Notecoiler Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Any sort of Sweeper can take care of a Fairy type I don't understand why all of you have such a hard time fighting Fairies.
The Penguins Posted February 3, 2015 Author Posted February 3, 2015 Any sort of Sweeper can take care of a Fairy type I don't understand why all of you have such a hard time fighting Fairies. Because my friend uses a super cheap Gardevoir (sorry Angel), which has Focus Blast or some counter to Steel. It also uses Psychic to counter Poison and has a ridiculous amount of EVs in both Sp. Def and Def. making in a hell hard to kill
Weedoof Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Any sort of Sweeper can take care of a Fairy type Blaziken Gyarados-M Salamence Lati@s Tyranitar Hydreigon Infernape Yveltal (if ubers are your thing) Etc, etc
Scott Bakula Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Because my friend uses a super cheap Gardevoir (sorry Angel), which has Focus Blast or some counter to Steel. It also uses Psychic to counter Poison and has a ridiculous amount of EVs in both Sp. Def and Def. making in a hell hard to kill Ah, if it's Gardevoir specifically, you're best off focusing on physical rather than special, as Gardevoirs Sp. Def is almost twice it's Def (more if Mega Evolved). If my Crobat concept didn't work, perhaps try this: Absol Adamant Super Luck EVs in Attack & Speed Razor Claw/Scope Lens Night Slash Shadow Claw Slash Psycho Cut (Possibly replace one move with Swords Dance if it can regularly survive a hit and one of the above isn't being used much) With that setup, every single attack is a guaranteed crit. Granted, it probably wouldn't do well against every fairy because of typing, but imagine the saltiness you'd get with a stream of unending crits.
♛ AlphaOmega ♛ Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 ....in my career of life, specifically pokemon, ive never, ever, EVER been this in depth. Ive considered weaknesses in one fight against the elite four. Not at any point before or after have i taken EV training or whatever to play pokemon. Glad to know even when i thought i was invincible, there is 100 million different ways to cream me.
Scott Bakula Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 ....in my career of life, specifically pokemon, ive never, ever, EVER been this in depth. Ive considered weaknesses in one fight against the elite four. Not at any point before or after have i taken EV training or whatever to play pokemon. And there's nothing really wrong with that, as non-optimized pokemon can still do well in a competitive fight. If they've got a nonstandard EV spread, Nature, or ability (i.e. Just caught a pokemon and raised them by fighting whatever), they can still fuck someone up in the head, as the pokemon can then survive a hit they or make a KO that they "weren't supposed to". Really, the most important things are team and move composition, making sure you've got a good variety of types and a good variety of moves that can tackle most situations.
♛ AlphaOmega ♛ Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 And there's nothing really wrong with that, as non-optimized pokemon can still do well in a competitive fight. If they've got a nonstandard EV spread, Nature, or ability (i.e. Just caught a pokemon and raised them by fighting whatever), they can still fuck someone up in the head, as the pokemon can then survive a hit they or make a KO that they "weren't supposed to". Really, the most important things are team and move composition, making sure you've got a good variety of types and a good variety of moves that can tackle most situations. Non-standard...Ev...uh. *braindead* *resorts to using generic move sets*
Jibril: Flugel Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Here let me help. Focus Blast does wreck most steels, yes, but there are a few ways around that. Gardevoir is countered by two things: First: Bullet Punch. Commonly used by Metagross and Scizor. These are common checks/counters to Gardevoir, since Bullet Punch always goes first. Another good check could be talonflame, since it also gets a priority move in brave bird. Alternatively, you can use a choice scarf user. This will outspeed Gardevoir and smash its face in with a physical move, preferably. The other alternative is walling it. Walls like eviolite Chansey, Sylveon, eviolite Porygon2, togekiss, etc. can outright make Gardevoir's attacks look like little fluffy pillows. Finally, there's sash gengar. Who'll get two hits in rather than one. Hope this helps.
Kuuko-San Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Gardevior is the shit. It's a shame that her mega-evolution looks so stupid. :c
Gent♥ Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Why would you use Absol, Absol is slower than M-gardevoir and fairy-weak If you wanna do the infinite crit thing, Sniper Scope Lens Focus Energy Kingdra is the way to be. Draco Meteor hitting for 2.25x damage BEFORE stab, AND ignoring the Sp.A drop.And offensive Crobat is just, no. Stop it, it hurts. Unlike Crobat. The best counter to special attacking fairies, bar none, is assault vest Metagross. Or, was, now M-Metagross is a thing. Jirachi is another good one That x4 resist they share is great. Bronzong therefore is in the same boat, as are Heatran and Delphox. The trouble arises with dual-type. Azumarill, now that ORAS tutor allow knock off and belly drum on the same set, means it 1 on 1 beats every pokemon I just listed. BUT, Tentacruel and Unaware Clefable both stop it flat. BASICALLY what I'm saying is countering ''fairy-types'' is a vast oversimplification. You need to think about the individual pokemon you'll be facing and go from there. And for reference, the most commonly seen fairy-types are Azumarill, Clefable, Sylveon, Gardevoir, Diancie, and some fringe ones like Klefki.
vetroza :3 Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 just get a strong n fast pokemon and ez kill full atk ev's
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