VIP PinkSaber Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 The prices of many rare noncraft hats are way to low. Backpack.tf was started to help people new to trading and stop sharking. however, the low prices of rare noncraft hats is helping the sharks. It is to easy to buy a rare noncraft hat for to too low backpack.tf price and resell for x3 x4 times the price. So few of thes hats are traded that there is never enough proof to get a vote passed. Please admin, look into this problem. some of these hats are 200-1000 in number and i can sell for 1-2 keys but they are listed for 1-3 ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP PinkSaber Posted June 1, 2013 Author Share Posted June 1, 2013 look at this link here...its outpost. (sighnin using your own method not through the link, im no fisher) http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10551070 and look at lambsheeps offer on my noncraft handymans handle. 4ref then a key. I said know and he ended up paying a key for another one. now look at the backpack.tf price for this hat. 1.66-2ref and i can get the price changed due to lack of proof. I will buy for more then that! but im the only one selling on outpost and these are the only one sold in weeks and the prices is way up! any help or examples would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@@@@@@ Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 you can provide proof & make a suggestion. go ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRyders Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 A rare uncraft is not easy to be found for low end bp.tf price. All sellers know its rare and put them only for offers or are swapping levels etc. But occasional 1 random seller enters the market and sells for bp.tf price. He is getting sharked. BP.tf price is stupid to use for such rare uncrafts and pricing is hard. Its people own fault imo, following a spreadsheet blindly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP PinkSaber Posted June 1, 2013 Author Share Posted June 1, 2013 A rare uncraft is not easy to be found for low end bp.tf price. All sellers know its rare and put them only for offers or are swapping levels etc. But occasional 1 random seller enters the market and sells for bp.tf price. He is getting sharked. BP.tf price is stupid to use for such rare uncrafts and pricing is hard. Its people own fault imo, following a spreadsheet blindly. This is well put. However, i feel backpack.tf should take steps to fix this problem. Many unusauals get priced with only one proof or sale. many of these hats are near the same level of rarness and should be treated the same. It is in the end a public awarness issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP PinkSaber Posted June 1, 2013 Author Share Posted June 1, 2013 A rare uncraft is not easy to be found for low end bp.tf price. All sellers know its rare and put them only for offers or are swapping levels etc. But occasional 1 random seller enters the market and sells for bp.tf price. He is getting sharked. BP.tf price is stupid to use for such rare uncrafts and pricing is hard. Its people own fault imo, following a spreadsheet blindly. Also you say "A rare uncraft is not easy to be found for low end bp.tf price." but more like they sell for x5times as much and nowhere even near the Backpack.tf price. People trust this site and we should try to earn that trust or we will be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP PinkSaber Posted June 1, 2013 Author Share Posted June 1, 2013 another example: i have this price suggestion of 2ref for a noncraft tiara... http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51aa0871ba25367714000026#51aa0871ba25367714000025_row I sold one for 1.66 and 2 for 2ref fast... thats about 50% of the market! 3 are for sale on outpost and they want 3ref or more or are in a set However! one person has it posted for backpack.tf price 1.33 and he is useing backpack.tf to price it! http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11347049 This shows that for this person...Backpack.tf is not helping him. we need to fix this. This guy will keep the price from changing and i will shark him and all thanks to backpack.tf. we gotta fix this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC22 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Then shark all you want. Unless the price changes it is not sharking If you find a problem w/ price, change it. not that hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP PinkSaber Posted June 1, 2013 Author Share Posted June 1, 2013 Then shark all you want. Unless the price changes it is not sharking If you find a problem w/ price, change it. not that hard I am trying to change the prices and need your support. pls vote noncraft hats up and understand that there will never be much proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slocumruls Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I love how this thread directly conflicts with this thread http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/1827-is-this-free-economy/ where another guy is bitching that people bought all the non-crafts and are "trying" to raise the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP PinkSaber Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 I love how this thread directly conflicts with this thread http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/1827-is-this-free-economy/ where another guy is bitching that people bought all the non-crafts and are "trying" to raise the price. if they have them all they set the price...right? sounds like he just doesnt like it but knows its the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slocumruls Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I have no personal opinion on the matter. I don't buy/sell or even look at non-crafts. Most likely the issue is that people used to hate non-craft hats but until recently didn't particularly realize that certain ones were rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP PinkSaber Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 I have no personal opinion on the matter. I don't buy/sell or even look at non-crafts. Most likely the issue is that people used to hate non-craft hats but until recently didn't particularly realize that certain ones were rare. you nailed it. just keep that in mind when you vote. more buyers then hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slocumruls Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 And I don't vote on them due to lack of personal knowledge unless the guy has provided an ass load of undeniable proof (or it's just a shit suggestion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP PinkSaber Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 And I don't vote on them due to lack of personal knowledge unless the guy has provided an ass load of undeniable proof (or it's just a shit suggestion). just keep in mind 2 examples is a lot of proof for these. look at this http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11420876 while the backpack.tf price is 1.33 its also the only one on the market right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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