Jaxstraww Posted July 11, 2014 Posted July 11, 2014 I did by this dude...... Quickselling this beast! Check out my outpost trade! http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20939033#latest He got beat up in this suggestion......can't trade this way. Unreal. http://backpack.tf/vote/id/53b707664cd7b806398b4601 I did a trade offer for a few keys less than his B/O. Declines it and then immediately ignores me? What happened to the negotiation. There are allot of guys like this actually. Put a hat up. You offer. They get pissed because its not a B/O and block you. Do you want to sell or not. I think allot of these fools are so noob to trading they go into extremes.
Ghost1237 Posted July 11, 2014 Posted July 11, 2014 He shouldn't have ignored you, but why should he accept your offer if it's not what he wants?
Baloo Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 I feel like that AF Salty sounds familiar Edit: found out why - http://i.imgur.com/jaqWGbt.png
Jaxstraww Posted July 12, 2014 Author Posted July 12, 2014 He didn't need to accept the offer. Wasn't implying that. You come in a little under a BO or offer what you think its worth and you normally work from there. One party says no the other counters and most times you come into an agreement. Depends how much the buyer wants the item and how much the seller is willing to let it go for. You don't make an offer. Get told no then ignore someone. Thats shit trading 101. I can see if I was busting his balls but it was a single offer. A no, then a ignore so that I can't even circle back higher.
Jaxstraww Posted July 12, 2014 Author Posted July 12, 2014 I feel like that AF Salty sounds familiar details?
Baloo Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 details? I updated my first post, it was just another forum member dealing with the same person: http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/statuses/user/4682-%C4%95%D0%BBig%D0%BC%D0%B4txt/?status_id=49727 Also you linked the wrong trade to begin with, I believe you wanted this one: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21049200
Jaxstraww Posted July 12, 2014 Author Posted July 12, 2014 Holy shit...That is him. He doesn't intend to sell that hat I'm thinking and is one argumentative dude.
LaughingLollipop Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 you can't expect to buy the hat unless you pay the bo. I've way way way too many people like you who always want a penny cheaper. Well.... if I take a penny off for every lowballer on outpost how much do I end up with?
Baloo Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 #ThrowbackFridays http://backpack.tf/vote/id/50c48b4aba25362b33000013
Toceus Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 > you can't expect to buy the hat unless you pay the bo. See, and some people think the economy is all dominated by quicksell buyers. This guy's a living example of counter-proof! He revealed to us all that apparently, we've been buying people's b/o's all along!
Jaxstraww Posted July 12, 2014 Author Posted July 12, 2014 you can't expect to buy the hat unless you pay the bo. I've way way way too many people like you who always want a penny cheaper. Well.... if I take a penny off for every lowballer on outpost how much do I end up with? Your joking correct? I offered 5 fewer keys than his BO. All because someone wants 4 pure for a hat doesn't mean its 4 pure..........Tell me your joking?
Dee_Jay007 ♥ Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Well, I don't think he is asking for offers. I'm sure he meant that the price is firm. But it would be better if he replied to you and tell you that the price is firm instead of completely ignoring.
LaughingLollipop Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Your joking correct? I offered 5 fewer keys than his BO. All because someone wants 4 pure for a hat doesn't mean its 4 pure..........Tell me your joking? I don't think you understand the concept of a price. Go into a grocery store, pick up a gallon of milk. Go to the register, offer them 50 cents less than the listed price. Report back with your results. Different people operate differently, even amongst their own trades. Sometimes I flex, sometimes I have a price. If I have a price, that is THE price.
Jaxstraww Posted July 12, 2014 Author Posted July 12, 2014 Actually you can barter in the grocery store. difference is that is real world and these are pixelated hats. If you didn't barter why trade? Outpost could just put a "buy now" option and call it a day. Your argument is nuts if saying a 5 key reduction off of almost 4 buds is enuff to rage like that. Also unlike most I paid for my 1st $3k BP with pure and this one is entirely pure as well. Most traders are trading hats for hats. 3/4 of the hats I have sellers had BO's and guess what...they didn't sell for pure and they take allot less.
LaughingLollipop Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Actually you can barter in the grocery store. difference is that is real world and these are pixelated hats. If you didn't barter why trade? Outpost could just put a "buy now" option and call it a day. Your argument is nuts if saying a 5 key reduction off of almost 4 buds is enuff to rage like that. Also unlike most I paid for my 1st $3k BP with pure and this one is entirely pure as well. Most traders are trading hats for hats. 3/4 of the hats I have sellers had BO's and guess what...they didn't sell for pure and they take allot less. 1. "can barter at a grocery store" > Not in this country. 2. "why trade?" > If my price is the lowest, it still sells just fine without barter. 3. "outpost should just put a buy it now button" > Thats the fucking point of a buyout. You just don't seem to understand that everyone's goal is not to feed YOU profit hand over foot. Don't get butthurt when someone denies your fucking lowball.
Budi Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 What I don't understand is why you're still complaining about this after your original vent post. There are millions of douchebags out there that just don't care, and its his item, if he doesn't want to move off the price he doesn't have to. I've had even worse just today ALONE. Somebody posted 4 clean buds for 18 keys today and I added to buy at that price no less, and I got ignored adding him for all 4. Shit happens, people are stupid, life goes on.
Darklunerninja Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 When I have a B/O, that is the lowest I will sell it for. If someone offers a few keys less I politely tell them no thanks. When they persist I tell them to fuck off. Respect people's B/Os and you won't have a problem. They have enough problems with people not reading the notes for their trades and adding them to lowball.
Jaxstraww Posted July 12, 2014 Author Posted July 12, 2014 1. "can barter at a grocery store" > Not in this country. 2. "why trade?" > If my price is the lowest, it still sells just fine without barter. 3. "outpost should just put a buy it now button" > Thats the fucking point of a buyout. You just don't seem to understand that everyone's goal is not to feed YOU profit hand over foot. Don't get butthurt when someone denies your fucking lowball. 5 keys off of almost 4 buds in pure is a lowball? Yeah...you got me. You are one internet raging dude. I mean frankly your going bat shit mate. Take a breather or just ignore this thread. No one is making you post........or read this. @kiki...who the fuck is complaining. I'll live. Also, I intended to back into his BO anyway but the ignore happened.
Jaxstraww Posted July 12, 2014 Author Posted July 12, 2014 When I have a B/O, that is the lowest I will sell it for. If someone offers a few keys less I politely tell them no thanks. When they persist I tell them to fuck off. Respect people's B/Os and you won't have a problem. They have enough problems with people not reading the notes for their trades and adding them to lowball. This is a nightmare of posts. Respect the BO's? Holy shit, no trading would get done. I seen mid tier shit being asked for 5-6 to let it go at 2.5-3 because they have no idea what they are talking about. I think the rage is a saturation point with unusuals. I mean there are 1000's of them and players just don't need more hats like thye did 5 years ago. Now everyone who bought in is freaking the fuk out because of small profits and getting knocked around. Again, if you buy in pure your not in the same grouping as F2P dudes just flipping pixels over and over. Real cash is king....And when pure is being used your notes don't mean jack shit, honestly.
Administrators OverduePixels Posted July 12, 2014 Administrators Posted July 12, 2014 Don't get butthurt when someone denies your fucking lowball. I highly suggest you to learn the definition of lowball sir. 5 keys off of buyout is nowhere near lowball.
Jaxstraww Posted July 12, 2014 Author Posted July 12, 2014 I highly suggest you to learn the definition of lowball sir. 5 keys off of buyout is nowhere near lowball. Don't bother. Look at his BP. There are players that play and buy nice dress up shit. Then there are players with a million chem sets and a scrapbanking BP. Lollipop is one of those players that plays to profit. I rarley sell shit to turn anything. I buy mostly but he calls me a greedy fuk to not be fed hand over foot but I have the pack of single items I use to play dress up ingame. Lastly for those reading this train wreck. I simply offered 5 keys off of a 4 pure (or so) BO. Conversation was a no followed by an ignore. No opportunity to confirm that I would pay the BO. That is the crutch of the thread. I wasn't buying the hat to resell. I like Salties and in fact have my current solly hat on trade for a Salty. unsure where me being greedy is coming into this. Being as close as I was to the BO the normal reply would have been thanks for the offer but I'm firm and you need to add back in 5. Ignoring brings into question if he even wants to sell the thing. In fact, the link earlier in the thread a player offered what is now his BO and its still not sold.
Administrators OverduePixels Posted July 12, 2014 Administrators Posted July 12, 2014 Don't bother. Look at his BP. There are players that play and buy nice dress up shit. Then there are players with a million chem sets and a scrapbanking BP. Lollipop is one of those players that plays to profit. I rarley sell shit to turn anything. I buy mostly but he calls me a greedy fuk to not be fed hand over foot but I have the pack of single items I use to play dress up ingame. Lastly for those reading this train wreck. I simply offered 5 keys off of a 4 pure (or so) BO. Conversation was a no followed by an ignore. No opportunity to confirm that I would pay the BO. That is the crutch of the thread. I wasn't buying the hat to resell. I like Salties and in fact have my current solly hat on trade for a Salty. unsure where me being greedy is coming into this. Being as close as I was to the BO the normal reply would have been thanks for the offer but I'm firm and you need to add back in 5. Ignoring brings into question if he even wants to sell the thing. In fact, the link earlier in the thread a player offered what is now his BO and its still not sold. You really need to calm down. It seems like you get offended easily and have anger issues, no offense. Yes, I completely agree that he is 100% wrong to call you a lowballer because a lowballer would be someone who offers something like this : ~ Have buyout at 30 keys ~ Lowballer comes and offers you 10 - 15 keys That is lowballing. What isn't lowballing? ~ Have buyout at 30 keys ~ Someone comes and offers you 25 keys is not lowballing. There is no need to get all worked up by LaughingLollipos comment.
Jaxstraww Posted July 12, 2014 Author Posted July 12, 2014 I must be using exclamation points in my posts........not worked up at all mate. Some of these replies are head scratchers though.
Darklunerninja Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 This is a nightmare of posts. Respect the BO's? Holy shit, no trading would get done. I seen mid tier shit being asked for 5-6 to let it go at 2.5-3 because they have no idea what they are talking about. I think the rage is a saturation point with unusuals. I mean there are 1000's of them and players just don't need more hats like thye did 5 years ago. Now everyone who bought in is freaking the fuk out because of small profits and getting knocked around. Again, if you buy in pure your not in the same grouping as F2P dudes just flipping pixels over and over. Real cash is king....And when pure is being used your notes don't mean jack shit, honestly. I said respect it, not pay it. If they are asking way too much then let them sit there. If they want to lower their price then they will. Just don't harass people when they have a set price. If they budge than good for you, if not then let it be. What you offered was no where near a lowball, but I do understand where the other guy is coming from, I hate when people add me to offer what I don't want time and time again.
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