Paint value on items

[Asian Ginger]

Hey, i feel that paint is not always valued correctly on an item.

 

On a Bill's, black paint easily raises the value by about 2 keys, but some guy painted his ellis cap black and tried to sell it for the price of the paint. I think paint should raise the value of an item not only depending on the paint, but also on how good the item is. It is logical to paint a Bill's black but an black ellis cap is sort of a waste.

 

I know it would be really complicated to make recommended prices like this on bazaar, but what do you guys think?

[The Killjoy]

The formula already takes this into account, only going to double the hat's price to calculate the bonus (so a White painted craft hat, for instance, has a bonus of 1.33 to a full price of 2.66)

[@@@@@@]

IT really depends on what people will pay. bills is a popular hat, but black is still pretty hard to sell for 10 keys (most sellers still try for 10)

 

a regular crappy ol craft hat will not fetch 2 keys simply because it is not wanted

[AwesomeMcCoolName]

There is a big problem with the current system....

 

Black Paint is 7.55-9.44 (8.5 Average).....

 

A Ballcap (priced at 1.33-1.66) is a pretty desired hat, so paint will hold its value pretty well, meaning that you should be able to get 50% of the paints value in addition to the hat (making a black ballcaps price: 5.75 Refined, But the current system lists it at a mere 3 Refined....)

 

In General most hats can get 50% of high tier paint prices back, and a 30%~ for lower tier paints (<1 ref), So, i feel that taking 50% of a paints value and addining it to a hats value would be more accurate. (Granted, craft hats will never retain their paint value, but hats that people actually want will--And there are some cheap hats that people actually want). 

 

TL;DR Any hat listed between 1.66-3 Refined won't get a large enough add-on from the paint (black/white) even though it wouldn't be too difficult to get 50% of paint value...

[Jymotion]

The current algorithm for reference: http://backpack.tf/faq#q5

[☣Long218☢]

I think white paint/black paint on 1.33 hat make too little of a bonus. I mean if you go to the market those painted hats can reach more than 1 key easily

[Brad Pitt]

So, what do you think if the hat value could be tripled instead of doubled?

 

So your 1.33 hat could be maximum 4 ref if it was black/white.

[Woifi The Viking]

I would say no limit and 50% of the paint value.

[AwesomeMcCoolName]

I would say no limit and 50% of the paint value.

+1

[Rhys13th]

IT really depends on what people will pay. bills is a popular hat, but black is still pretty hard to sell for 10 keys (most sellers still try for 10)

 

a regular crappy ol craft hat will not fetch 2 keys simply because it is not wanted

 

Strongly disagree. A Black Bill's is an easy sell for 10 keys. (Maybe not easy, easy, given the value, but it takes less than 4 hours posted to get offers and a B/O paid of 10 keys) The main concern I have is rather the White Bill's, since many people still count it as 9.5 keys (I bought mine for 8 keys + 3 ref), even though the paint value alone would make it over 10 keys (using backpack.tf's algorithm.)

[☣Long218☢]

Strongly disagree. A Black Bill's is an easy sell for 10 keys. (Maybe not easy, easy, given the value, but it takes less than 4 hours posted to get offers and a B/O paid of 10 keys) The main concern I have is rather the White Bill's, since many people still count it as 9.5 keys (I bought mine for 8 keys + 3 ref), even though the paint value alone would make it over 10 keys (using backpack.tf's algorithm.)

. I sell both black and white bill before. Take days to sell white bill at 9 keys 2 ref. my black bill still not sell yet after 5 days+

[AwesomeMcCoolName]

Well a black/white bill should b 9 keys with 50% of paint. (but sincr bills are a currency there painted variants are also a currency, so a bit more than 50% is possible.

[Rhys13th]

. I sell both black and white bill before. Take days to sell white bill at 9 keys 2 ref. my black bill still not sell yet after 5 days+

 

Well, how much are you selling the Black Bill's for? If it's keys pure, I could buy it. As for White Bill's, I've sold like 3 of em over the past 3 days or so for 10 keys (2 of em in items), and a friend of mine, BQE, sells em for 9 keys + 2.33, and buys em for 9 keys. He shifts 1-2 a day.

[☣Long218☢]

Well, how much are you selling the Black Bill's for? If it's keys pure, I could buy it. As for White Bill's, I've sold like 3 of em over the past 3 days or so for 10 keys (2 of em in items), and a friend of mine, BQE, sells em for 9 keys + 2.33, and buys em for 9 keys. He shifts 1-2 a day.

selling my black bill for 9 keys 2 ref

[Rhys13th]

I'll buy it. Add me on Steam, please.

 

EDIT: For whatever reason, seems my Steam account isn't linked to this one. I'm Rhys13th on Steam too.