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I am trading Unusuals for a lot of time now and I personally hate Unusual Trading Servers, so I just created this guide, since I saw that most of the guides are outdated, it's my first and I am ready to edit it for improvements. (I hope it's not useless ;-;) Here I listed most of the websites I use, while trading and even some examples of profit. Hope it helps someone. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1528442227

So i've been looking to start a bot to win some money. Can someone tell me how can I do it?

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heyo tf2 players/traders i got hacked and need to get my unusual back from this account https://steamcommunity.com/id/12352342354 if you can help please do

Okay so I am fairly new to trading and one day I decided to try and open a crate to possibly make a profit. I open up a holiday case and get a festiviser. I then did my research on it and found that it could make me a heafty key profit. So I use it on a strange scattergun I got also from Backpack.TF only to be greeted with a miniscule amount of refined metal. In other words: Backpack.TF made me loss a profit because apparently they're too lazy to actually show the difference between two versions of a festive weapon. So I lost a key and more just because Bacpack.TF sucks at giving all the details. To anyone who works at Backpack.TF I ask you to please fix this and also to possibly give me a key back so I can regain some lost profit.

Before I start there are few things I wanna say and be clear about. 1. I love helping everyone and so this was a guide (a shorter version) I made for my friends from the TF2 community in my region on my discord server, The screenshots shown in this guide is like a few months old from when I made this guide so I did not bother to strike off the names as those trade won't be existing now. 2. Everything that I have said below is a collection of data I gathered online and from my own experience in trading. (not everything are my own words but I strongly agree with everything said below) 3. There are many other guides out there for trading you are free to follow/check that as well. By no means this is a perfect guide or the best one out there. 4. There will be very basic things mentioned here which most of you may already know but that is for the people who are very new to trading. What is TRADING on steam? Trading is a system that lets people exchange items with other people. This system allows players to swap weapons, cosmetics, tools and more with other players within Steam itself On August 9, 2011, the trade beta updates were added to the public Steam client and on September 6, 2011. With Steam trading, people were able to trade their in-game items for other in-game items with other people. Team Fortress 2 Trading Item trading is the backbone of the economy in Team Fortress 2. Weapons, hats, and metal are all traded frequently and have their own individual values. 1. Weapons and hats will be given to the player via the drop system, 2. Items can also be obtained via the crafting system. There are specific recipes for almost every item which can be found in the in-game crafting section Currency Since you can't directly trade money to other players Metal is the most basic currency in Team Fortress 2. Keys which can only be obtained by either buying them from the store or trading metal for it Earbuds are next which can be obtained by trading keys and metal These 3 items are the basic currency used in TF2 for trading There are many keys in TF2 but Mann Co. Supply Crate Key is the currency key keep this in mind. Types of Metal There are mainly 3 types of metal in Team Fortress 2 Scrap Metal, Is obtained by Smelting two class weapons together (Can be done In-game) Reclaimed Metal, Is obtained by Smelting three scrap metals together (Can be done In-game) Refined Metal, Is obtained by Smelting three reclaimed metal (can be done In-game) 1 Refined Metal = 9 Scrap Metal or 1 Refined Metal = 3 Reclaimed Metal 1 Reclaimed Metal = 3 Scrap Metal 1 Reclaimed Metal in mathematical terms - 0.33 1 Scrap Metal in mathematical terms - 0.11 0.99 is counted as 1 in TF2 ITEM QUALITIES Quality is a property of items, which is represented in-game by the color of the item's name and (in most cases) by a title prefixed to the item's name. An item can have only one quality, which is determined when the item is created and remains unchanged There are 12 different qualities of items in TF2, But only 8 of them are more common and traded most. Normal · Unique · Vintage · Genuine · Strange · Collector's · Decorated · Unusual · Haunted · Community · Self-Made · Valve From the list above Unique · Vintage · Genuine · Strange · Collector's · Decorated · Unusual and Haunted are the most commonly traded items Shortlisting this, even more, it will be Unique Strange and Unusual The highest traded items Unique quality is the item quality assigned to items which can be found through random drops during gameplay Vintage is an item quality used most commonly to designate previously Unique items obtained prior to the Mann-Co Update, where it was introduced. Genuine item quality was originally introduced alongside the RIFT promotion as a way to allow items obtained through participation in a cross-game promotion or an in-game event to be distinguished from the same items gained via other methods - such as through the random drops or via crafting. Strange quality is an item quality available for weapons and cosmetics that track the stats (kills and points) of that item. Haunted is an item quality designated for Halloween-themed items. Many, but not all, Halloween items have a Haunted version. Collector's is an item quality that is given to items obtained by completing special Chemistry Sets Decorated is an item quality assigned to weapons with special grade factors, varying levels of exterior wear, and possibly a Strange counter and/or Unusual effect. Unusual quality is an item quality used on cosmetic items, taunts, and weapons. Unusual items have special attached particle effects. How To Start Trading It's actually hard to start with nothing at all, so its best to have a very small investment to start with. I would recommend 2 keys (which is what I started with) This is a section about slow profit that you don’t need much metal to do, making it perfect for new traders getting started and learning the basics of TF2 trading. This section is nothing I would recommend doing a long time just because it’s just so slow profit. It's just to kick off your trading with very low investment 5 Things you need to check/have before you start Get TF2 premium Get the Steam app (for trade confirmation) - much better and safer than email confirmations Activate Steam guard Set your profile to public Have your Trade offer URL As mentioned earlier its best to have some kind of investment when you start trading for the first time, so buy 2 keys and convert 1 key into metal (refined, reclaimed and scrap) and save your other key. How do I do that? Just go here - https://scrap.tf/keys and sell 1 key. There’s like thousands of different ways to trade and make a profit, and I will show you a few ways to help you get started. I’ll be talking about a few basic methods of trading. [ This is what I started doing when I started Trading long ago ] Buy and Sell Popular Items How do I know which are popular items? Taunts, Tools, and craft hats. These Items sell a lot everyday and its good profit Tools include items like Backpack Expanders, Name tags, Tour of Duty Ticket etc (basically consumable items of small value) Taunts are also a good start for new Traders with a limited budget. Buy and sell these items for a small profit. Go for items and aim to buy & sell a lot of items to get your profit going, don’t try and buy ridiculously low or sell to high, then you’ll never get to buy/sell any items. Banking these items can be hard with all the competition from other traders, especially traders using bots. If you want to grab a trading bot of your own there’s actually free option available, trade.tf they have bots available for free. (To know more about these bots DM me) or just buy a bot.tf bot. - Look for people that are selling a bunch of cosmetics/taunts/tools on TF2outpost, make an offer for all their items at a discount, don’t go crazy and offer way below what they're asking for, instead aim for a small profit when buying in bulk, make it worth it for both parties. - Look for people that are selling items at discount on backpcak.tf Here is an example of an Item. You can see those guys are selling it for much less than bots (Yes he is offline but if you can get the item from them you can make a profit of 1-4 scrap or by selling it) either to the bots that are buying it or by listing it for sale NOTE: In backpack.tf Every item You see on the left side with Green arrow is SELL ORDER Every Item You see on the right side with Blue arrow is BUY ORDER In the above-shown example, you can see that bots are buying this item for 2.88 refined and there are people selling it for 2.55 onwards Just mentioning this because I have seen a lot of people getting confused with this. This is another example or way to make easy profit. Some bots will be having outdated prices (The owners may be just too lazy to update it? idk but this happens a lot). As u see in the screenshot every bot is selling this item for 4.33 ref and buying it for 4.11 ref but one bot has a buy order at 5.33 ref. Just buy from the selling bot and sell it to the buying bot for easy profit. (This is kind of cheeky but hey it's not something rule-breaking as they there is a legit buy order which has an old outdated price.) Keep in mind bots might have stock limit set (so reload the page after a trade and check if the bot is still buying that item. Trade.tf has a feature which scans all the big trading sites for good deals, this can be a great place to find a few items you can make a profit on. In order to use the service you need to have their premium membership, it’s free and all you have to do is to add “trade.tf” into your Steam name. If the site says an item is on sale for like 60% off, it’s probably too good to be true, the service isn’t flawlessly and you always need to double check everything before making a deal. It also has a bot that can help you with trading which is also free for premium members. Do check it out, and if you are confused or have any questions please DM me When you have made a decent profit from trading craft hats taunts and tools its time to step things up a bit and find better deals and items that give more profit. These items need more investment or will cost more than these small items so make sure to at least have 5 keys and some refined when you start doing this. Items Include - Unique Killstreak items, Strange Killstreak Items, Vintage items, Genuine items, Strange Cosmetics etc As you trade more and more you will get an idea how this works and how to get more profit from which items from your own experience. Once you have about 10-15 keys then you can start with Unusual Trading (although 8 keys are enough to start unusual trading its best to have some extra keys as backup) Unusual Trading This section is purely based on my personal experience in Unusual Trading. I am not that good of an unusual trader and there are people who are 100x better than me also there are many other guides out there for unusual trading you are free to follow/check that as well. This guide is for people that want to get started with unusual trading or for any trader that want to learn new ways of making a profit with unusual's. When it comes to unusual trading you need to know all the unusual effects in the game and its value, and in this section, I’ll show you how you can do unusual trading with just a basic knowledge of the TF2 economy. I’ll try to cover everything you need to know to get started with unusual trading but that being said this is by no means a perfect unusual trading guide which I have already said above To start with unusual trading you’ll need around 8-15 keys, the more the better of course but that’s the minimum (The more the better) The second thing you need to know is that you have to be familiar with all the unusual effects in the game. There are currently 105 unusual effects in the game and you can see all these effects here in the link below. https://backpack.tf/effects Here you’ll find all the effects listed in order of the effect’s average price for hats with the effect in question. Effects with a high average are seen as good looking (in-game) and exclusive, generally speaking. This doesn’t mean an effect is more popular/easier to sell because it has a higher price, a higher price unusual effect can be harder to sell because people don’t have/don’t want to spend that kind of money on a hat. Meaning the higher the value of a hat the lesser chance you have to get pure (Its not impossible to get pure for very high-value items but the chances are less as only collectors or people who buy the hat to use would pay the full price in pure) A cheaper unusual effect can be more in demand just because it’s more affordable. When it comes to the question, what effects should you buy? I don’t have a good answer for you, any effect could be a good investment for the right price. But I will recommend do not buy effects like Bubbling, Dead Presidents, Massed Flies, Nuts n Bolts, Overclocked, Memory Leak, Confetti, Codex (I would also include power surge and Electrostatic here but that depends on the hats) and I would also recommend against Unusual Taunts as all of the taunts started dropping in price like rocks Why? Because These effects that have a tiny visual impact in the game, Meaning from a distance you can barely see those effects and they can almost look like regular hats in-game - From my personal experience, these effects are disliked the most and hardest to sell. But if you do happen to find good deals on this effect feel free to go for it. How to know the Value of an Unusual For checking out an unusual’s price your best bet is to head over to Backpack.tf and check what the suggested value is, either head over to the inventory of the user having the hat/taunt on Backpack.tf and find your unusual there, "click on it" then choose stats and you’ll come to unusual's stats page where you can see the price and other stats about your unusual. You can also use the search on Backpack.tf to find the value of a hat. Sometimes a 15 key unusual might have a seller 12 keys so its best not to pay more than 12 for the hat because you cannot sell it for more than 12 as there is already a seller. (just an example) Sometimes an unusual priced at 15 keys might have an Open price suggestion at 12 keys. Do not blindly trust it, open it and check the given proof and see if its valid (IF the given proof on the suggestion is valid then there is a high chance for it to get accepted and drop in price) -- If the price suggestion is relatively new you can check it out and see what past sales have gone for. Both suggestions that are approved and not approved can be worth checking out to know about past sales on that hat. You’ll find the price suggestions at the bottom of an unusual’s stats page. -- Check the Marketplace.tf price and find out if it’s been sold for cash recently. -- What’s the price on the Steam market -- Compare the price with other unusual's that have the same effect or the same hat but with other effects. Preferably one with a more up to date price suggestion. -- Search for the hat on TF2Outpost and see if there are any sellers there. Duplicated Unusual What are Duplicated or Duped Unusuals? Long before valve Implemented Steam Guard Auth, a lot of Trade Scams used to happen. Which was the main reason why valve introduced Steam guard. So basically when you click on accept trade in the trade window on steam The trade used to happen there was no secure confirmations. When solid proof for the scam was submitted valve used to give back the item that got scammed to the victim with "The Same Item ID". These items are the duplicate/duped items. They look the same in-game they do not have any special or different attributes from the Stolen/Scammed item. The only problem with these duplicated items is that they will have less resale value. How to know if an Unusual is Duplicate/Duped? Go to the inventory of the seller on backpack.tf and locate the unusual, click it and then choose History. Here on this page, you’ll see most of the past owners of this unusual and if the hat is duplicated you’ll see a small text in blue that says Duplicated in the right top corner. Checking the history before buying any unusual is also a good thing, this lets you see if there are any banned users mostly scammers (They will have their name in red and crossed over) in the recent history. -- If an Item has many scammer names on the item History then its most likely the value of the item will be low, Meaning most people wouldn't wanna have a hat that was owned by a lot of scammers in the past. Example of a Duplicated Unusual Example of a Clean Unusual You can see in the top right of the item history it will be written Duplicated. Always make sure to check this before buying an unusual Places to find good unusual Deals Backpack.tf and TF2Outpost, they’re by far the most active places for TF2 unusual trading. And if you feel like you need additional options you can check out the rest of the sites on the list later. Backpack.tf is great for finding unusual's or selling your own hats. Each unusual has its own page where you can find buyers and sellers for it, and also it’s price suggestion and any past price suggestion, and other basic info about the hat. If you have Backpack.tf premium you can search for deals on cheap unusual's and sort the results after the % discount the deal has It’s nothing I would recommend new traders though, considering it cost keys each month for premium. Scrap.tf's Unusual bot is a trading bot that buys and sells unusual's, if you’re going to sell your hat to the bot you should expect to lose profit doing so, the bot’s rates are not in favour of sellers, instead it can be a good place to get rid of your unusual's if you see no other option and you can’t get a hat sold. The potential for a good deal is much better when it comes to buying hats from the bot, it requires a lot of price checking and luck though. Scrap.tf Auctions is another section on Scrap.tf, where people put their items up for auction and people, can bid with their items to win the auction, it’s pretty straightforward and there’s plenty of unusual's being posted here. If you have the patience and dedication browsing through all the over-priced auction it can be worth it, but the good deals are quite rare in my experience. Unusual Trading servers Open the game Find the server browser and you can find the following. Skial trading servers https://www.skial.com/servers/ Note: Skial has a lot of servers find the trading ones and join Vatican City Unusual trade server http://www.the-vaticancity.com/ Neon Heights trade servers http://www.neonheightsservers.com/ Fire Powered Unusual trade servers https://firepoweredgaming.com/forums/page/servers These 4 are the best unusual trade servers in the game with Vatican City being the best of them all (My personal favorite) Here, on these servers, you can find a lot of people looking to buy and sell unusual's Quick Sells and how to find them What are quick sells? Quick selling is basically selling an item at 60-70% of the item's actual value or lower. Some people will quick sell their items/unusual for Pure, These are the kind of deals you should mostly be looking for to make profit Go to Backpack.tf and their classifieds section where all the items that are being sold on the site is listed. You’ll find that section of the site by hovering over the Trading tab in the top menu then clicking the Classifieds listings. Then you want to click on deals (only if you have premium if not ignore the deals) and sort the search result so that only Unusuals show up in your search, click on the “…” near the magnifying glass in the search, then choose “Unusual” under the Quality tab, the search will be sorted by cheapest first by default, leave it like that. (or just use this link to get a Classifieds search for unusual's) What we’re going to get is a search filled with listings on Unusuals being sold on the site, you’ll see plenty of hats being sold at a few keys discount, just be sure that you check the price of the unusual before buying it, as we talked about previously in the guide, not all Backpack.tf price suggestions are accurate so you always need to check to see if it’s an accurate price. Keep browsing the listings until you find a good deal in your price range worth investing in. A lot of sellers that are quick selling (selling their unusual at a discount) are looking to get TF2 keys as payment (often mentioned as “pure”) Another way to get quick sells is to make buy orders for unusual's on backpack.tf at cheap quick sell prices and you will get offers from people who are looking to quicksell, The same can be one on TF2 outpost also making an advertisement on Outpost about Buying Quicksell. Again the same can be done on Trade servers. Join an Unusual trade server and start advertising you are buying quick sells for pure on chat or voice. (But please do not spam) These are not the only ways to find quick sells there are many other ways but these are the specific ones I used and as I said at the start this guide is based on my personal experience from trading and I was successful. Selling the unusual's you buy This list can be good to go over if you find yourself stuck with an item that you just can’t sell, I’m usually pretty patient but after having my sell listings up for a long time and not getting it sold it’s can be a good time to try some different to get the item sold. Selling for pure can be difficult to do with some items, if the hat you’re trying to sell isn’t in demand most traders would want a discount on the hat when paying in pure. Simply lowering your price could help getting your hat sold for keys. Selling your unusual's for other unusual's - Head over to Backpack.tf and TF2Outpost and start looking for unusual's that are for sale that you would want to trade your unusual for, be prepared to overpay with your offer though, or you can try and add some keys to make your deal more appealing. (also known as a mixed offer). - If you get unusual offers on your hat make sure to check if that offered hat is clean 1st and then its value if you feel its profit (after checking hat effect price everything) go for it. Else add the trader and negotiate a deal with him. - You can also try and trade your unusual for CSGO items, this requires some basic knowledge of both the TF2 & CSGO market though and I would say based on my experience you’ll have an easier time trading your CSGO items for TF2 items than the other way around. The CSGO economy is much bigger and a lot of the CSGO skins are quite stable, making the, CSGO economy much more appealing for some traders. Some Tips from me. I’ll explain how I make profit trading with unusual's, I’ll try and be as transparent as possible so that you can easily get a hang of it. This is by no means the only way to trade with unusual's, it’s just how I like to do it. Trade with low tier unusual's to start with, there are cheap unusual's in the game that are not the most desirable hats in the game but there’s always a pretty good demand for these unusual's. Instead of buying & selling one expensive unusual I rather trade with 10 cheap unusual's, the profit per trade will most likely be much less but the risk that my hats will lose value or that I’m going to make a bad trade is not that likely. Another benefit of dealing with cheap unusual's is that I don’t need to have a knowledge about all the different effects and prices in the TF2 economy, I know how much keys I paid an unusual for and how much I want to sell it for, it’s a very straight-forward way of trading. Do not deal with Unpriced hats if you are not sure. Just ignore it and move on. Unless you have fairly good knowledge about Unusual trading and all the effects its best you stay away from unpriced hats I always buy hats under the backpack.tf value and I sell them for a relatively low profit, again lower than backpack.tf price. That’s the basic idea of it all, Buy quick sells and quick sell it, For example, a 15 key unusual I might try to get it for 10 or 11 and then sell it for 12 or 13 I use Backpack.tf and TF2Outpost to find people to trade with, I start off by making classifieds listings asking to buy unusual's on these two sites, I usually wait for sellers to come to me with their deals, but you’ll get a better result if you’re actively looking for sellers/good deals and send them your offers From time to time I get a hat that I can’t sell, I have no problem sitting on a hat for a long time but after a couple of weeks I usually would want to sell it and get rid of it, I have a few options then, I either just lower the asking price a bit and try to undercut the other sellers for my hat. I can also head over to Marketplace.tf and sell it for cash, I usually list it with a slight discount just to get it sold faster. My last option is that I sell it on the Steam market, these prices are surprisingly high on the market, the downsides is that 15% sales fee that eats up a lot of profit, these two option usually requires plenty of patience before I get them sold. Best Trading Website Backpack.tf I don't think I need to explain anything about this site now do I? https://backpack.tf/ TF2 Outpost Just like backacpk.tf This website is one of the bigger and more active places for TF2 trading, here you can make listings for buying or selling TF2 items or browse other people’s listings to find yourself a deal. The site doesn’t just support TF2 items, you can make listings for all Steam items. http://www.tf2outpost.com/ Trade.tf This site has Good deals page where the site scans the major trading sites for good deals. But there’s also a part of the site that’s called the Trading market, here people can use the sites inbuilt trading bot feature to make trades for them. The bot is free to use for anyone, you just tell the bot what items you want to sell and for how much, then the bot will do the trading for you. http://www.trade.tf/ Bazaar.tf This is a similar trading site like TF2outpost where you can list your items for sale and find others listings. The site isn’t as popular or active but the site has a bunch of nice features making it worth checking out nonetheless, for example you can get your own trading bot on the site for some sweet automated trading. And it’s very easy to navigate through listings and deals. http://bazaar.tf/ Scrap.tf To put it simple scrap.tf is an automated banking site that changes the way you trade This is an automated trading website that helps everyone in Team Fortress 2 get items they want fast and easy. https://scrap.tf/ STN STNtrading is a similar site to Scrap.tf where you can trade with the sites bots to fast and easy sell or buy items. It’s not as big as it’s competitor but the prices that they pay for your items is usually better than on Scrap.tf. Keep in mind that if you would instead sell/buy your items with another trader instead of these two banking sites you’d most likely get a better deal, but using these sites is fast and convenient. https://stntrading.eu/ Spirit.tf This is a TF2 Trading website which is also automated like scrap.tf but works in a different way. https://spirit.tf/ Mannco Trade Developed by one of TF2's Richest Trader SexySparta mannco.trade is a user friendly website that has the same design as that of the popular cs go trading website cs.money https://mannco.trade/ Sfuminator.tf This is is one of the best sites to buy and sell craft hats (my personal favorite for craft hats) http://sfuminator.tf/ Ocu.tf This is a very old website basically you sell your items for their items simple and easy (UI is a bit weird and slow) https://ocu.tf/ TF2 Warehouse Another Trading website for tf2 (not much popular now) feel free to check it out https://www.tf2wh.com/ TF2mart One of my personal favorite tf2 trading website after backpcak.tf. This website was developed by a Russian guy. The currency / trading in the website is a bit tricky to understand. If you do check it out and did not understand Do text me and I will help you http://tf2mart.net/ Dispenser.tf This is a great website to buy / sell steam games for TF2 keys https://dispenser.tf/ Vault.tf The best place to buy and sell Weapon KITS and Fabricators. http://vault.tf/ r/tf2trade This is the subreddit that’s all about trading TF2 items, here you can list your items or reply and make offers on other peoples trades. Mostly unusual trades are going on in this subreddit but you can make listings for any kind of TF2 trade, just make sure you read the rules before posting, so you format your post correctly and stuff like that, you know how picky Reddit can be about those things. https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2trade/ Safe and Trusted TF 2 Cashing out websites Marketplace.tf Always the best (run by the same owners as that of bacpack.tf and scrap.tf) https://marketplace.tf/ OP SKINS Most Scammers use OP skins bot to do the scams but This is actually a good site to cashout https://opskins.com/ Bitskins https://bitskins.com/ Steamwhiz Not much popular for TF2 items mostly used for cs go but supports TF2 as well https://steamwhiz.com/ Skins.Cash https://skins.cash/ Discord and other useful Links. backpack.tf https://discord.gg/j7cMkGF scrap.tf https://discord.gg/PEXZzZ4 STN https://discord.gg//qXTbt53 marketplace.tf https://discord.gg/kr8MU2C TF2 Outpost https://discord.gg/fhrtkvn Calculator.tf A website used to convert the Key value to ref and vise versa - If you are confused with a decimal key value (1.56 keys for example) just use this website :wink: https://calculator.tf/ Bot.tf Looking for a trading bot? Bot.tf provides professionally made TF2 trading bots for an affordable price for everyone. Ordering a bot is done in a few clicks and you can manage your bot very easily through our robust control panel. This means that you can start your own trading bot without any knowledge of programming! https://bot.tf/ discord - https://discord.gg/nZUUk8U Types of Scams and Scammers In Simple Terms Scamming means Tricking or Fooling someone into stealing their valued items and running with it. There are many different types of scams in TF2. Some you heard of, some you may have fell for, and some you never thought existed. Don't worry! By the end of this section, you will know most (if not all) of the scams in TF2 and how to avoid them 1. Trusted Friend / Middleman Scam A classic scam, that almost everyone knows nowadays. The scammer and his victim both agree on a trade, usually including steam wallet codes or something similar. To make sure everyone gets what he was promised, the scammer suggests taking a middleman or asks his victim to choose a trusted friend as a middleman. One other reason for using a middleman will be - The scammer will say the item is duped and glitched and wants to check if the item after being traded will be seen in the second inventory. The following scenarios could occur The scammer chooses a friend as a middleman. He has a legit looking profile but is teaming up with the scammer The scammer suggests a popular, well known and legit middleman. His friend or 2nd account will try impersonating this middleman [They can also say we can use a Steam or Valve admin as a middleman] After the victim chooses a middleman, the friend or 2nd account of the scammer will impersonate the profile of the chosen middleman. Note: There is no such thing as a steam or valve admin, "They are called valve employees and they will never take part in a trade or add you ever". So if someone says this BS know that its a scammer. 2. Paypal / Steam wallet code Scam A very common method amongst scammers. The scammer will try to convince his victim that he will overpay for his item, in steam wallet codes or via PayPal. The following scenarios could occur: The victim doesn´t receive a working steam wallet code The victim goes first and never receives the money via PayPal The scammer goes first via PayPal but can charge the money back after he received the item The Scammer will impersonate a high tier and trusted trader and try to get your Item saying they will pay later. - So make sure to check who you are trading with all the time. Needlessly to say its a very unsafe method to cash out, never trade for codes of any kind, or PayPal money. Only safe way to cash out that I feel is to use marketplace.tf There is a guide for PayPal scam on the forums go through that before doing any PayPal trades if you are unsure what to do. 3. Impersonators A very common scam amongst the CSGO and TF2 community. The scammer, pretending to be a big trader, will add you and tell you that he is interested in buying your items and will give you links to the real person's profile. Keep in mind No big traders will ever add you for any of your items (Cases are very rare). Simple way to know if the guy who added you is legit or not is by checking their steam inventory, If its set to private or if you see "My inventory Link" written on their profile then be 100% sure its a scammer, anything they say to justify the reason for having inventory private or another inventory link on their profile is bullshit. 4. Youtuber Scam The scammer pretends to be a famous YouTuber who apparently needs your item for a video. Needlessly to say, he won't return it. No famous YouTuber will ever ask you for any of your skins. Keep that in mind. This is just another form of Impersonating scam Fairly simple and well-known. No matter who asks you, if it´s (seemingly) a Youtuber/streamer or even if it is a close friend - DO NOT GIVE AWAY YOUR ITEMS. This person could be an impersonator and even if you made sure that it is the actual person, this very person could always be greedy, or maybe just need the money. Anyway, it´s never a good idea to give away your skins for free, and if you actually want to borrow an item to a friend, make sure its someone to trust and at your own risk. I´ve heard of multiple people who got scammed by their "friends" over some point. 5. OP SKINS bot scam This needs no special introduction or anything, Its the most common type of scam out there. The scammer adds the user and says he is willing to buy their item but before they buy they want to make sure if the item is marketable on OPSKINS and asks the victim to list their item in OPSKINS and convince them to do it. While the victim is doing this the scammer sends a trade offer from their alt account named "OPSKINS Bot 5" or something similar tricking the user into believing that the trade offer actually came from the OP SKINS website. 6. Fake Gamble Sites This scam is a fairly new one. The scammer randomly adds his victim (usually through steam groups) and tells him he is the owner, moderator or co-owner of a new gambling site. Since he is apparently not allowed to play on there himself, he´ll promise his victim to let him win on the site in exchange for a profit participation. Since this site can mostly be manipulated by the scammer himself he´ll choose a winner for the next draw/round and tell his victim the name to proof that he can actually make anyone win. Once the victim deposits his skins on the site, they are either gone, or cant be withdrawn. 7. Phishing links A very common method to spread a virus is via misleading links. In most cases, they look like links from popular websites (e.g. imgur, steam, youtube etc.) but differ in only 1 letter, Like the o can be a 0 in the link etc.Do not click any links from someone who you do not know in person, it can steal your login data and send it to them. 8. Quick Switching One of the oldest scamming methods is called "Quickswitching". Back in the days where the mobile authenticator wasn´t a thing and many people disabled the email confirmation step, the scammer invited his victim to a trade and put in the desired item. A few seconds before the victim agrees to the trade, he exchanges the desired item for a similar looking, but different quality one. If done quickly, the victim only had a very slight time window to react. Luckily this trade doesn't work anymore since everyone has Steam guard confirmation step enabled. Yet there are some people who do not notice it and still get scammed. 9. Teamspeak Scam An extended phishing link method. The scammer adds his victim, telling he and his team will take part of a tournament but they need one more player/backoff. As soon as the victim agrees to help out, the scammer sends him the Teamspeak IP, to start "training" a little. As soon as the victim tries to enter the Teamspeak server, a SERVER notification pops up, asking to upgrade to the latest ts3 version. These pop-ups are server notifications with phishing links, do not click on them. If a new Teamspeak version has been released, your Teamspeak client will tell you as soon as it starts, not as soon as you join a server. 10. Email confirmation Link A scam that used to be around a long time ago, when the trading scene just started to grow. The scammer asks his victim to copy paste him the E-mail confirmation/decline link. Although this scam method is - luckily - not around anymore, keep in mind not to give any unnecessary information to strangers. This information will either stay useless or may even harm you or others. 11. Misleading trade offer Scam You get a Trade offer, In the trade offer, the note probably says something like this: "Upon the acceptance of this trade, you will receive $100 via PayPal." There are no items being offered to you. When you accept, there is no cash. and you lose the item The scammer may change his name to "Screw TF2, Quitting TF2" The note would say something like "I'm leaving TF2, here's some free stuff!". Instead of him offering anything, it would show you offering him free stuff! When you accept it, you end up losing items There are more ways for this to happen but hard to explain everything here (you get the idea) NEVER ACCEPT A TRADE OFFER THAT IS EMPTY ON ONE SIDE. If u come across a trade offer like that double and triple check before accepting. How not to get scammed The scammer's goal is simple. To steal your item and to do so he will say a lot of bullshit and blindside you with profit meaning offering more than what an item is valued. Never fall for such cheap tricks The first thing you have to realize while starting to trade is, there will always be people who will harm others in order to make some profit. People like those exist in masses because the internet gives them enough emotional distance to their victim. If you feel uncomfortable while doing a trade, don't do it, there´s no need to. It´s your item, so is it your decision. If someone seems fishy in any way, do not trust him. Having a higher steam level doesn't mean the user can be trusted, Even you can increase your steam level by spending money +rep on the user's profile is easy to fake and should not be trusted. Since all comments can be deleted by the scammer, putting -rep on a profile is pointless. Make sure their PayPal is verified before doing a PayPal trade. Check their recent game playtime. Many scammers use separate alt's for gaming and scamming. NEVER click links to steam profiles given to you by traders. These are often phishing sites and logging into them will result in your steam account being hijacked. Check their Steamrep profile to see if they are a scammer. Also check, to see the creation date of their profile. If their profile was made within the last month or so, be wary https://steamrep.com/ or https://rep.tf/ Go to one of these websites and paste the user's profile URL on the website search and check (This is the easiest way to check if the user is a scammer or not) Another easier way is to use the Steam Rep Checker Chrome extension (My personal Suggestion) https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/steamrep-checker/egnijmkeaaclmednfcjhmhangbfipidf <--- Install this in your google chrome and open their profile on chrome It should look something like this https://gyazo.com/f103119e20d60393e88807cad57cfb08 If the user is a scammer. It auto scans steam rep and pops up a warning. Everything else is said above, but just saying The main things again Never get blinded by profit and always check steam rep of a user you are trading with (if the value of the item is high) Never trade without getting anything in return Well that sums up this guide In short - This is what I did and what I followed and I am living proof for Scrap to Unusual can be done. Set a Goal for trading Do not simply trade without any goals, I had a dream which was to own The BEST Unusual (effect) in the game NEBULA I never traded much in unusual's and I quit unusual trading after I got the unusual's and taunts I Wanted As a legend once said "when you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it" On 23rd March-2017 Just after 1 year of trading, I was able to reach my dream of getting my 1st own Nebula Unusual. https://backpack.tf/item/4747269531 Nebula Phononaut But I did not stop there I wanted to own an even better hat ( The Universal Translator ) 4 months after getting the phononaut I was able to get my hands on Strange Nebula Universal Translator https://backpack.tf/item/4800061296 (RIP now) 10$ is all I spent in TF2 and I have cashed out over 1000's of $ in the past. 5$ to buy my 1st 2 keys and My backpack on March 12 - 2016 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198078552523?time=1457769600 Started off with 2 keys bought from the steam market 5$ to buy my 1st 4 mvm tickets! My Backpack on 27-4-2016 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198078552523?time=1461715200 Got an 8 Key Fab from mvm sold for 6 keys.These were my initial Investment in Trading My Backpack on 26-1-2018 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198078552523?time=1516924800 and you all know what happened on 27th Jan 2018 I started over again on 12-2-2018 with 100 keys from friends https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198078552523?time=1518393600 My backpack today http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198078552523 Not trading much these days and I plan on starting again soon. "Hope my way of trading was inspiring, For me to achieve this much in from just 2 keys is actually a big deal" Also, I hope you found some new websites here from the ones listed above. If you wanna get in touch with me Feel free to add me on steam (comment before adding) http://steamcommunity.com/id/Zmok3/ or PM me on discord SmokeY#2955 There might be a lot of things that are not mentioned and there might be some sites or things I must have forgotten. Also, I am sure there will be a lot of typos if you spot anything do let me know Thank you for reading and finally, any criticism appreciated! - SmokeY

Hello, today I am going to make an unusual tier list based on the price ranges according to the unusual effect pricelist. I will leave out unusual taunts effects due to them being crashed and so common and also not fiting well with other hat effects. Also, I will leave out weapon unusuals since they do not fit well what so ever. Feel Free to commet! Low Tier Price Range: 0 keys - 40+ keys Nuts and Bolts Aces High Dead Presidents Orbiting Planets Steaming Bubbliung Smoking Massed Flies Kill-a-Watt Overclocked Orbiting Fire Terror-Watt Miami Nights Green Confetti Stormy Storm Purple Confetti Blizzardy Storm TF Logo Neutron Star Circling Peace Sign Cloud 9 Power Surge StarStorm Slumber Electrostatic StarStorm Insomnia Searing Plasma Ancient Codex Galactic Codex Mid Tier Price Range: 40+ keys - 80+ keys Disco Beat Down Eerie Orbiting Fire Tesla Coil Molten Mallard Vivid Plasma It's a Puzzle to Me Flaming Lantern Ancient Eldritch Phosphorous It's a Mystery to Everyone Haunted Ghosts Stare From Beyond Cauldron Bubbles Eldritch Flame Electric Hat Protector Sulphurous Haunted Phantasm Jr. Circling Heart The Ooze Ghastly Ghosts Jr. Nether Trail Magnetic Hat Protector Green Black Hole Amaranthine Morning Glory Time Warp High Tier 80+ keys - 120+ keys Subatomic Death at Dusk Frostbite Ether Trail Green Energy Voltaic Hat Protector Death by Disco Something Burning This Way Comes Purple Energy Atomic DemonFlame Roboactive God Tier 120+ keys - 840+ keys Chiropetera Venenata AntiFreeze Misty Skull Hellfire Stormy 13th Hour Knifestorm Poisoned Shadows Cloudy Moon Bonzo The All-Gnawing Darkblaze Sunbeams Abduction Arcana Harvest Moon Scorching Flames It's A Secret To Everybody Spellbound Burning Flames Nebula

Today I realized that this little scrotum ball (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198829846546) scammed me out of 59 keys and an Eldritch Prehistoric Pullover. I'm a dumbass for trusting this testicle of a maniac. He only had 2 rep when I added him. Man I don't know how I trusted him. 8 months of hard work, gone with the wind. Clark Gable isn't here to save the day, unfortunately. I reported him on bp.tf, which is the most I could do. Don't EVER act impulsively. "Oh yeah this guy's got just a bit of rep but I REALLY feel like he's honest. I can just FEEL it. (*Gives items after a few minutes of brief research and thought*)" That's essentially what I did. Don't let your emotions override your reasonable faculties . Months and even years of work can disappear in an instant. Even if someone has some rep, they can easily acquire it through buying keys from rich people and getting rep. Make sure the person you make a cash trade with has either massive rep (20 minimum, 30+ recommended) and/or is a community leader who you might see often on servers. Make sure they also have a substantial backpack. Also, ONLY trade with people with rep. It doesn't matter if they go first. They can CHARGEBACK!!! It's quite lamentable, really. When I realized that I had been scammed I shed a few tears. I'm a kid, so I don't have very many means of making money. Those $221 I was supposed to get really meant a lot. But life goes on. Don't get scammed, guys.

What are some good looking unusual combos?

I like Guiding, Before reading this I recommend you read the Full Unusual Suggestions Guide https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/6033-rules-for-unusual-price-suggestions/ It's not uncommon to see a suggestion comment asking you to look for a Mini - So what exactly is a Mini? To put it really simply a mini is a sale/series of sales to show what an item is worth now How does a Mini come about? Here comes an example; as of writing this guide I'm trying to price the 'It's a mystery to everyone Hellmet' As with all suggestions you should find all the sales. Let's suppose you find a valid sale and it was a 1:1 (obviously this doesn't always occur but for the sake of this guide I'll keep it simple) There's now 2 ways to go about the sale, either it needs a mini or it doesn't. When will I need a Mini? (Way #1) One sale on the Hellmet is - https://backpack.tf/item/4795994665 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198250066834#!/compare/1520812800/1521244800 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198192602363#!/compare/1521158400/1521244800 The Hellmet was in a 1:1 with a Green Energy Ol' Snaggletooth Now we check if the Snaggletooth is in-date or not and it isn't. The last suggestion was done by The Mighty Bob about 1 Year ago - - If it was updated over 3 Months ago then it needs a mini - If it was updated under 3 Months ago then it doesn't need a mini What if it doesn't need a Mini? (Way #2) There's another sale on the Hellmet - https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198177059485#!/compare/1525046400/1525132800 Here it sold for a Cool Carpet Bomber Stickybomb Launcher (Minimal Wear) in a 1:1 The stickybomb launcher was updated 2 Months ago - Which means it doesn't need a mini and you can take the current price (36 in this case). If the suggestion has a range then take the middle value - You'd take 21 Keys for the Big Chief and 13 Keys for the Baker Boy (The mid-point is 12.5 Keys but this gets rounded to 13 Keys) "Right so I know I need a mini but How do I produce a Mini?" There are primarily 2 Ways of doing this; Way #1 - *This way is preferred amongst moderators* Make a complete suggestion for the hat you need the Mini on. Remember I said earlier I needed a Mini for the Snaggletooth? Well I'd make a Full Suggestion on the Snaggletooth so you would update 2 (or more) hats and get more Contributor Points! Why is this better? - It helps you to be more accurate and - You get more hats updated - Use sales up to 3 Months Old Way #2 - Find 1/2 Sales Different example to the Hellmet here, I'm pricing the 'Death by Disco Prehistoric Pullover' - https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5b06e6b7cf6c753b2d1ef08e This has a sale for a Searing Plasma Hong Kong Cone which needed a Mini. However the Cone had a LOT of sales and the majority needed further Minis so I chose to find a couple sales that represent the market. Why is this better? - Helps save time and - Reduces the effort if a lot of further minis are needed Why is this not as good as Way #1? - If another suggester makes a full suggestion you might have to resuggest (because they've found ALL the sales) and - Not as accurate - Use sales up to 4 Months old How should I reference Minis? This is down to personal preference, you could add a line like - You could put this underneath the sale or at the bottom of the suggestion. You can just leave it, mods will check if it needs a mini or not. "Help I can't make a Mini"? If you can't find any sales then you could use the Original sale to price the one you're trying to mini. If you really need the Mini then try using Unsolds beneath backpack.tf price Check places like Marketplace.tf where there might be sales that you may have missed Or you could use the current price, even if the price was updated <1 Year ago you could still use it, it's been done before but I wouldn't recommend it. Especially if it's >1 Year outdated (the price may have changed a lot since then) Hopefully that helps, if you have any questions still then add me on: Steam - https://steamcommunity.com/id/EazyPeazySqueezyLemonsTrader/ Discord - Lemons#6311 Backpack.tf Discord Link - https://discord.gg/f5VS7cr Solely Suggestion Help Discord - https://discord.gg/6qw8HwC Or contact me here, hopefully this helps. Good luck with suggestions!

Hello, new to this place but I am looking to know how to get into profitable and efficient trading, as of now I only have around 15.66 ref in my backpack. I've now understand the economics of TF2 and It's item types so you may skip that out.

Yeah baby let's do this. It's also a get rich quick scheme 3rd place gets 3 keys 2nd place gets 5 keys 1st place gets 7 keys because of the way this is done by Uefa you have to re-enter before every new round, but you have 2 weeks or so between the draw and the next round Right team wins = 2 points Right aggregrate score = 1 point. If you think a team wins after pens or on away goals, put in 1-1, team A proceeds to next round. Winner = right 5 bonus points, you can ONLY enter this before the RO16 Juve-Spurs 3-3 Juve go through on aggregrate Basel-City 2-6 Porto-Liverpool 4-2 Sevilla-ManU 3-2 Madrid-PSG 4-4 Madrid go through Shakhtar-Roma 3-1 Bayern-Besiktas 3-2 COME TO BESIKTAS BAM BAM BAM Chelsea-Barca 2-4 Juve, City, Porto, Madrid, Bayern and Barca to proceed to qf

So seeing as the Blue Moon cosmetic series has come out, it's time to dish out a quick list of things you should do when a crate comes out. This is more like a rapid-fire advice chain instead of a full-blown guide. Referring to the prices below, we can identify the peak of the price of the crate, being at $2.89 (Although I've seen it reach upwards to $3.20 before) and is now at its incredibly rapid decrease (As of 10:00PM CST it is now hovering around $1.00.) Now for the meat of it. SELLING: Sell early, sell fast, sell when you see prices drop instead of rise. Sell to buy orders if the price is rapidly decreasing below your sell order Keep an eye on when demand reaches its peak, min-maxing your profit. BUYING: Set up a buy order, at the price you are willing to pay at. Whether it is $0.03 or $0.50, the price of the new crate will eventually catch up to your order, so wait it out. It's never too early to sell the one crate you have if you're waiting to buy 19 more for a mass unboxing! Of course, this isn't all there is to it. Once the initial buys go over, the price will hover around its lower prices for a while until it settles at its last 0.03$ tag, becoming a literal penny stock. This means you won't be able to sell for more than scrap at best. If you missed your opportunity to sell the crate when you could, there will be more in the future with each update bringing more and more cosmetics to unbox.

Idk what happened but for the latest days I havent been able to list my marketplace items for sale on backpack.tf. And I dont know how to get to the real bug report page.

Hello dear traders, Here I'll teach you the best way to find all the unusuals weapons listed on backpack.tf! Why? - When Valve fixed the unusual weapons (with the war paint) to decorated weapons quality in the last update, backpack.tf can't determine If a weapon have the unusual quality or no, they are tagged as "decorated weapon" except some exception. It's why when you search for an unusual weapon you can't see all the listings. - And It's not that simple to choose the best setting. That change affected mostly the war paint skin. Preview; Compare these both way to search an unusual weapon by the Classified Listings: Simple Search: https://backpack.tf/classifieds?slot=primary&class=heavy&quality=5 Advanced Search: https://backpack.tf/classifieds?slot=primary&class=heavy&particle=701%2C704%2C703%2C702 First step: Go to Classifieds Listing Second step: Choose the best setting for you For this guide, I want to found the lowest rocket launcher unusual aviable (any effect, any wear) and compare it to the others. To start, never choose the unusual quality when you are searching an unusual weapons, like I said, "backpack.tf can't determine If a weapon have the unusual qualityor no". Even if there is some exception. The best way is to choose all effects of unusual weapon (Cool, Hot, Isotope and Orb Energy). If you want only a rocket launcher with Isotope effect, you just have to choose it, not obliged to search for all effect. And to finish; Never type the name of the weapon you want as unusual, exemple: Rocket launcher. If you want to found: Unusual Rocket launcher, Black box: --------------------------------Set: Primary; Soldier. Unusual Minigun, Tomislav, Brass Beast: -------------------------Set: Primary; Heavy Unusual Flame Thrower: ---------------------------------------------------Set: Primary; Pyro Unusual Scattergun, Soda Popper: -----------------------------------Set: Primary; Scout Unusual Grenade Launcher, Iron Bomber, Loose Cannon: Set: Primary; Demoman Unusual Sniper Rifle, Bazaar Bargain -------------------------------Set: Primary; Sniper Unusual Crusader's Crossbow -----------------------------------------Set: Primary; Medic Unusual Pistol, SMG, Shotgun ------------------------------------------Set: Seconday Unusual Wrench, Jag: -------------------------------------------------------Set: Melee; Engineer Ect... Now you know the best way to don't miss listing for a unusual weapon =) Enjoy!

Guys I have that problem: When I want to get up bot(for my profile) and I program every think good (steam login, password and steam guard code) but when I want to type my Bp.tf token, It doesn't work... Please Help.

Work in progress. (DO NOT USE YET) IMPORTANT - This is not a list from highest to lowest tier effect, it is a list to show how easy an effect sells for it's price (best value for money). There are always exceptions as this is a general list so please do not use this as a Bible. Key tips to figure out how easy an item is to sell: The higher the buy orders on backpack.tf in comparison to its price often will mean the easier it is to sell. If an item is unsold for a long time (check by clicking on a sell order where it says “bumped x minutes ago) it may lead to difficulty selling. Value an item at its lowest seller unless it's a troll listing/sold already etc. Watch out for Price suggestions (bottom of stats page of an unusual) Duped unusuals sell worse than clean ones (not by too much unless high tier) but dupes don't really matter with low tier unusuals. Compare to other effects on the same hat to see if it seems out of place. Value unusual taunts/weapons at buy order price if you are new to trading. If you like the unusual itself, chances are someone else does as well. Very Easy to Sell Effects: Disco Beat Down Frostbite Miami Nights Blizzardy Storm Nebula Spellbound Poisoned Shadows Arcana Chiropetra Venenata Bonzo-the-all-gnawing Darkblaze Stormy 13th Hour Knifestorm Purple Energy Green Energy Roboactive Anti-Freeze Stormy Storm Easy to Sell Effects: Scorching Flames Burning Flames Cloud 9 Sunbeams Terror-Watt Kill-A-Watt It's a Secret to Everyone Smoking Steaming Decently selling Effects: Orbiting Fire Misty Skull Death at Dusk Morning Glory Vivid Plasma Sulphurous Phosphorous Searing Plasma Tesla Coil Hard to Sell Effects: Circling TF Logo Neutron Star Starstorm Insomnia Starstorm Slumber Haunted Ghosts Circling Heart Circling Peace Sign Aces High Bubbling Orbiting Planets Purple Confetti Green Confetti Dead Presidents Cauldron Bubbles Flaming Lantern Molten Mallard Power Surge Good Luck Selling These: Eerie Orbiting Fire Electrostatic Nuts n Bolts Memory Leak Overclocked Massed Flies

Hi guys! Since there are so many scammers/scammer alts/ Emcee Alts adding people trying to scam them of their unusuals(I get like once daily), what have you guys did to take the living piss out of these wannabes? I'll list a few here. 1) privatized my steam inventory and took the piss off them when they asked me to trade, said they should know why they added me to trade. 2) pretended to go along with the middleman and put in a name tagged/desc tagged weapon to them saying 'learn to trade, ya scammer' 3)insisted they show me the item in the inventory. Would love to hear more roasting tactics

Hi Guys, I've recently heard about a new unusual trade server opening soon. This is the release from the owner:) "Friday afternoon or tommorow night for gmt time, we will be hosting some events for our grand opening of "The Unusual Trading Camp" Unusual Trade Server. it's a brand NEW one where we provide all types of things including RTD,Store,BHOP etc. we are going to be hosting some fun events on the server where everyone has a 50/50 at winning some prizes. (including store points and vip. We hope and look forward seeing you all here. please don't be there for just the giveaways! Here is some showcases of the server from an http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH_mYkXhByA&lc=z22acbaievblw11faacdp43ahtbhc4f2ijlicxpr5chw03c010c You can also purchase vip if requested. vip gives you access to different rooms which members have 0 acces at. Including the vip room where vips can only access and including skybox, grappling hook,jetpack and much more to come! this server may have some things not uploaded Yet, but we will get new things as quick as we can Hope to see you there! " Official Steam group http://steamcommunity.com/groups/TheUnusualTradingCamp Official rules list as follows: 1:You must not be banned on steamrep 2:Scammers are forbidden to join 3: if there are any problems please inform an admin or me 4.: No spamming 5: No pornography, you are allowed to post screenshots for purposes of trading ONLY 6:You must advertise above a bills+earbud (1.7 key) 7:No scamming,sharking or you will be perm banned from joining the discord,steam 8. have fun 9.Any more questions? Contact owner or admin IP provided by owner is 94.23.68.246:27600

Hi there I need help I’m creating a price suggestion but I can’t enter it because my backpack value ain’t high enough. this is the unusual hat and I was gonna suggest a price of roughly 61 keys pure, is that a fair price? and how do I make the suggestion because of my backpack? https://backpack.tf/stats/Unusual/Commando Elite/Tradable/Craftable/6

unusualifer unboxed hi just wanna share something i unboxed unusualifier on 4th nov 2017 i applied it on taunt that i trade with some dudes in bp,tf so my question is after i applied that unusualifier on the taunt i get. isit still valuate as im the one unboxed it or not? heres the proof the day i trade burstchester taunt https://imgur.com/a/JuaF1 after i applied the unusulifier https://imgur.com/a/JuaF1 just wanna as community opinion about this since on of bp.tf remove my listing due i state i unboxed the unusual taunt. https://backpack.tf/notifications/thread/view/5a1859d2cf6c756245770689. moderater carnage remove my listing

I really like how backpack.tf looks right now! Not really sure what you guys changed? But it's hella clean! <3 he showstopper effect too and some other things! Like some pictures of hats I think as well as the font on listings? (Not sure bout this one) Anyways, in general its really nice! Edit: Actually, on all unusual taunt effects!

Hi guys, it appears that there has been zero action till now on reporting Jhejh poT, one of the reputably most infamous sharkers on the market. After investigation with a fellow trader, who shall remain unnamed at this point in time, we have uncovered some of his dastardly deeds. Now, I understand that unpriced unusuals are quite subjected to whether a person likes it or not, but taking advantage of fresh unboxers & offering unpriced hats that are obviously worth way less is a terrible terrible thing to do. What looks like 145 in mixed for burning field practice(priced in june/july at 250 keys ffs, trade done in august.) https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198120467518#!/compare/1502236800/1502323200 An attempted misrepresentation of a roboactive burning bandanna being worth 190 keys(attached is a list of effects with spellbound being 120 only) https://backpack.tf/unusual/Burning%20Bandana This here is also a highly suspicious trading day. Checking the eotl key's, even giving him the benefit of the doubt of not knowing the people were scammers..... Check out the people gifting the keys: cirese1/cirese2/cipsuri4/cipsuri3 Kinda massive red flag there. https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198120467518#!/compare/1508457600/1508630400 https://backpack.tf/item/6230378435 We strongly implore the administrators/moderators to take action on him.

Unusual taunts already were unwanted. Now this?? Good job valve, the taunts will be pretty mich worthless, good thing Im looking to buy one then! Any thought on this?

I didn't want to make this post, but after seeing the inflation of key prices I decided that I had to discuss this to get it off my chest. Over the past few years since I started playing TF2, on an old account whose password I forgot and four years later re-acquired, I've recently gotten back into playing and trading into TF2. Of course, I'm one of those guys who only recently started using marketplace.tf and gets by. Back then, I was a very poor person and was very gullible. Didn't know the basics of trading or making profit, pure and simple. Enough of me, let's get back into what's relevant. What I've noticed with key prices is that when they first started rising, bots were being set to sell at a higher price and buy at a lower price than the current. An example is now, we have bots selling at 34 ref (current key price is around 32 refined) and buying at lower prices than the current flow. (Look in the current key buy offers. You'll see what I mean.) This leads to people automatically assuming that the bot's prices are automatically the correct price, and a normal person would want to go with that flow because it makes sense; keys are apparently going up according to the bots. But that wasn't really the case until people actually started listening to bots because of one prime reason: they were the ONLY ones who could instantly accept and sell someone an item immediately without any wait. This, of course, led to keys inflating in price due to people requiring more and more keys to either trade or fund their unusual gambling addiction, leading to the mess of a key price we have today. These key prices not only affect traders, but also affect the community itself. Before I continue on, I will say this: The TF2 community is NOT dying, nor do I have or play OW. This is my opinion personally, you can feel free to disagree with me on it. Free to Plays, also abbreviated as F2Ps, are one of the most hated types of players on the game, mainly due to many of them being unable to understand how to play the game, or how to understand certain game mechanics. These, however, are possible future premium players, meaning they can trade and make profit when they spend $5.00 or more in something like the Mann Co. Store. However, the key prices now have made the trading part of TF2 look, dare I say in my own words, "disgustingly unattractive". Back in 2012, or whenever key prices were around 2 refined each, new players could easily make profit even with free to play accounts. All it would require was some patience and the luck to do something like, for example, craft a Maul or Three Rune Blade. You'd be up and running in no time if you could find a buyer for either. Hell, even with a lot of patience, you could get a single key if you waited for, or acquired through other means such as gifts or free items, 36 craft weapons. 2 x 3 = 6, equaling to 1 rec. 6 x 3 = 18, meaning 3 rec would be equal to, of course, one refined metal. Double that again, you have 36 weapons turned into 2 pieces of refined metal, from which you could buy a key with, and then wait double that time to acquire two keys for a premium upgrade gift. Nowadays, key prices are so massive that new players are finding the trading very unattractive to do, as the current state the key prices are in right now as I type this are, again, inflated. Now, to even get ONE key, you would need to obtain, on average, a whopping 582 - 588 weapons to garner enough refined for one key. This is just an estimate, as key prices are set to around 32 refined at the time writing and I'm using 32.33 - 32.66 refined as a placeholder as I'm sure prices will change very soon. Now imagine DOUBLE that, trying to get 1164 - 1176 weapons to garner enough weapons to get the refined required to get TWO keys, which is about the price of a premium upgrade gift. I will also note mentioning, that a free to play could bypass this if they were lucky with their crafts and managed to get multiple three rune blades or mauls, which, even then, is a staggering 7.14% chance to acquire a Three Rune Blade and, akin to the three rune, a 7.14% chance to craft the Maul. This data was taken by counting all of the craftable pyro and scout melees, and dividing them into percentages. For example, there are around 14 craftable pyro melees, and if we divide 1 / 14, that's only a 7.14% chance to craft only ONE Maul. Basically, you're screwed unless you either pay REAL money to trade, or you wait all that time to get those weapons and obtain those keys. Nobody's gonna do that. And I can already hear the argument of "if they wanna trade, they should just spend real money on the game!" And to that, I reply that they need real incentive to spend money on the game. There's a lot of players who wish to see what the game is like before they start investing their own money into it. And once they see that the game is just a load of people buying and selling $40 hats and rare weapons, they'll lose the will to continue playing, thereby rendering them a lost possible trader, which eats away at the community bit by bit. And even if they do begin to spend real money on the game, as I can guarantee that some of you will predict, one minor slip up will cost them plenty of currency that could've been used to make profit, and it will destroy their willpower to continue trading, hence why we see so many abandoned TF2 backpacks and people who have cashed out of TF2 itself and moved onto other games. Once again, this is my own personal opinion, and by no means do I mean to attack or slander anyone. Here's a TL;DR for those who didn't bother to sit through: New players are driven away by key inflation. It's too difficult to begin trading in TF2, and harms the community. If you bothered to sit through the entire explanation, congratulations! You've sat through the most boring rant you'll see to date, but also may have learned a thing or two, though I doubt that. I look forward to your responses.